Always intense program is a scam
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@vipersneak_mlbts said in Always intense program is a scam:
While not a scam, I am not sure how some of you actually believe something in this game is free. There is nothing free in this game.
Ok, but since time is money, that means everything costs something, and if everything costs something, does it even matter? Do I have to have some internal debate about spending money (time) on either watching Netflix or playing mlbts. And then I'm spending money (time) on that internal debate, which doesn't seem prudent.
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@theblindrhino said in Always intense program is a scam:
I seemed to have all the cards before I started it. What is OP on about?
Because you bought them or grinded events.; they weren' available in any program; only through buying the packs (no thanks, of course), and apparently events.
Big Dog ones were already distributed as rewards (hidden, programs) before the BD program.
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@yankblan_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@theblindrhino said in Always intense program is a scam:
I seemed to have all the cards before I started it. What is OP on about?
Because you bought them or grinded events.; they weren' available in any program; only through buying the packs (no thanks, of course), and apparently events.
Big Dog ones were already distributed as rewards (hidden, programs) before the BD program.
In what way does that make the program a "scam" though
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@eatyum_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@yankblan_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@theblindrhino said in Always intense program is a scam:
I seemed to have all the cards before I started it. What is OP on about?
Because you bought them or grinded events.; they weren' available in any program; only through buying the packs (no thanks, of course), and apparently events.
Big Dog ones were already distributed as rewards (hidden, programs) before the BD program.
In what way does that make the program a "scam" though
Yeah scam is harsh, but it almost forces you to buy cards to start. If the 1st pack was at say, 40 pts instead of 70, it would make more sense. Like I posted earlier, you almost have to take a pitcher because of the unbalanced grind of PXP between pitchers and hitters.
The only reason I'm grinding it is for program XP; if it weren't part of it and completely stand alone, I would either not do it or just put it on the back burner until I have time for it.
If you count the Big Dog, this one and both April and May, you have the chance to grind like an idiot or rent the cards, which is a guaranteed loss. I don't remember renting cards in prior years.
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@savefarris_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
“Mom, the free cards they’re giving us aren’t free enough!!”
I get the point you’re making but there’s no reason to talk down to people just because you may not agree with them.
I’d encourage you to remember that time is money. I have a career job and, more importantly, I’m a dad and a husband. I’m not filthy rich (financially) but I make mid 6 figures in salary each year so I’m doing alright. With that said, my personal time is even more valuable because my family is my highest priority yet I have less time to spend with them compared to work.
The point is - when you consider the personal time investment, the cost of those cards that you say are “free” are actually quite expensive. Personally, I’m disappointed in the program as I don’t think the rewards are worth the time investment. I’m not complaining about it … I just won’t spend any time on it.
The more significant issue that’s not being addressed is that SDS seems to be struggling with creating content that’s interesting and replayable - particularly offline. As a result, they feel like they have to give the appearance of new “content” by artificially inflating the requirements to complete some of the programs in an effort to keep players engaged. In the long run, it won’t work because the rewards (so far) haven’t been worthy of the time investment.
Nothing in this game is “free” if you have to spend time doing something to get something.
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@x-supersko-x_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
The problem I have with this line of thinking, while I get the thought process behind it is, it gets quite silly when you think about it.
For example, if I have the next two days off and my coworker says, it's great you will have some free time with this kids, am I going to correct her and say "Well actually, time isn't free, time is money, so it's technically not free time".
I don't want to live like time is money, I don't want to constantly think about that. I certainly evaluate how I spend my time and whether something is worth doing, but I think that mindset of time being money can become quite a toxic thought process
Are you saying there could be instances where a rewarding program is "worth" the time of forgoing family time? I would guess not
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Just rent all the cheap ones. I had a few already, I used Glavine as my SP, Hand, and Wilson out of the pen and I had 6 cards in my lineup. Guys like Juan Pierre or Will Meyers go for about 11k each, so it isn't a huge investment. I had the PXP missions done after a few conquest games.
I don't mind the program, would have liked to have seen a new card, but not gonna complain about all those packs.
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@eatyum_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@x-supersko-x_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
The problem I have with this line of thinking, while I get the thought process behind it is, it gets quite silly when you think about it.
For example, if I have the next two days off and my coworker says, it's great you will have some free time with this kids, am I going to correct her and say "Well actually, time isn't free, time is money, so it's technically not free time".
