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    @baracesilk_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    Which gives us the option to maybe have a new person in our lineup. 97 prime card wasn't good enough to make most peoples final lineup. This one might be. It's nice to have more options to potentially make our team.

    There are already like 30+ high rated guys that you can play in the OF right now. It's just that the community decides that the majority isn't usable. People want Manny in the game, and then would say he isnt usable because he isnt fast or good defensively. We asked for Henry Aaron for years, and now no one uses any of his current cards, and may not use his 99 because they dont like his swing.

    There isnt a problem with diversity, theres a problem with the what the community deems "usable".

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    If there are not enough cards that are being deemed "usable" than there is a problem with diversity. The more cards deemed as usable only makes the game stronger...not weaker.

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    @baracesilk_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    If there are not enough cards that are being deemed "usable" than there is a problem with diversity. The more cards deemed as usable only makes the game stronger...not weaker.

    You are missing the point. I use that 94 Mickey Mantle in the OF. He crushes lefties, is good enough vs righties. He has speed, is good defensively and has a strong arm. No one else uses him. Why? Because hes not a 99, or they dont like his swing, or they perform better with someone else, etc. Hes completely usable, but not considered by the community. That's a community issue, not a diversity issue.

    The content creators and community decide who is "better" and therefore that's who gets used more often. There are plenty of other cards that dont get used that could very easily be in peoples lineups.

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    We are just going to go round and round because I think you are missing the point that the same legends end up in the same lineups every year and to add more cards that can break that lineup is not making the game weaker. When the same lineups end up in 85% of peoples games..then it is a diversity issue. I get that you may be in the 15% that don't use the same cards but that makes your evidence anecdotal. The fact is the majority are using the same cards.

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    @baracesilk_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    We are just going to go round and round because I think you are missing the point that the same legends end up in the same lineups every year and to add more cards that can break that lineup is not making the game weaker. When the same lineups end up in 85% of peoples games..then it is a diversity issue. I get that you may be in the 15% that don't use the same cards but that makes your evidence anecdotal. The fact is the majority are using the same cards.

    My point is that it will always be this way. The content creators and community choose what card is OP, or meta, or whatever, and that card shows up in 85% of the lineups. It doesnt mean that it's a better card though.

    They could come out with 5 OF right now with nearly the exact same attributes. They may have different swings or animations. Even though they are nearly identical, there will be a consensus on which cards are "better" and 85% will use them. That isnt a diversity issue, and it's not currently. It's a community mindset issue.

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    @poksey_mlbts said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    @baracesilk_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    We are just going to go round and round because I think you are missing the point that the same legends end up in the same lineups every year and to add more cards that can break that lineup is not making the game weaker. When the same lineups end up in 85% of peoples games..then it is a diversity issue. I get that you may be in the 15% that don't use the same cards but that makes your evidence anecdotal. The fact is the majority are using the same cards.

    My point is that it will always be this way. The content creators and community choose what card is OP, or meta, or whatever, and that card shows up in 85% of the lineups. It doesnt mean that it's a better card though.

    They could come out with 5 OF right now with nearly the exact same attributes. They may have different swings or animations. Even though they are nearly identical, there will be a consensus on which cards are "better" and 85% will use them. That isnt a diversity issue, and it's not currently. It's a community mindset issue.

    Sheep mentality. Welcome to our society. Winning in an online video game > trying out different cards and lowering your chances of winning.

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    @poksey_mlbts said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    @baracesilk_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    We are just going to go round and round because I think you are missing the point that the same legends end up in the same lineups every year and to add more cards that can break that lineup is not making the game weaker. When the same lineups end up in 85% of peoples games..then it is a diversity issue. I get that you may be in the 15% that don't use the same cards but that makes your evidence anecdotal. The fact is the majority are using the same cards.

    My point is that it will always be this way. The content creators and community choose what card is OP, or meta, or whatever, and that card shows up in 85% of the lineups. It doesnt mean that it's a better card though.

    They could come out with 5 OF right now with nearly the exact same attributes. They may have different swings or animations. Even though they are nearly identical, there will be a consensus on which cards are "better" and 85% will use them. That isnt a diversity issue, and it's not currently. It's a community mindset issue.

    I get what you are saying, I truly do. I just don't understand how the answer to that is to stop making different cards available and only making the legends. That will feed into that mentality even more. At least with adding more and more cards give those of us in the 15% more cards to use and break into our lineups...When they stop giving us cards like Kemp 6th inning and only give us Musial, Ruth, Mays, Mantle...it becomes even more stale.

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    I think the point is that unless this Kemp is juiced to absolute absurdity he's going by the wayside when Mantle, Griffey, etc. are released, so why not have a boosted Kemp card earlier in the game's cycle? That way he'll get a good run in people's lineups.

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    @skarmaen_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    I think the point is that unless this Kemp is juiced to absolute absurdity he's going by the wayside when Mantle, Griffey, etc. are released, so why not have a boosted Kemp card earlier in the game's cycle? That way he'll get a good run in people's lineups.

    Because then there is no room for guys like Sizemore or Glaus in those spots. Its a lose lose situation for SDS because its either "why not release these cards sooner in waiting for the big names" or "why play this card when I already have _______" its the same group that whines about both. The mindset is that any card that isn't the specific guy they are waiting for is a massive L. They want top notch end game cards on every content drop and that just physically isn't possible

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    @jaencarlos_psn said in Well It's Matt Kemp guys one of our inning bosses:

    I wanted Mantle but its Matt Kemp

    Why?? Why Kemp, of all the outfielders out there?

    I wanted Johnny Damon!

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