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Things get totally off topic or people don’t talk or debate about the actual subject matter smh. And people wonder why things don’t get fixed
See it’s not off topic though, and that’s why you all don’t understand r2 use. And in turn dislike it.
In the game I cannot make my batter step out of the box between every pitch and take a practice cut or readjust his gloves like real batters do to give themselves a second to think about what to expect next. So in the game I am given the r2 button.
There isn’t a single instance where I can press that button that doesn’t correlate to a batter being able to step out during a real game. I can’t press r2 when you’re in your windup. I can’t step out of the box in a real game during the windup. R2 is not broken and is not the problem. The problem is people don’t understand real baseball and are upset they can’t just rush through a game because the other player wants to take his time between pitches guessing what he might see next.
The fact no one understands that and you seem to think it’s off topic literally just further pushes the point that the mechanic isn’t broken, people are just upset it’s disrupting the way they personally want to play the game.
So hey let’s ruin the game for others just to cater it to you, pretty much the epitome of a giant baby.
First off the batter steps out of the box at his own risk. If a pitcher elects to pitch while the batter has stepped out there is nothing the batter can do but accept the result of the pitch. The only time a batter has the explicit right to step out of the box is with the permission of the home plate umpire via the use of a time. However this is rarely used unless a pitcher is already come set or is taking signs from the catcher. Between pitches is more of a gentleman’s agreement that a pitcher will allow the hitter to go through their pre pitch gyrations. So you are absolutely wrong in saying that you should be granted this pre pitch time to do anything other than wait for the pitch to be delivered. This whole argument is stale and misguided and does not come from any actual line of reasoning.
I can’t think of one recent instance where any pitcher has thrown a pitch with the batter having a foot out of the box between pitches taking practice cuts. But hey let’s use that as precedence lol
So we’re going to be super technical in a video game about a rule that truly doesn’t exist in the real sport just because we don’t like that people disrupt our pitching but on the converse can’t understand we’re disrupting their hitting?
Again sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me. But hey to each their own.
The rule is the rule. Just because a pitcher “allows” the hitter to do those things doesn’t mean the hitter is “entitled” to do those things. Greg Maddux was notorious for making pitches when batters were doing those things and batters soon realized this and began asking for time prior to pitches to avoid this from happening.
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Allow only One Press of R2 PER AT Pitch at 3 seconds your choice.
This will satisfy both sides....
Side One (Your not going to quick pitch me clan) They can slow down the at bat by 3 seconds whatever you choose.
Side Two (messing with my PPP or other pitching clan) once they see that they pressed R2 they know it can’t happen again that at bat so they don’t have to worry.
Implement One time use of R2 per at bat
That’s like telling the batter in a real baseball game he can only step out of the box or take one practice swing per at bat. It’s so amazing how many people don’t watch real baseball and understand that the batter dictates the pace of the game not the pitcher. It’s why they readjust their elbow guards and gloves every few pitches or step out and take practice cuts.
The average baseball game lasts 3+ hours and people are upset they’re having to play a video game based on the real thing for more than 10 minutes, or because the other player is disrupting their rhythm to create their own lol
You are obviously devoid of any intelligence if you believe the batter dictates the pace of the game.
Here another thing, you never hear anyone talk about how long it took a hitter to get in the box or how fast a hitter worked or how slow a hitter worked or the avg game of this x hitter takes 4 hours. When X pitcher is starting the avg game time is xxx.You know when you go to a game the avg game takes 3 hours but if a certain pitcher is starting you can expect the game to go this amount of time. That is never talked about with hitters.
Dude we are saying the same thing. Why do you keep mentioning my post. The point I’m making is that the batter has little to do with the pace of play. What a batter does pre pitch is at his own risk. He does not get a mandated amount of time to readjust his gloves, cup, shin or elbow guards. When he steps in the box, by rule he must remain in the box or accept the results of any pitch made while he is out of the box without the explicit permission of the home plate umpire.
Yes but between every single pitch he can take as long as he wants up to the umpires discretion to take practice swings adjust his gloves etc. but in all reality just stop and think about what pitches he’s seeing in a given at bat. You even see the best players do it more often against better pitchers. literally the function of the r2 button. Only difference is I can’t make my player step out of the box between pitches without calling timeout.
But this isn’t calling time out either. So would you rather me be allowed to call timeout before every single pitch to take my “practice” cuts gather my breath and think about which pitches I’m seeing? Or would you prefer to keep the r2 mechanic availability between every pitch but just maybe a time cap to it like 3-5 seconds.
It’s just amazing how people can’t understand that if a pitcher is blowing through the game the manager will intentionally have his players disrupt the pace. It happens all the time in games.
I agree with that,
The R2 is not meant to be use to mess up the pitchers timing, It is meant to see previous pitch locations, pitchers stamina and other information. It not a big problem for me cause I use meter it is annoying and it is annoying I can not step off the mound as much as my opponent can push or hold R2, The players in my experience that use it for an exploit just push it when the pitcher is in the windup. No batter's are not calling time and stepping out of the box on every pitch to mess with timing in real life baseball, after the pitch yes, before the pitch yes but not when the pitcher is in the windup. Players in my experience that use R2 in this way can not hit and using R2 in this way does not make them a better hitter, Using it to slow down someone QP is different then someone pushing R2 you can not pitch, that is what happens with Meter. I select my pitch but then I can not pitch the ball this is with QP and not QP pitching, All they really need to do in implement a delay in selecting the pitch and after that R2 can not be used.or just let me step off the mound as much as I want just like the hitter can hold or push R2 as they want. The best counter to R2 would be me being able to step off the mound.