I don't want to live like time is money, I don't want to constantly think about that. I certainly evaluate how I spend my time and whether something is worth doing, but I think that mindset of time being money can become quite a toxic thought process
Are you saying there could be instances where a rewarding program is "worth" the time of forgoing family time? I would guess not
Fair point.
I’m saying time is valuable. Specific to the comment to which I replied, I said time is money because it was a conversation about “free” cards that could otherwise cost money.
I’m sure there’s a better way to say it than I did in my initial response. I guess my point, generally speaking, is that it’s easy to say someone’s complaining about something because you want to be a smart [censored] in that moment. However, it’s all about perspective.
Time has value. Many people don’t understand what that means so, financially speaking, they don’t do very well for themselves because they waste too much time doing things that take up too much of their time — which reduces its value. But that’s a different conversation.
Specific to family and video games, you’re correct in that I’m not saying a rewarding program in a video game is worth more than spending time with family. However, if someone has a real shitty family life, they might have a different perspective. Personally, it’s not even a choice … I will always choose family over video games — and family over money. I learned the hard way that making tons of money isn’t the only way you support your family. Believe me - lesson learned!
With video games, for me, my point wasn’t about choosing between family and a rewarding program … it’s about choosing to play something else if I don’t feel the time investment is worth it for that program. Since I don’t have as much time as I’d prefer to play video games, the time I do have is valuable so I’m not going to spend it on earning a reward that ends up feeling unrewarding.
Again - it’s easy to make smart assed comments in an anonymous online forum. However, as I said earlier, it’s all about perspective. Time has value. As it relates to the program being discussed, if I had a couple hours that could be used for work or completing the Always Intense program specifically, I’d work because I’d make money and reduce my workload in the future leading to more time with family.
That’s a long winded reply and I’m not sure if it speaks to your points but that’s how I see it.
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@x-supersko-x_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
@eatyum_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@x-supersko-x_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
The problem I have with this line of thinking, while I get the thought process behind it is, it gets quite silly when you think about it.
For example, if I have the next two days off and my coworker says, it's great you will have some free time with this kids, am I going to correct her and say "Well actually, time isn't free, time is money, so it's technically not free time".
I don't want to live like time is money, I don't want to constantly think about that. I certainly evaluate how I spend my time and whether something is worth doing, but I think that mindset of time being money can become quite a toxic thought process
Are you saying there could be instances where a rewarding program is "worth" the time of forgoing family time? I would guess not
Fair point.
I’m saying time is valuable. Specific to the comment to which I replied, I said time is money because it was a conversation about “free” cards that could otherwise cost money.
I’m sure there’s a better way to say it than I did in my initial response. I guess my point, generally speaking, is that it’s easy to say someone’s complaining about something because you want to be a smart [censored] in that moment. However, it’s all about perspective.
Time has value. Many people don’t understand what that means so, financially speaking, they don’t do very well for themselves because they waste too much time doing things that take up too much of their time — which reduces its value. But that’s a different conversation.
Specific to family and video games, you’re correct in that I’m not saying a rewarding program in a video game is worth more than spending time with family. However, if someone has a real shitty family life, they might have a different perspective. Personally, it’s not even a choice … I will always choose family over video games — and family over money. I learned the hard way that making tons of money isn’t the only way you support your family. Believe me - lesson learned!
With video games, for me, my point wasn’t about choosing between family and a rewarding program … it’s about choosing to play something else if I don’t feel the time investment is worth it for that program. Since I don’t have as much time as I’d prefer to play video games, the time I do have is valuable so I’m not going to spend it on earning a reward that ends up feeling unrewarding.
Again - it’s easy to make smart assed comments in an anonymous online forum. However, as I said earlier, it’s all about perspective. Time has value. As it relates to the program being discussed, if I had a couple hours that could be used for work or completing the Always Intense program specifically, I’d work because I’d make money and reduce my workload in the future leading to more time with family.
That’s a long winded reply and I’m not sure if it speaks to your points but that’s how I see it.
I agree with everything you said, but I would argue it's easy and understandable to make a smart (censored) comment and I wouldn't blink in eye or wonder why someone does when the title says that the program is a "scam"
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@eatyum_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@x-supersko-x_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
@eatyum_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@x-supersko-x_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
The problem I have with this line of thinking, while I get the thought process behind it is, it gets quite silly when you think about it.
For example, if I have the next two days off and my coworker says, it's great you will have some free time with this kids, am I going to correct her and say "Well actually, time isn't free, time is money, so it's technically not free time".
