Outliers back…
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Unfortunately outlier is making a return to this years game. I was hoping to see it go by the wayside but it was mentioned in the stream. I have a feeling we’re getting a cut and paste for 22….the stream was very underwhelming IMO. I’ve played pretty much every show game since inception and 21 was one of the worst. Hope this doesn’t go down the same path.
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Why would they remove it?
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@ikasnu_psn said in Outliers back…:
Why would they remove it?
Not that it needs to be removed but it should be exactly as described- an outlier. There’s not a pitcher in MLB history that throws over 100 MPH on every pitch for an entire game or even a relief appearance. With the erratic timing windows online it made for an unpleasant experience in DD for 21.
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They did make a note that the accuracy of outlier pitches will be lower this year. They also said the velocity would be lower. I don't know if that means velocity will drop over time or overall top pitch speed is dropped, or both but either one is welcome.
I gotta give them credit, a lot of the gameplay changes seem to be fixed for things that were big complaints last year. -
@kovz88_psn said in Outliers back…:
They did make a note that the accuracy of outlier pitches will be lower this year. They also said the velocity would be lower. I don't know if that means velocity will drop over time or overall top pitch speed is dropped, or both but either one is welcome.
I gotta give them credit, a lot of the gameplay changes seem to be fixed for things that were big complaints last year.I thought both factors were dependent on pitch quality of input. If not a PP pitch, then lower speed/accuracy. PP pitch would/could still generate 102. Don’t recall any mention of this over 90 pitches (i.e. if I hit 90 PP pitches, do I hit 102 every time?)
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Here is my question....why is pinpoint better than meter? Why is meter better than analog?
Shouldn't all pitching interfaces perform the same? I don't think one should be better than the others as it now.
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@ccarr77_psn said in Outliers back…:
Here is my question....why is pinpoint better than meter? Why is meter better than analog?
Shouldn't all pitching interfaces perform the same? I don't think one should be better than the others as it now.
If one is harder than the other then it should be rewarded as such. Performing the pinpoint action is harder than hitting x twice
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@kovz88_psn said in Outliers back…:
@ccarr77_psn said in Outliers back…:
Here is my question....why is pinpoint better than meter? Why is meter better than analog?
Shouldn't all pitching interfaces perform the same? I don't think one should be better than the others as it now.
If one is harder than the other then it should be rewarded as such. Performing the pinpoint action is harder than hitting x twice
It may be harder but it's also more frequently rewarded with precision accuracy from poor inputs.
PPP needs to have a much greater margin of error for less than perfect/perfect/perfect inputs the same way other pitching types are.
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@aaronjw76_psn said in Outliers back…:
@kovz88_psn said in Outliers back…:
@ccarr77_psn said in Outliers back…:
Here is my question....why is pinpoint better than meter? Why is meter better than analog?
Shouldn't all pitching interfaces perform the same? I don't think one should be better than the others as it now.
If one is harder than the other then it should be rewarded as such. Performing the pinpoint action is harder than hitting x twice
It may be harder but it's also more greatly rewarded with precision accuracy from with poor inputs.
PPP needs to have a much greater margin of error for less than perfect/perfect/perfect inputs the same way other pitching types are.
I agree it definitely needs to be tweaked. It should be risk/reward. The reward is higher but the penalty for a miss is harsher.
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@kovz88_psn said in Outliers back…:
@ccarr77_psn said in Outliers back…:
Here is my question....why is pinpoint better than meter? Why is meter better than analog?
Shouldn't all pitching interfaces perform the same? I don't think one should be better than the others as it now.
If one is harder than the other then it should be rewarded as such. Performing the pinpoint action is harder than hitting x twice
I whole heartally disagree. I cannot get consistent perfect on meter at all. And I am guessing most people that used analog or PP cannot either. PP is very easy. Analog next easiest but less rewarded.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Outliers back…:
@kovz88_psn said in Outliers back…:
@ccarr77_psn said in Outliers back…:
Here is my question....why is pinpoint better than meter? Why is meter better than analog?
Shouldn't all pitching interfaces perform the same? I don't think one should be better than the others as it now.
If one is harder than the other then it should be rewarded as such. Performing the pinpoint action is harder than hitting x twice
I whole heartally disagree. I cannot get consistent perfect on meter at all. And I am guessing most people that used analog or PP cannot either. PP is very easy. Analog next easiest but less rewarded.
Hey man, if that's harder for YOU then it is what it is. They clearly have the data and numbers to show how often people are getting perfect pitches. Pinpoint to me should just be made a bit more strict on the motions/timing and have more of a penalty for bad input than the other pitching options. Risk/reward style
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