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
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Things get totally off topic or people don’t talk or debate about the actual subject matter smh. And people wonder why things don’t get fixed
See it’s not off topic though, and that’s why you all don’t understand r2 use. And in turn dislike it.
In the game I cannot make my batter step out of the box between every pitch and take a practice cut or readjust his gloves like real batters do to give themselves a second to think about what to expect next. So in the game I am given the r2 button.
There isn’t a single instance where I can press that button that doesn’t correlate to a batter being able to step out during a real game. I can’t press r2 when you’re in your windup. I can’t step out of the box in a real game during the windup. R2 is not broken and is not the problem. The problem is people don’t understand real baseball and are upset they can’t just rush through a game because the other player wants to take his time between pitches guessing what he might see next.
The fact no one understands that and you seem to think it’s off topic literally just further pushes the point that the mechanic isn’t broken, people are just upset it’s disrupting the way they personally want to play the game.
So hey let’s ruin the game for others just to cater it to you, pretty much the epitome of a giant baby.
First off the batter steps out of the box at his own risk. If a pitcher elects to pitch while the batter has stepped out there is nothing the batter can do but accept the result of the pitch. The only time a batter has the explicit right to step out of the box is with the permission of the home plate umpire via the use of a time. However this is rarely used unless a pitcher is already come set or is taking signs from the catcher. Between pitches is more of a gentleman’s agreement that a pitcher will allow the hitter to go through their pre pitch gyrations. So you are absolutely wrong in saying that you should be granted this pre pitch time to do anything other than wait for the pitch to be delivered. This whole argument is stale and misguided and does not come from any actual line of reasoning.
I can’t think of one recent instance where any pitcher has thrown a pitch with the batter having a foot out of the box between pitches taking practice cuts. But hey let’s use that as precedence lol
So we’re going to be super technical in a video game about a rule that truly doesn’t exist in the real sport just because we don’t like that people disrupt our pitching but on the converse can’t understand we’re disrupting their hitting?
Again sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me. But hey to each their own.
The rule is the rule. Just because a pitcher “allows” the hitter to do those things doesn’t mean the hitter is “entitled” to do those things. Greg Maddux was notorious for making pitches when batters were doing those things and batters soon realized this and began asking for time prior to pitches to avoid this from happening.
So you avoided my question would you rather me be granted time for as long as I want between every pitch? Or would you rather me just spam r2 here or there.
You’re missing my whole point here r2 is a mechanic that allows the batter to play the game the way he would in real life. Could I also call time? Yes I could but that’s just going to slow the game down way more and ruin my own rhythm. In real life if I step out of the box and you try to pitch I can notice that and still try to step in and swing....
There’s no way to make a video game where I can step out of the box and take a breath and you can pitch the ball while I’m out and on my end I can step back in and try and swing. So they found a happy medium for both sides and the side that’s upset they can’t blow through every single game in 10 minutes just doesn’t want to see that. It’s borderline asinine.
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
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Now wait a minute here, "a batter needs to have a way to slow down a pitcher" ??? A batter has absolutely no control over when a pitcher is to pitch.
R2 should not be allowed to stop anything, if you want time, call time, that is real baseball. R2 should still be able to display info, but not stop the pitchers meter.
In principle, I agree with you, but there are people who pitch as fast as they can, and there absolutely needs to be a mechanism to neutralize that.
You are allowed to have your opinion, but I disagree. If they want to pitch as fast as possible, so what, doesn't bother me.
Well, it’s not all about you.
Nor is it all about you. So fact is you can't make every one happy.
True, you can’t. However, what you’re suggesting puts one side at a distinct disadvantage. Why should one player get to dictate the pace of the game?
Because in baseball the pitcher does dictate the pace, allowing R2 to stop the play is not the solution. Some pitchers like to work fast, see Wade Miley for example, many others don't. In real life it's best to work at different paces to keep the batter uneasy. But no matter how you slice it, in real baseball pace is dictated by pitcher. All a batter can do is call for time, that is also in the game. Balks on, help elevate some of the issues about coming set, but if the batter is in the box, it is no longer his control and to expect the pitcher to throw when he is ready is unrealistic. Baseball is a game of adjustments, when I play people online, I know I need to adjust to how I am going to be pitched. Just as I know my opponent will steal a lot, hit and run a lot, bunt a lot, way more than playing the CPU.
Except for the fact that the batter can only call time once in an at-bat. The problem with people that pitch so fast is that with most pitchers, it creates completely unrealistic movement. How is this so hard to understand?
The batter may be able to call time once but he can step his foot outside the box at any time during the at bat before the pitcher becomes set, or before they start their wind up.
Just watch a little league game. The kids step out every pitch and look over at the coach for a sign.
I’m talking about in the game, not real life.
The game is simulated based on the real life sport... the kids look over at the coach because the coach tells them what pitch to expect. People use r2 to give themselves time to think about what’s coming next. I use it and analyze the previous pitches and by the 4th or 5th pitch of an at bat I can usually smash a good good perfect perfect just by guessing which pitch your going to throw next let alone the location,
Anyone whining about r2 use is literally just upset they can’t quick pitch you and give you no time to catch on to what pitches you’re throwing most often and which locations you frequent with each pitch. Not just from at bat to at bat but literally within each at bat.
