Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken
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@painpa_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.Actually Babe is second best to Aaron.
Huh? No... Aaron is great.. top 10. But not close to Babe... Teddy you'd have an argument in just pure hitting..
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@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
You're exactly right. And he's not the best hitter of all time. I love the Babe, but facts are facts. He would be lost.
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@formallyforearms said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.So then by that logic, with the same training, mechanics, science, and tech available to Ruth, he would be even better than he already was.
I dont care what anyone argues, if you take any all time past great, and give them the chance to use everything available to modern athletes, they would still be all time greats today.
In that hypothetical, absolutely.
But I'm just talking about plopping Babe Ruth circa 1927 against Chris Sale today (healthy)... He wouldn't stand a chance.Umm, plopping 1927 Babe Ruth against Chris Sale today is also a hypothetical.
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@abbyspapa_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@formallyforearms said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.So then by that logic, with the same training, mechanics, science, and tech available to Ruth, he would be even better than he already was.
I dont care what anyone argues, if you take any all time past great, and give them the chance to use everything available to modern athletes, they would still be all time greats today.
In that hypothetical, absolutely.
But I'm just talking about plopping Babe Ruth circa 1927 against Chris Sale today (healthy)... He wouldn't stand a chance.Umm, plopping 1927 Babe Ruth against Chris Sale today is also a hypothetical.
It's the hypothetical in the topic we are discussing
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Hypothetically if Ray Charles could see would he play the piano better??
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@formallyforearms said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.So then by that logic, with the same training, mechanics, science, and tech available to Ruth, he would be even better than he already was.
I dont care what anyone argues, if you take any all time past great, and give them the chance to use everything available to modern athletes, they would still be all time greats today.
In that hypothetical, absolutely.
But I'm just talking about plopping Babe Ruth circa 1927 against Chris Sale today (healthy)... He wouldn't stand a chance.I think you should pump the brakes on this argument a bit. Unless you are going to share with the class when these magical changes take place. 1950? 1970? 1990? I agree that the average player from 1927 would struggle against Sale but its not like guys started throwing hard yesterday. Baseball skill….you either have it or you don’t…..or didn’t.
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@painpa_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.Actually Babe is second best to Aaron.
Huh? No... Aaron is great.. top 10. But not close to Babe... Teddy you'd have an argument in just pure hitting..
Aaron retired #1 in home runs and #2 in hits only 400 and change from cobb.
No he didnt have the 370 and 390 avgs of ruth. but then ruth ended up 1000 hits less.
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@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@formallyforearms said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.So then by that logic, with the same training, mechanics, science, and tech available to Ruth, he would be even better than he already was.
I dont care what anyone argues, if you take any all time past great, and give them the chance to use everything available to modern athletes, they would still be all time greats today.
In that hypothetical, absolutely.
But I'm just talking about plopping Babe Ruth circa 1927 against Chris Sale today (healthy)... He wouldn't stand a chance.I think you should pump the brakes on this argument a bit. Unless you are going to share with the class when these magical changes take place. 1950? 1970? 1990? I agree that the average player from 1927 would struggle against Sale but its not like guys started throwing hard yesterday. Baseball skill….you either have it or you don’t…..or didn’t.
That's all I said. Hitters from 1920's (Babe) would struggle against Sale. That's it.. no brakes needed..
And the average fastball velocity has dramatically jumped in the past 25 years. Dramatically.
Every sport has leaps in performance and conditioning. Baseball is probably one of the biggest examples of that.
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@painpa_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@painpa_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.Actually Babe is second best to Aaron.
Huh? No... Aaron is great.. top 10. But not close to Babe... Teddy you'd have an argument in just pure hitting..
Aaron retired #1 in home runs and #2 in hits only 400 and change from cobb.
No he didnt have the 370 and 390 avgs of ruth. but then ruth ended up 1000 hits less.
They are opinions though its okay they are differentAaron did it with amazing durability and consistency. He was not the hitter Bonds, Babe or Ted were.
Aaron 155 OPS+
Bonds 182 OPS+
Babe 206 OPS+
Ted 191 OPS+Aaron top 10.. not in the top 3.. and ya man. Opinions... This is mine...
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Ruth had career totals of:
.374 BA/.474 OBP/.690 slugging %
1.164 OPS career!
206 OPS+Bonds hit 48 more HRs than him in almost 2000 more plate appearances in 483 more games.
Bonds
.298 BA/.444 OBP/.607 slugging %
1.051 OPS
182 OPS+Aaron had 41 more HRS in 3300+ more PAs than Ruth in 795 more games
.305 BA/.374 OBP/.555 slugging %
.928 OPS
155 OPS+I think many people dont understand how great Babe Ruth really was. Hes #1 in WAR for a reason.
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Babe in today’s game with today training and medical would be a phenom. He’s a better version of Ohtani, better pitcher and a much better hitter.
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I think people in this thread should watch the documentary "Fastball". Using science and applying it to today's way of clocking pitch speeds....Walter Johnson was hitting 97+ miles an hour and the second fast pitch of all time , 107.8, was registered by Feller in 1946....so pitch speed argument is rediculous, guys back in Ruth's day where most certainly hitting 95+ based on how pitch speeds are calculated now.
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After 2 Ruth singles, I struck his porky buttocks out.
