Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?
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@Honor_The_Game44_PSN said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I really, really appreciate SDS paying attention to how the community was utilizing captains and making an adjustment so early in the year, but I am not convinced it will really make much difference. I am curious if you all think this will cause you to use more captains?
If you didn't know, they are reducing the number of required players by one at each tier after Update 3 that rolled out this morning. https://theshow.com/news/game23-update-3/
I really like the captains idea, but still just feel like it requires too much for a significant benefit. I really haven't looked at the requirements in a few weeks now, but when the game launched I felt like I would really need to be at the highest tier for it to really pay off. If I remember correctly, for LS captains to reach tier 3 it was 11 hitters from the same team. So, now that will still require 10 hitters. If I were to use the Rangers, which I don't think is the worst option, it would require me to play four golds, one silver and five bronze to reach the requirement.
As much as I love the idea, I just think it easier to make my own team however I want with the countless other cards available. I do think that supercharged and captains could do a lot for LS and I think the execution of supercharged has been much more consistent this year, but the captains thing just seems to be a bit out of touch. Thoughts?
the players getting boosted can be on your bench... only the captain needs to be in the lineup.
I personally feel like the Live Series captains are there to make using the LS cards worthwhile but in all honesty I'd prefer to just use the Captain from Team Affinity since it boost Live Series, Flashbacks and Legends cards from that team.
At the end of the day it will be interesting to see what they do with Captains in Set 2 and beyond since the Captains from Team Affinity 1 are only (at this moment) available for Seasons 1 & 2.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I don't know that they will ever make the live series captains useful. Alex Lange is nice in BR but no one is putting live series Tigers cards in their pitching rotation period. SDS and everybody that wants live series cards to be useful just needs to give it up. It's not happening. The team affinity captains are good in theory but there just isn't enough decent cards for each team to make that work right now.
And by the time there are enough cards to make a good theme team most those cards will have expired for online play.
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@mjfc_363_PSN said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I wish captain boosts would work for all cards for said team and not just live series. That’s really my only complaint. I think it’s been a GREAT addition to the game!!! Much needed.
You can unlock Captains for the whole team via Team Affinity, not sure what they do going forward after the Set 1 cards though but I imagine Season 2 and beyond will still give us Captain cards to unlock in future Team Affinity programs.
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Also, all the pxp missions kinda make it hard to have a lineup full of players you want, let alone a theme team.
I would love to just use astros players, but I have to constantly be using other teams because the team affinity programs are taking forever.
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It’s a bit weird on this game. If you only play offline I could see doing it with your favorite team here and there but that would eventually get boring. Might as well just go play franchise at that point. And online you’d probably be at a huge disadvantage. Maybe they will eventually have events with only full theme teams.
The thing about madden is most people flock to the best theme teams early where a lot of times they are on par with the best teams available. Maybe even better sometimes. Then later in the year when everybody is a 97-99 they fool around with their favorite team if it wasn’t a top one early or they change around their team to use different players.
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I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
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I tried using a LS White Sox team using Konerko as a Captain, and... it didn't go well at all. It's mainly a "user problem", but even if I was good, it wouldn't have mattered much.
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@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
It doesn't change for another 20 minutes or so with the incoming update.
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I thought it said 4am pt this morning .
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@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I thought it said 4am pt this morning .
You might be right... I got the Game Update confused with the Content Update.
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@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
The change is for the LS captains from the LS collections only and not from the v team captains found in the TA programs.
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I reset Xbox and still the same.
Not going to helpe use captains if the update doesn't update the captains lol
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@dap1234567890 said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
The change is for the LS captains from the LS collections only and not from the v team captains found in the TA programs.
Ohh well [censored] that's stupid. Glad I spent the time to pxp them .
Where do you find those captains.
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@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@dap1234567890 said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@FRSTDWN_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
I see no difference with the requirements for players used with captains . I have JT and Lee for my Philies TT and the requirements are the exactly the same.