It’s part of real life baseball so it’s part of the game. If you don’t like it go play backyard baseball lol
What are you even talking about? There are plenty of people who just spam it to disrupt the pitcher. That has nothing to do with real baseball.
If I’m playing baseball and you’re fast pitching me I will step out of the box between every pitch and take some practice swings. Readjust my gloves and elbow guard etc. real baseball the batter can slow the pitcher down in many ways. He just can’t slow the game down to the point it’s boring as hell for the crowd and the game drags on 5 hours.
You realize a real baseball game takes an average of over 3 hours, and your bitching about having to play a game for 30-45 minutes because the other guy doesn’t want to be fast pitched all night. Get out of here and stop being a baby.
Dude, what are you talking about? You’re trying to argue with me and you don’t even seem to understand my stance.
I understand perfectly fine. You’re upset people prevent you from quick pitching and spam the r2 button at random [censored] times. But you don’t seem to understand it’s the exact equivalent of the batter stepping out of the box taking practice swings between every single pitch. These players are intentionally throwing off your rhythm to improve their own chances at winning the game and you’re upset over it but can’t understand how much of a baby it makes you. You’re literally just upset you can’t rush through the game and someone else is enjoying it how they want to play. Sad
Except I’ve been making the exact opposite argument. Idiot.
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Allow only One Press of R2 PER AT Pitch at 3 seconds your choice.
This will satisfy both sides....
Side One (Your not going to quick pitch me clan) They can slow down the at bat by 3 seconds whatever you choose.
Side Two (messing with my PPP or other pitching clan) once they see that they pressed R2 they know it can’t happen again that at bat so they don’t have to worry.
Implement One time use of R2 per at bat
That’s like telling the batter in a real baseball game he can only step out of the box or take one practice swing per at bat. It’s so amazing how many people don’t watch real baseball and understand that the batter dictates the pace of the game not the pitcher. It’s why they readjust their elbow guards and gloves every few pitches or step out and take practice cuts.
The average baseball game lasts 3+ hours and people are upset they’re having to play a video game based on the real thing for more than 10 minutes, or because the other player is disrupting their rhythm to create their own lol
You are obviously devoid of any intelligence if you believe the batter dictates the pace of the game.
Here another thing, you never hear anyone talk about how long it took a hitter to get in the box or how fast a hitter worked or how slow a hitter worked or the avg game of this x hitter takes 4 hours. When X pitcher is starting the avg game time is xxx.You know when you go to a game the avg game takes 3 hours but if a certain pitcher is starting you can expect the game to go this amount of time. That is never talked about with hitters.
Dude we are saying the same thing. Why do you keep mentioning my post. The point I’m making is that the batter has little to do with the pace of play. What a batter does pre pitch is at his own risk. He does not get a mandated amount of time to readjust his gloves, cup, shin or elbow guards. When he steps in the box, by rule he must remain in the box or accept the results of any pitch made while he is out of the box without the explicit permission of the home plate umpire.
Yes but between every single pitch he can take as long as he wants up to the umpires discretion to take practice swings adjust his gloves etc. but in all reality just stop and think about what pitches he’s seeing in a given at bat. You even see the best players do it more often against better pitchers. literally the function of the r2 button. Only difference is I can’t make my player step out of the box between pitches without calling timeout.
But this isn’t calling time out either. So would you rather me be allowed to call timeout before every single pitch to take my “practice” cuts gather my breath and think about which pitches I’m seeing? Or would you prefer to keep the r2 mechanic availability between every pitch but just maybe a time cap to it like 3-5 seconds.
It’s just amazing how people can’t understand that if a pitcher is blowing through the game the manager will intentionally have his players disrupt the pace. It happens all the time in games.
I agree with that,
The R2 is not meant to be use to mess up the pitchers timing, It is meant to see previous pitch locations, pitchers stamina and other information. It not a big problem for me cause I use meter it is annoying and it is annoying I can not step off the mound as much as my opponent can push or hold R2, The players in my experience that use it for an exploit just push it when the pitcher is in the windup. No batter's are not calling time and stepping out of the box on every pitch to mess with timing in real life baseball, after the pitch yes, before the pitch yes but not when the pitcher is in the windup. Players in my experience that use R2 in this way can not hit and using R2 in this way does not make them a better hitter, Using it to slow down someone QP is different then someone pushing R2 you can not pitch, that is what happens with Meter. I select my pitch but then I can not pitch the ball this is with QP and not QP pitching, All they really need to do in implement a delay in selecting the pitch and after that R2 can not be used.or just let me step off the mound as much as I want just like the hitter can hold or push R2 as they want. The best counter to R2 would be me being able to step off the mound.
Bingo. Don’t punish the batter. Give the pitcher the same option to step off and disrupt the batter.
All these people are just upset they can’t blow through every game in 10 minutes and get to their reward card for that week or whatever. I don’t like how you fast pitch me, you don’t like how I disrupt you. The feelings mutual. But you only see one side crying about it lol
It’s like let’s ruin the game for everyone just because a few people get in matches where horrible hitters just spam r2 to make them annoyed and hopefully quit.... you wouldn’t run into so many players like that if you weren’t playing 20-30 games a day lol
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@michearse_mlbts said in SDS please take a look at this R2 suggestion fix .:
@cmalz89_psn said in SDS please take a look at this R2 suggestion fix .:
As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
Except that R2 is being used as a weapon against... pitching. Which is a required element of gameplay. Using R2 in this weaponised context is optional and the pitcher has no equivalent because the pitcher has to pitch. The pitcher has to pitch and being f-ed with by a game feature that's being used in an unsportsmanlike way doesn't sound like 'exploiting each other's weaknesses' but more like the one-sided exploit it actually is.