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@stiebfan37_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
I think people in this thread should watch the documentary "Fastball". Using science and applying it to today's way of clocking pitch speeds....Walter Johnson was hitting 97+ miles an hour and the second fast pitch of all time , 107.8, was registered by Feller in 1946....so pitch speed argument is rediculous, guys back in Ruth's day where most certainly hitting 95+ based on how pitch speeds are calculated now.
I've watched that doc, and they definitely don't come to that conclusion. It was basically impossible to prove. Conditioning back then would make it near impossible to consistently reach those speeds.
Even 10 years ago the average pitch speed was a few mph slower than today. Every pitcher throws 95+ now. You'd be lucky to have a handful that did it even 35 years ago... Let alone 100 years.. when guys were going to war, starving half the time, eating terribly and drinking before and after games.. -
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@xxdeathreyxx_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@formallyforearms said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.So then by that logic, with the same training, mechanics, science, and tech available to Ruth, he would be even better than he already was.
I dont care what anyone argues, if you take any all time past great, and give them the chance to use everything available to modern athletes, they would still be all time greats today.
In that hypothetical, absolutely.
But I'm just talking about plopping Babe Ruth circa 1927 against Chris Sale today (healthy)... He wouldn't stand a chance.I think you should pump the brakes on this argument a bit. Unless you are going to share with the class when these magical changes take place. 1950? 1970? 1990? I agree that the average player from 1927 would struggle against Sale but its not like guys started throwing hard yesterday. Baseball skill….you either have it or you don’t…..or didn’t.
That's all I said. Hitters from 1920's (Babe) would struggle against Sale. That's it.. no brakes needed..
And the average fastball velocity has dramatically jumped in the past 25 years. Dramatically.
Every sport has leaps in performance and conditioning. Baseball is probably one of the biggest examples of that.
Even in the last 5 years, spin rate is now being optimized.Other sports have nothing to do with baseball. If you want to say that an average offensive lineman from 1950 would get absolutely steamrolled by Danielle Hunter, fine. But there were plenty of guys throwing hard 50 years ago. More now? Yeah but I think that the leaps are much more mitigated by a sport like baseball where skill is still king.
ETA: and struggling against Sale is a weak argument in itself. Modern hitters struggled against Sale. If want to be bold, make a case as to why Randy Dobnak would win the 1927 Cy Young.
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@brrxdy_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bobbyromano24 said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@cobain93_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
Was able to knock this out remotely on my iPhone 6 while at work. Nice!
please explain how to do this. i don't have a 6 anymore but i do have an 8
yeah im going to need to know this too... if i can play on my phone while at work....oh boy, grind szn
@bobbyromano24 said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@cobain93_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
Was able to knock this out remotely on my iPhone 6 while at work. Nice!
please explain how to do this. i don't have a 6 anymore but i do have an 8
Just download the "PSRemotePlay" app from the App store and link your account.
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@cobain93_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@brrxdy_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bobbyromano24 said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@cobain93_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
Was able to knock this out remotely on my iPhone 6 while at work. Nice!
please explain how to do this. i don't have a 6 anymore but i do have an 8
yeah im going to need to know this too... if i can play on my phone while at work....oh boy, grind szn
@bobbyromano24 said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@cobain93_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
Was able to knock this out remotely on my iPhone 6 while at work. Nice!
please explain how to do this. i don't have a 6 anymore but i do have an 8
Just download the "PSRemotePlay" app from the App store and link your account.
I can't "hit" even on the playstation console, so that may be hard on a dinky phone...but striking a batter out is pretty easy. I mainly use it to knock out my daily objective in Madden Ultimate Team. Much easier to play MUT than The Show on the phone.
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All I had to do was FB, FB, Slider way out of the zone and completed the challenge in less than 30 seconds
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
Babe is the best hitter of all time (actually 2nd to Bonds, but that's beside the point) because he was that much better than his comp.
No pitcher back then had the insane training, mechanics, science and tech that professional athletes do today.
90mph straight fastballs were the norm even up to 1990 lol...
On top of all that, Chris Sale is filthy even in today's insane standards.SO you don't know much about all time baseball huh? and no bonds is not the best hitter of all time,,, babe is..SO you don't think pitchers threw 90 back then and had insane breaking stuff? You really need to do your research on all time greats. Yes they didn't last as long as they do today because of training but most certainly aren't better just because they exist today.. Dude they had all that and didn't have video where they could see how pitchers pitched them and have an analytics guy show them what was thrown to them. Chis sale is filthy by any standard but he isn't an all time great and never will be. It also doesn't mean babe wouldn't destroy him..
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@kingakp_xbl said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@bwheel1977_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Thursday’s Babe Ruth moment broken:
IRL Babe wouldn't even know what to do against Chris Sale, let's be honest.
Yeah because babe never hit good pitching and sale some how could get the best hitter of all time out consistently...
You're exactly right. And he's not the best hitter of all time. I love the Babe, but facts are facts. He would be lost.
lmao,,, you guys are nuts.. Ok think of it this way,, you plug chris back in time and he knows what he knows... How is he better than a red faber? a lefty grove? Any of those guys were better than chris will ever be and they throw hard and have devastating breaking stuff. btw they pitched almost every day so you always got the best pitchers. Chris' arm would blow out in a year unless he changed his approach.
You do it the other way and bring babe to now and its's even worse. Babe with actual video to see how pitchers pitch to him and he just gets better.. He would have good coaching and diet would be better. He would feast n 4th and 5th starters and bull pen guys. The balls are much indusive for hitting in today's era also not to mention the parks are much smaller. He would hit 900 homers if he was doing it today..