I don't want to live like time is money, I don't want to constantly think about that. I certainly evaluate how I spend my time and whether something is worth doing, but I think that mindset of time being money can become quite a toxic thought process
Are you saying there could be instances where a rewarding program is "worth" the time of forgoing family time? I would guess not
Fair point.
I’m saying time is valuable. Specific to the comment to which I replied, I said time is money because it was a conversation about “free” cards that could otherwise cost money.
I’m sure there’s a better way to say it than I did in my initial response. I guess my point, generally speaking, is that it’s easy to say someone’s complaining about something because you want to be a smart [censored] in that moment. However, it’s all about perspective.
Time has value. Many people don’t understand what that means so, financially speaking, they don’t do very well for themselves because they waste too much time doing things that take up too much of their time — which reduces its value. But that’s a different conversation.
Specific to family and video games, you’re correct in that I’m not saying a rewarding program in a video game is worth more than spending time with family. However, if someone has a real shitty family life, they might have a different perspective. Personally, it’s not even a choice … I will always choose family over video games — and family over money. I learned the hard way that making tons of money isn’t the only way you support your family. Believe me - lesson learned!
With video games, for me, my point wasn’t about choosing between family and a rewarding program … it’s about choosing to play something else if I don’t feel the time investment is worth it for that program. Since I don’t have as much time as I’d prefer to play video games, the time I do have is valuable so I’m not going to spend it on earning a reward that ends up feeling unrewarding.
Again - it’s easy to make smart assed comments in an anonymous online forum. However, as I said earlier, it’s all about perspective. Time has value. As it relates to the program being discussed, if I had a couple hours that could be used for work or completing the Always Intense program specifically, I’d work because I’d make money and reduce my workload in the future leading to more time with family.
That’s a long winded reply and I’m not sure if it speaks to your points but that’s how I see it.
I agree with everything you said, but I would argue it's easy and understandable to make a smart (censored) comment and I wouldn't blink in eye or wonder why someone does when the title says that the program is a "scam"
Agreed.
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There is no time limit on it
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@patriotjery_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
typical yankees fan whining again
He's not a Yankees fan, Karen.
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@eatyum_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
@vipersneak_mlbts said in Always intense program is a scam:
While not a scam, I am not sure how some of you actually believe something in this game is free. There is nothing free in this game.
Ok, but since time is money, that means everything costs something, and if everything costs something, does it even matter? Do I have to have some internal debate about spending money (time) on either watching Netflix or playing mlbts. And then I'm spending money (time) on that internal debate, which doesn't seem prudent.
If Everyone's Super!!! No One is!!!
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@udvikings_xbl said in Always intense program is a scam:
@vipersneak_mlbts said in Always intense program is a scam:
While not a scam, I am not sure how some of you actually believe something in this game is free. There is nothing free in this game.
What's your definition of "free"? Of course they don't literally hand out cards (well actually they do, on daily log-ins) so yes, you have to go and earn a card. But things are absolutely "free" in the sense that we don't have to spend any money on this game to enjoy the game and complete programs / collections.
Now if you want to argue that time is money, fine. But you're going to have to invest something into the game if you want to find success (completing programs and collections).
I guess if you didnt buy the game and didnt complete a mission it might be free.
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Holy hell…..it’s a video game. Way to many people get [censored] hurt over virtual cards. At the end of the day it’s still a [censored] game. The developers don’t care what anyones job or life is. They put out content and like it or not, play it or not, at the end of the day it’s a service you can take part in or pound sand. It’s not that difficult in reality.
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The part that gets me is having to do the showdown. I'm terrible ... TERRIBLE at showdowns, so I'm not going to even try this program.
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OK, moment of confession: after complaining about it and saying I wasn’t gonna do it, I bought a few cards to get the PXP started and I finished it today after going through the showdown I said I’d never do. And it really wasn’t that bad at all. You don’t have to spend a lot of stubs to buy into the cards if you have to. But I have to confess it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. It was actually kind of fun.
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@daddysr-29_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
The part that gets me is having to do the showdown. I'm terrible ... TERRIBLE at showdowns, so I'm not going to even try this program.
Oh well.Hey, I’m with you about showdowns. But honest. I got through it today. I only had to repeat it once. The secret for me was not to swing so early. Keep the bat back long enough for the curveballs.
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I am never good at showdowns ever and I did it the first time I am very happy
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@nymets1987_psn said in Always intense program is a scam:
I am never good at showdowns ever and I did it the first time I am very happy
Congratulations to you and me both!