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Things get totally off topic or people don’t talk or debate about the actual subject matter smh. And people wonder why things don’t get fixed
See it’s not off topic though, and that’s why you all don’t understand r2 use. And in turn dislike it.
In the game I cannot make my batter step out of the box between every pitch and take a practice cut or readjust his gloves like real batters do to give themselves a second to think about what to expect next. So in the game I am given the r2 button.
There isn’t a single instance where I can press that button that doesn’t correlate to a batter being able to step out during a real game. I can’t press r2 when you’re in your windup. I can’t step out of the box in a real game during the windup. R2 is not broken and is not the problem. The problem is people don’t understand real baseball and are upset they can’t just rush through a game because the other player wants to take his time between pitches guessing what he might see next.
The fact no one understands that and you seem to think it’s off topic literally just further pushes the point that the mechanic isn’t broken, people are just upset it’s disrupting the way they personally want to play the game.
So hey let’s ruin the game for others just to cater it to you, pretty much the epitome of a giant baby.
First off the batter steps out of the box at his own risk. If a pitcher elects to pitch while the batter has stepped out there is nothing the batter can do but accept the result of the pitch. The only time a batter has the explicit right to step out of the box is with the permission of the home plate umpire via the use of a time. However this is rarely used unless a pitcher is already come set or is taking signs from the catcher. Between pitches is more of a gentleman’s agreement that a pitcher will allow the hitter to go through their pre pitch gyrations. So you are absolutely wrong in saying that you should be granted this pre pitch time to do anything other than wait for the pitch to be delivered. This whole argument is stale and misguided and does not come from any actual line of reasoning.
I can’t think of one recent instance where any pitcher has thrown a pitch with the batter having a foot out of the box between pitches taking practice cuts. But hey let’s use that as precedence lol
So we’re going to be super technical in a video game about a rule that truly doesn’t exist in the real sport just because we don’t like that people disrupt our pitching but on the converse can’t understand we’re disrupting their hitting?
Again sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me. But hey to each their own.
The rule is the rule. Just because a pitcher “allows” the hitter to do those things doesn’t mean the hitter is “entitled” to do those things. Greg Maddux was notorious for making pitches when batters were doing those things and batters soon realized this and began asking for time prior to pitches to avoid this from happening.
So you avoided my question would you rather me be granted time for as long as I want between every pitch? Or would you rather me just spam r2 here or there.
You’re missing my whole point here r2 is a mechanic that allows the batter to play the game the way he would in real life. Could I also call time? Yes I could but that’s just going to slow the game down way more and ruin my own rhythm. In real life if I step out of the box and you try to pitch I can notice that and still try to step in and swing....
There’s no way to make a video game where I can step out of the box and take a breath and you can pitch the ball while I’m out and on my end I can step back in and try and swing. So they found a happy medium for both sides and the side that’s upset they can’t blow through every single game in 10 minutes just doesn’t want to see that. It’s borderline asinine.
You do not understand the exploit because it sounds like you do not you R2 to exploit you use it one players that QP. That is not the problem, maybe you do use it as an exploit. If a player can R2 then let me step off the mound as much as I want. Why should you be aloud to hold push spam R2 while I am starting my windup and not allow me to pitch then the pitch is way out of the zone or down the middle. Why should the hitter have an advantage over the pitcher. The solution is let me step off the mound if you are holding pushing spaming R2. I should be able to step off the mound as much as I want. The game only allows you 3 step offs an inning..
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Now wait a minute here, "a batter needs to have a way to slow down a pitcher" ??? A batter has absolutely no control over when a pitcher is to pitch.
R2 should not be allowed to stop anything, if you want time, call time, that is real baseball. R2 should still be able to display info, but not stop the pitchers meter.
In principle, I agree with you, but there are people who pitch as fast as they can, and there absolutely needs to be a mechanism to neutralize that.
You are allowed to have your opinion, but I disagree. If they want to pitch as fast as possible, so what, doesn't bother me.
Well, it’s not all about you.
Nor is it all about you. So fact is you can't make every one happy.
True, you can’t. However, what you’re suggesting puts one side at a distinct disadvantage. Why should one player get to dictate the pace of the game?
Because in baseball the pitcher does dictate the pace, allowing R2 to stop the play is not the solution. Some pitchers like to work fast, see Wade Miley for example, many others don't. In real life it's best to work at different paces to keep the batter uneasy. But no matter how you slice it, in real baseball pace is dictated by pitcher. All a batter can do is call for time, that is also in the game. Balks on, help elevate some of the issues about coming set, but if the batter is in the box, it is no longer his control and to expect the pitcher to throw when he is ready is unrealistic. Baseball is a game of adjustments, when I play people online, I know I need to adjust to how I am going to be pitched. Just as I know my opponent will steal a lot, hit and run a lot, bunt a lot, way more than playing the CPU.
Except for the fact that the batter can only call time once in an at-bat. The problem with people that pitch so fast is that with most pitchers, it creates completely unrealistic movement. How is this so hard to understand?
