Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?
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@dap1234567890 said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
The change is for the LS captains from the LS collections only and not from the v team captains found in the TA programs.
Ohh well [censored] that's stupid. Glad I spent the time to pxp them .
Where do you find those captains.
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@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@dap1234567890 said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
The change is for the LS captains from the LS collections only and not from the v team captains found in the TA programs.
Ohh well [censored] that's stupid. Glad I spent the time to pxp them .
Where do you find those captains.
The live series collections, so for the Phillies it would be the 90 Lee that would have had the slight change to his requirements for tiers.
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Ok I got it. I have him . I see no difference . So I don't know.
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The update messed up the egg hunt program so now I'm missing those players from my team
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Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
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@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
I really think they thought that captains would somehow level things out with boosted Charisma, Headliners, WBC, etc. I do think they thought this would be an element that caused more diverse lineups. It just seems that they didn't realize how far away a boosted LS theme team would be from the average team anyone could field after playing the game for a few hours.
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I’ve played too many Ranked games online…and the only team I’ve seen with Live Series captain and LS cards was MY OWN.
I messed around with it with both the Rockies and Royals. The boost to Contact from Helton or Gordon is kinda fun.
And I’ve loaded my pitching with Cubs and Reds. Reds to boost Dibble and Hunter Greene LS…and Cubs to boost Kerry Wood who becomes a monster with the boost.
I’ve probably seen 125 lineups in Ranked. And I’ve never seen anyone else do it.
They don’t need to when you can get 97 Freddie Freeman for 12k or 99 Lindor for 30k.
The Captain boost is small and only for certain ratings…and some boosts are only against a L or R pitcher. Yeah…it’s really fun to use a boost vs R and then see a Lefty when you’re loading into the game.
The boosts are also too limited for pitchers. Yeah…the H/9, K/9, and Clutch boosts are nice when you use guys like Wood, Dibble, or even Hoffman.
But you’re still going to get screwed with your HR/9 rating…especially when that Live Series card runs into 99 Trout or Murakami or whoever else has a POW over 100!!
All the best pitchers in the Marketplace have HR/9 ratings 88 or above. Many have 99. Funny how Power can go above 99 but apparently HR/9 can’t.
Idk man…these dudes created the game, I thought they would have a better understanding of why/how people use the cards, especially online. The fact they thought more people would use the Live series captains and cards because of these boosts sort of makes me think they actually don’t have a clue.
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@Honor_The_Game44_PSN said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
I really think they thought that captains would somehow level things out with boosted Charisma, Headliners, WBC, etc. I do think they thought this would be an element that caused more diverse lineups. It just seems that they didn't realize how far away a boosted LS theme team would be from the average team anyone could field after playing the game for a few hours.
Yeah…idk what to think about the fact they are confused about this. It’s sort of embarrassing tbh.
Even with the huge boosts to Contact you get from a Captain like Helton or Gordon, most of the LS cards are completely outclassed by even the mid-tier WBC cards. Heck, they are outclassed by many of the free cards.
It also appears the SDS “solution” to everything is to just keep increasing ratings and juicing more cards.
Personally, I think that ruins the game. I’ve played Online ranked games with the regular teams and I’ve played DD. The game plays so much more like BASEBALL with the regular teams and without all the juiced stats. Great players are great…good players are good…and solid everyday players can still have a big game or make plays.
DD plays more like HR derby or slow pitch softball. I guess that’s the direction they are heading.
I still think a capped mode would be awesome. Sure…some people will NEVER play it. Although I bet if you put some decent reward cards or lock ins in that mode, they’d swallow their pride and try to field a team given a salary cap.
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I can give them credit for trying to update and upgrade the captains, but I'm still not really sold on it. You can field a much better team without trying to add certain LS players. It would be a lot better if any cards from that team got boosted, but being limited to such a small pool of players isn't close to worth it. Im thinking at some point there will be Captains added that boost any player from that team. If I could add all usable cards from my favorite team... I would try to use a Red Sox theme team for sure.
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NONE of the Captains should have a negative effect. I realize the Live Series captains don’t, but some of the others do. That needs to go. If you’re playing a Captain, you’re probably using lesser cards and now you have to deal with a NEGATIVE effect. Makes no sense.
Instead of having the 3 “levels” of boosts to the Captain boosts…I think a sliding scale would be better. So if you start with 3 Live Series to get the boost…you should get a small boost with each one you add. Not have to meet a certain criteria.
As you add more cards that qualify to your lineup, the boost stacks a little more. That would give everyone more freedom to choose the cards they want to use, instead of being forced to use more than you want to get the maximum boost.
The implementation isn’t bad for the first year…but the fact is, these cards and boosts are not going to be used much when you drop 99s from day 1. And juice up a bunch of other easily attainable cards. Everyone who plays online is so obsessed with their record, they aren’t going to use anything but the best lineup possible. It’s kind of sad, tbh.
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This may be an unpopular opinion but I actually enjoy the captains. I play exclusively offline though so I can see the online players argument because no bronze would ever be worth it in that format. But, for grinding TA I actually enjoyed using a full royals squad which I absolutely never thought I’d say…
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@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
This right here. Lets all agree it was just a fail on SDS part.
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No, I’m not using the live series captains or doing a theme team. I know SDS said they wanted people to play with them…If that’s the case then make them make all the players they boost to a 97+…It’s that simple. Otherwise they will continue to gather dust.
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@Teeej_1011_PSN said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
This may be an unpopular opinion but I actually enjoy the captains. I play exclusively offline though so I can see the online players argument because no bronze would ever be worth it in that format. But, for grinding TA I actually enjoyed using a full royals squad which I absolutely never thought I’d say…
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy them. And I'll even use them Online, despite being at a disadvantage. But that does get old after awhile.
I used the Rockies and Royals hitters. Some aren't bad with the boost to Contact. But I still had to slap the ball around and hope my opponent wasn't a good hitter, because I wasn't going to hit any bombs with the Royals.
Rockies had one or two Power threats, but in your average game of Ranked seasons, that means I probably have 7 LESS long ball threats then my opponent with 7 WBC cards and 2 Charisma.
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I really like the idea of the captains, but like others have said, the boosts just aren’t worth it for the few players it’ll actually help. No offense, but +20 power vs. L and R for a guy with a base 35 power isn’t worth it.
Also, I’ve found that a lot of the team captains boost the worst side of the ball. Basically, if the live captain gives a boost to the pitchers, the pitchers on the live squad are practically trash even with the boost. Vice verse about a hitting live captain.
That said, if they ran some events that required live team sets, they’d get used a lot more.
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I think, SDS should do some drastic stuff with the captains, otherwise a great idea is off to the trash bin …
My suggestions:- Give every captain at least a 95 (increase attributes)
- Make the rewards better. E.g. the nationals boost is pretty awesome, but the players are awful, so the boost still makes the Nationals not good
- Inrease more attributes. E.g. Judge is such a bad fielder, he should boost himself much better