The change is for the LS captains from the LS collections only and not from the v team captains found in the TA programs.
Ohh well [censored] that's stupid. Glad I spent the time to pxp them .
Where do you find those captains.
The live series collections, so for the Phillies it would be the 90 Lee that would have had the slight change to his requirements for tiers.
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Ok I got it. I have him . I see no difference . So I don't know.
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The update messed up the egg hunt program so now I'm missing those players from my team
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Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
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@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
I really think they thought that captains would somehow level things out with boosted Charisma, Headliners, WBC, etc. I do think they thought this would be an element that caused more diverse lineups. It just seems that they didn't realize how far away a boosted LS theme team would be from the average team anyone could field after playing the game for a few hours.
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I’ve played too many Ranked games online…and the only team I’ve seen with Live Series captain and LS cards was MY OWN.
I messed around with it with both the Rockies and Royals. The boost to Contact from Helton or Gordon is kinda fun.
And I’ve loaded my pitching with Cubs and Reds. Reds to boost Dibble and Hunter Greene LS…and Cubs to boost Kerry Wood who becomes a monster with the boost.
I’ve probably seen 125 lineups in Ranked. And I’ve never seen anyone else do it.
They don’t need to when you can get 97 Freddie Freeman for 12k or 99 Lindor for 30k.
The Captain boost is small and only for certain ratings…and some boosts are only against a L or R pitcher. Yeah…it’s really fun to use a boost vs R and then see a Lefty when you’re loading into the game.
The boosts are also too limited for pitchers. Yeah…the H/9, K/9, and Clutch boosts are nice when you use guys like Wood, Dibble, or even Hoffman.
But you’re still going to get screwed with your HR/9 rating…especially when that Live Series card runs into 99 Trout or Murakami or whoever else has a POW over 100!!
All the best pitchers in the Marketplace have HR/9 ratings 88 or above. Many have 99. Funny how Power can go above 99 but apparently HR/9 can’t.
Idk man…these dudes created the game, I thought they would have a better understanding of why/how people use the cards, especially online. The fact they thought more people would use the Live series captains and cards because of these boosts sort of makes me think they actually don’t have a clue.
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@Honor_The_Game44_PSN said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
@BrikMahorn_XBL said in Will the update to Captains cause you use them more?:
Are the dudes over at SDS this dense?
It's not that no one wants to use the Live Series captains. It's that they don't NEED to with all these easily attainable 97/99s out there.
Even with the boosts, these cards don't come close to matching most of the WBC cards and the Charisma and Awards cards. So...no one uses them online.
Maybe some dudes will use it offline, but almost no one is going to use online. Everyone loads up the same team with the same guys their favorite YouTuber told them to use. It's kinda pathetic and depressing tbh.
I really think they thought that captains would somehow level things out with boosted Charisma, Headliners, WBC, etc. I do think they thought this would be an element that caused more diverse lineups. It just seems that they didn't realize how far away a boosted LS theme team would be from the average team anyone could field after playing the game for a few hours.
Yeah…idk what to think about the fact they are confused about this. It’s sort of embarrassing tbh.
Even with the huge boosts to Contact you get from a Captain like Helton or Gordon, most of the LS cards are completely outclassed by even the mid-tier WBC cards. Heck, they are outclassed by many of the free cards.
It also appears the SDS “solution” to everything is to just keep increasing ratings and juicing more cards.
Personally, I think that ruins the game. I’ve played Online ranked games with the regular teams and I’ve played DD. The game plays so much more like BASEBALL with the regular teams and without all the juiced stats. Great players are great…good players are good…and solid everyday players can still have a big game or make plays.
DD plays more like HR derby or slow pitch softball. I guess that’s the direction they are heading.
I still think a capped mode would be awesome. Sure…some people will NEVER play it. Although I bet if you put some decent reward cards or lock ins in that mode, they’d swallow their pride and try to field a team given a salary cap.