The batter may be able to call time once but he can step his foot outside the box at any time during the at bat before the pitcher becomes set, or before they start their wind up.
Just watch a little league game. The kids step out every pitch and look over at the coach for a sign.
I’m talking about in the game, not real life.
The game is simulated based on the real life sport... the kids look over at the coach because the coach tells them what pitch to expect. People use r2 to give themselves time to think about what’s coming next. I use it and analyze the previous pitches and by the 4th or 5th pitch of an at bat I can usually smash a good good perfect perfect just by guessing which pitch your going to throw next let alone the location,
Anyone whining about r2 use is literally just upset they can’t quick pitch you and give you no time to catch on to what pitches you’re throwing most often and which locations you frequent with each pitch. Not just from at bat to at bat but literally within each at bat.
It’s part of real life baseball so it’s part of the game. If you don’t like it go play backyard baseball lol
What are you even talking about? There are plenty of people who just spam it to disrupt the pitcher. That has nothing to do with real baseball.
If I’m playing baseball and you’re fast pitching me I will step out of the box between every pitch and take some practice swings. Readjust my gloves and elbow guard etc. real baseball the batter can slow the pitcher down in many ways. He just can’t slow the game down to the point it’s boring as hell for the crowd and the game drags on 5 hours.
You realize a real baseball game takes an average of over 3 hours, and your bitching about having to play a game for 30-45 minutes because the other guy doesn’t want to be fast pitched all night. Get out of here and stop being a baby.
Dude, what are you talking about? You’re trying to argue with me and you don’t even seem to understand my stance.
I understand perfectly fine. You’re upset people prevent you from quick pitching and spam the r2 button at random [censored] times. But you don’t seem to understand it’s the exact equivalent of the batter stepping out of the box taking practice swings between every single pitch. These players are intentionally throwing off your rhythm to improve their own chances at winning the game and you’re upset over it but can’t understand how much of a baby it makes you. You’re literally just upset you can’t rush through the game and someone else is enjoying it how they want to play. Sad
Except I’ve been making the exact opposite argument. Idiot.
Then you’re arguing with yourself over nothing. You say I don’t understand so I explain the opposite side to my argument and then you say you’re arguing the exact opposite which would mean you’re arguing my side. So you don’t understand? Or I don’t understand? I’m starting to think you don’t.
If you’re not upset that people are slowing down your fast pitching or disrupting your rhythm with the r2 button then you have no reason to want the r2 mechanic gone. So no I don’t understand what exactly is your grievance here if you’re not upset by anything the r2 mechanic causes
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Now wait a minute here, "a batter needs to have a way to slow down a pitcher" ??? A batter has absolutely no control over when a pitcher is to pitch.
R2 should not be allowed to stop anything, if you want time, call time, that is real baseball. R2 should still be able to display info, but not stop the pitchers meter.
In principle, I agree with you, but there are people who pitch as fast as they can, and there absolutely needs to be a mechanism to neutralize that.
You are allowed to have your opinion, but I disagree. If they want to pitch as fast as possible, so what, doesn't bother me.
Well, it’s not all about you.
Nor is it all about you. So fact is you can't make every one happy.
True, you can’t. However, what you’re suggesting puts one side at a distinct disadvantage. Why should one player get to dictate the pace of the game?
Because in baseball the pitcher does dictate the pace, allowing R2 to stop the play is not the solution. Some pitchers like to work fast, see Wade Miley for example, many others don't. In real life it's best to work at different paces to keep the batter uneasy. But no matter how you slice it, in real baseball pace is dictated by pitcher. All a batter can do is call for time, that is also in the game. Balks on, help elevate some of the issues about coming set, but if the batter is in the box, it is no longer his control and to expect the pitcher to throw when he is ready is unrealistic. Baseball is a game of adjustments, when I play people online, I know I need to adjust to how I am going to be pitched. Just as I know my opponent will steal a lot, hit and run a lot, bunt a lot, way more than playing the CPU.
Except for the fact that the batter can only call time once in an at-bat. The problem with people that pitch so fast is that with most pitchers, it creates completely unrealistic movement. How is this so hard to understand?
The batter may be able to call time once but he can step his foot outside the box at any time during the at bat before the pitcher becomes set, or before they start their wind up.
Just watch a little league game. The kids step out every pitch and look over at the coach for a sign.
I’m talking about in the game, not real life.
The game is simulated based on the real life sport... the kids look over at the coach because the coach tells them what pitch to expect. People use r2 to give themselves time to think about what’s coming next. I use it and analyze the previous pitches and by the 4th or 5th pitch of an at bat I can usually smash a good good perfect perfect just by guessing which pitch your going to throw next let alone the location,
Anyone whining about r2 use is literally just upset they can’t quick pitch you and give you no time to catch on to what pitches you’re throwing most often and which locations you frequent with each pitch. Not just from at bat to at bat but literally within each at bat.
It’s part of real life baseball so it’s part of the game. If you don’t like it go play backyard baseball lol
What are you even talking about? There are plenty of people who just spam it to disrupt the pitcher. That has nothing to do with real baseball.
If I’m playing baseball and you’re fast pitching me I will step out of the box between every pitch and take some practice swings. Readjust my gloves and elbow guard etc. real baseball the batter can slow the pitcher down in many ways. He just can’t slow the game down to the point it’s boring as hell for the crowd and the game drags on 5 hours.
You realize a real baseball game takes an average of over 3 hours, and your bitching about having to play a game for 30-45 minutes because the other guy doesn’t want to be fast pitched all night. Get out of here and stop being a baby.
Dude, what are you talking about? You’re trying to argue with me and you don’t even seem to understand my stance.
I understand perfectly fine. You’re upset people prevent you from quick pitching and spam the r2 button at random [censored] times. But you don’t seem to understand it’s the exact equivalent of the batter stepping out of the box taking practice swings between every single pitch. These players are intentionally throwing off your rhythm to improve their own chances at winning the game and you’re upset over it but can’t understand how much of a baby it makes you. You’re literally just upset you can’t rush through the game and someone else is enjoying it how they want to play. Sad
Except I’ve been making the exact opposite argument. Idiot.
Then you’re arguing with yourself over nothing. You say I don’t understand so I explain the opposite side to my argument and then you say you’re arguing the exact opposite which would mean you’re arguing my side. So you don’t understand? Or I don’t understand? I’m starting to think you don’t.
If you’re not upset that people are slowing down your fast pitching or disrupting your rhythm with the r2 button then you have no reason to want the r2 mechanic gone. So no I don’t understand what exactly is your grievance here if you’re not upset by anything the r2 mechanic causes
️Jesus Christ, you’re stupid. You need to go back and read what I’ve actually said. You appear to be confounding what I’ve said with someone else.
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Things get totally off topic or people don’t talk or debate about the actual subject matter smh. And people wonder why things don’t get fixed
See it’s not off topic though, and that’s why you all don’t understand r2 use. And in turn dislike it.
In the game I cannot make my batter step out of the box between every pitch and take a practice cut or readjust his gloves like real batters do to give themselves a second to think about what to expect next. So in the game I am given the r2 button.
There isn’t a single instance where I can press that button that doesn’t correlate to a batter being able to step out during a real game. I can’t press r2 when you’re in your windup. I can’t step out of the box in a real game during the windup. R2 is not broken and is not the problem. The problem is people don’t understand real baseball and are upset they can’t just rush through a game because the other player wants to take his time between pitches guessing what he might see next.
The fact no one understands that and you seem to think it’s off topic literally just further pushes the point that the mechanic isn’t broken, people are just upset it’s disrupting the way they personally want to play the game.
So hey let’s ruin the game for others just to cater it to you, pretty much the epitome of a giant baby.
First off the batter steps out of the box at his own risk. If a pitcher elects to pitch while the batter has stepped out there is nothing the batter can do but accept the result of the pitch. The only time a batter has the explicit right to step out of the box is with the permission of the home plate umpire via the use of a time. However this is rarely used unless a pitcher is already come set or is taking signs from the catcher. Between pitches is more of a gentleman’s agreement that a pitcher will allow the hitter to go through their pre pitch gyrations. So you are absolutely wrong in saying that you should be granted this pre pitch time to do anything other than wait for the pitch to be delivered. This whole argument is stale and misguided and does not come from any actual line of reasoning.
I can’t think of one recent instance where any pitcher has thrown a pitch with the batter having a foot out of the box between pitches taking practice cuts. But hey let’s use that as precedence lol
So we’re going to be super technical in a video game about a rule that truly doesn’t exist in the real sport just because we don’t like that people disrupt our pitching but on the converse can’t understand we’re disrupting their hitting?
Again sounds like a bunch of sore losers to me. But hey to each their own.
The rule is the rule. Just because a pitcher “allows” the hitter to do those things doesn’t mean the hitter is “entitled” to do those things. Greg Maddux was notorious for making pitches when batters were doing those things and batters soon realized this and began asking for time prior to pitches to avoid this from happening.
So you avoided my question would you rather me be granted time for as long as I want between every pitch? Or would you rather me just spam r2 here or there.
You’re missing my whole point here r2 is a mechanic that allows the batter to play the game the way he would in real life. Could I also call time? Yes I could but that’s just going to slow the game down way more and ruin my own rhythm. In real life if I step out of the box and you try to pitch I can notice that and still try to step in and swing....
There’s no way to make a video game where I can step out of the box and take a breath and you can pitch the ball while I’m out and on my end I can step back in and try and swing. So they found a happy medium for both sides and the side that’s upset they can’t blow through every single game in 10 minutes just doesn’t want to see that. It’s borderline asinine.
You do not understand the exploit because it sounds like you do not you R2 to exploit you use it one players that QP. That is not the problem, maybe you do use it as an exploit. If a player can R2 then let me step off the mound as much as I want. Why should you be aloud to hold push spam R2 while I am starting my windup and not allow me to pitch then the pitch is way out of the zone or down the middle. Why should the hitter have an advantage over the pitcher. The solution is let me step off the mound if you are holding pushing spaming R2. I should be able to step off the mound as much as I want. The game only allows you 3 step offs an inning..
No the first time someone does it to me I slow down and don’t pitch for a while. I make them wait. Eventually they just stop spamming it because they get tired of me slowing the game down so much their waiting 30-40 seconds for each pitch.
The problem is you guys are in such a rush to blow through every game you refuse to slow down and make the other guy who’s slow playing you to upset you upset himself. I’ve used r2 spammers quit because I pitch so slow. It’s all in how you choose to play the game. If you dislike r2 it’s because you’re playing too fast in the majority of instances. Plain and simple.
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
Except that R2 is being used as a weapon against... pitching. Which is a required element of gameplay. Using R2 in this weaponised context is optional and the pitcher has no equivalent because the pitcher has to pitch. The pitcher has to pitch and being f-ed with by a game feature that's being used in an unsportsmanlike way doesn't sound like 'exploiting each other's weaknesses' but more like the one-sided exploit it actually is.
The best way would be to allow me to step off the mound as much as I want and you can R2 all you want.
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
Except that R2 is being used as a weapon against... pitching. Which is a required element of gameplay. Using R2 in this weaponised context is optional and the pitcher has no equivalent because the pitcher has to pitch. The pitcher has to pitch and being f-ed with by a game feature that's being used in an unsportsmanlike way doesn't sound like 'exploiting each other's weaknesses' but more like the one-sided exploit it actually is.
The best way would be to allow me to step off the mound as much as I want and you can R2 all you want.
Careful with the 'you' because I ain't using R2
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
Except that R2 is being used as a weapon against... pitching. Which is a required element of gameplay. Using R2 in this weaponised context is optional and the pitcher has no equivalent because the pitcher has to pitch. The pitcher has to pitch and being f-ed with by a game feature that's being used in an unsportsmanlike way doesn't sound like 'exploiting each other's weaknesses' but more like the one-sided exploit it actually is.
Not sure where you guys are it in this debate....and forgive me for not reading the previous 50 posts on this thread.
I would consider the unrealistic quick pitching as an exploit against hitters. At least, for me it is. I am far from pro at this game, and I would like more than 0.4 seconds in-between pitches to get my thoughts and finger placement together. So, if I face a guy who likes to throw 5 pitches in 12 seconds. Then I will use what tool are at my disposal. I don't abuse R2 anymore than my opponent repeatedly balks. I can only call time once, if it even lets me at all (which is also unrealistic).
I understand both sides of the argument here, so I wont go back and forth with anyone. If you excel when quick pitching, then I understand your gripe.....but understand mine when you balk 30 times a game.
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Quick pitch should be disallowed unless runners are on base. Pitching from the stretch should be an option at all times.
Online is only a homerun fest anyways, so this would solve most of the issue...
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Now wait a minute here, "a batter needs to have a way to slow down a pitcher" ??? A batter has absolutely no control over when a pitcher is to pitch.
R2 should not be allowed to stop anything, if you want time, call time, that is real baseball. R2 should still be able to display info, but not stop the pitchers meter.
In principle, I agree with you, but there are people who pitch as fast as they can, and there absolutely needs to be a mechanism to neutralize that.
You are allowed to have your opinion, but I disagree. If they want to pitch as fast as possible, so what, doesn't bother me.
Well, it’s not all about you.
Nor is it all about you. So fact is you can't make every one happy.
True, you can’t. However, what you’re suggesting puts one side at a distinct disadvantage. Why should one player get to dictate the pace of the game?
Because in baseball the pitcher does dictate the pace, allowing R2 to stop the play is not the solution. Some pitchers like to work fast, see Wade Miley for example, many others don't. In real life it's best to work at different paces to keep the batter uneasy. But no matter how you slice it, in real baseball pace is dictated by pitcher. All a batter can do is call for time, that is also in the game. Balks on, help elevate some of the issues about coming set, but if the batter is in the box, it is no longer his control and to expect the pitcher to throw when he is ready is unrealistic. Baseball is a game of adjustments, when I play people online, I know I need to adjust to how I am going to be pitched. Just as I know my opponent will steal a lot, hit and run a lot, bunt a lot, way more than playing the CPU.
Except for the fact that the batter can only call time once in an at-bat. The problem with people that pitch so fast is that with most pitchers, it creates completely unrealistic movement. How is this so hard to understand?
The batter may be able to call time once but he can step his foot outside the box at any time during the at bat before the pitcher becomes set, or before they start their wind up.
Just watch a little league game. The kids step out every pitch and look over at the coach for a sign.
I’m talking about in the game, not real life.
The game is simulated based on the real life sport... the kids look over at the coach because the coach tells them what pitch to expect. People use r2 to give themselves time to think about what’s coming next. I use it and analyze the previous pitches and by the 4th or 5th pitch of an at bat I can usually smash a good good perfect perfect just by guessing which pitch your going to throw next let alone the location,
Anyone whining about r2 use is literally just upset they can’t quick pitch you and give you no time to catch on to what pitches you’re throwing most often and which locations you frequent with each pitch. Not just from at bat to at bat but literally within each at bat.
It’s part of real life baseball so it’s part of the game. If you don’t like it go play backyard baseball lol
What are you even talking about? There are plenty of people who just spam it to disrupt the pitcher. That has nothing to do with real baseball.
If I’m playing baseball and you’re fast pitching me I will step out of the box between every pitch and take some practice swings. Readjust my gloves and elbow guard etc. real baseball the batter can slow the pitcher down in many ways. He just can’t slow the game down to the point it’s boring as hell for the crowd and the game drags on 5 hours.
You realize a real baseball game takes an average of over 3 hours, and your bitching about having to play a game for 30-45 minutes because the other guy doesn’t want to be fast pitched all night. Get out of here and stop being a baby.
Dude, what are you talking about? You’re trying to argue with me and you don’t even seem to understand my stance.
I understand perfectly fine. You’re upset people prevent you from quick pitching and spam the r2 button at random [censored] times. But you don’t seem to understand it’s the exact equivalent of the batter stepping out of the box taking practice swings between every single pitch. These players are intentionally throwing off your rhythm to improve their own chances at winning the game and you’re upset over it but can’t understand how much of a baby it makes you. You’re literally just upset you can’t rush through the game and someone else is enjoying it how they want to play. Sad
Except I’ve been making the exact opposite argument. Idiot.
Then you’re arguing with yourself over nothing. You say I don’t understand so I explain the opposite side to my argument and then you say you’re arguing the exact opposite which would mean you’re arguing my side. So you don’t understand? Or I don’t understand? I’m starting to think you don’t.
If you’re not upset that people are slowing down your fast pitching or disrupting your rhythm with the r2 button then you have no reason to want the r2 mechanic gone. So no I don’t understand what exactly is your grievance here if you’re not upset by anything the r2 mechanic causes
️Jesus Christ, you’re stupid. You need to go back and read what I’ve actually said. You appear to be confounding what I’ve said with someone else.
Lol you’re talking about how it’s not real life it’s a game so the pitcher should be able to just blow pitches up there whenever he want.
You’re upset that when you start your pitch timer I can still press r2 and pause it.
But the reality is your pitcher is not in his wind up so it’s just like me calling time out between every pitch.
In real baseball 99% of the time the ump allows it so in game it is allowed. R2 is not the broken mechanic.The broken mechanic is the pitching meter. If I press r2 your whole pitch should reset. You guys are attacking the wrong mechanic because it’s one you don’t use or fully understand. But I’m the ignorant one. Go fogure
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
Except that R2 is being used as a weapon against... pitching. Which is a required element of gameplay. Using R2 in this weaponised context is optional and the pitcher has no equivalent because the pitcher has to pitch. The pitcher has to pitch and being f-ed with by a game feature that's being used in an unsportsmanlike way doesn't sound like 'exploiting each other's weaknesses' but more like the one-sided exploit it actually is.
Not sure where you guys are it in this debate....and forgive me for not reading the previous 50 posts on this thread.
I would consider the unrealistic quick pitching as an exploit against hitters. At least, for me it is. I am far from pro at this game, and I would like more than 0.4 seconds in-between pitches to get my thoughts and finger placement together. So, if I face a guy who likes to throw 5 pitches in 12 seconds. Then I will use what tool are at my disposal. I don't abuse R2 anymore than my opponent repeatedly balks. I can only call time once, if it even lets me at all (which is also unrealistic).
I understand both sides of the argument here, so I wont go back and forth with anyone. If you excel when quick pitching, then I understand your gripe.....but understand mine when you balk 30 times a game.
The problem is you can press r2 mid meter and freeze them and make them throw bad pitches. So they’re mad at the r2 mechanic when the reality is they need to be mad at the pitching meters, and a mechanic that allows the meter to restart when r2 is pressed should be implemented into the game. But since r2 makes the game harder or less fun for them they just want it totally taken out of the game screw the other side that doesn’t play like them.
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Now wait a minute here, "a batter needs to have a way to slow down a pitcher" ??? A batter has absolutely no control over when a pitcher is to pitch.
R2 should not be allowed to stop anything, if you want time, call time, that is real baseball. R2 should still be able to display info, but not stop the pitchers meter.
In principle, I agree with you, but there are people who pitch as fast as they can, and there absolutely needs to be a mechanism to neutralize that.
You are allowed to have your opinion, but I disagree. If they want to pitch as fast as possible, so what, doesn't bother me.
Well, it’s not all about you.
Nor is it all about you. So fact is you can't make every one happy.
True, you can’t. However, what you’re suggesting puts one side at a distinct disadvantage. Why should one player get to dictate the pace of the game?
Because in baseball the pitcher does dictate the pace, allowing R2 to stop the play is not the solution. Some pitchers like to work fast, see Wade Miley for example, many others don't. In real life it's best to work at different paces to keep the batter uneasy. But no matter how you slice it, in real baseball pace is dictated by pitcher. All a batter can do is call for time, that is also in the game. Balks on, help elevate some of the issues about coming set, but if the batter is in the box, it is no longer his control and to expect the pitcher to throw when he is ready is unrealistic. Baseball is a game of adjustments, when I play people online, I know I need to adjust to how I am going to be pitched. Just as I know my opponent will steal a lot, hit and run a lot, bunt a lot, way more than playing the CPU.
Except for the fact that the batter can only call time once in an at-bat. The problem with people that pitch so fast is that with most pitchers, it creates completely unrealistic movement. How is this so hard to understand?
The batter may be able to call time once but he can step his foot outside the box at any time during the at bat before the pitcher becomes set, or before they start their wind up.
Just watch a little league game. The kids step out every pitch and look over at the coach for a sign.
I’m talking about in the game, not real life.
The game is simulated based on the real life sport... the kids look over at the coach because the coach tells them what pitch to expect. People use r2 to give themselves time to think about what’s coming next. I use it and analyze the previous pitches and by the 4th or 5th pitch of an at bat I can usually smash a good good perfect perfect just by guessing which pitch your going to throw next let alone the location,
Anyone whining about r2 use is literally just upset they can’t quick pitch you and give you no time to catch on to what pitches you’re throwing most often and which locations you frequent with each pitch. Not just from at bat to at bat but literally within each at bat.
It’s part of real life baseball so it’s part of the game. If you don’t like it go play backyard baseball lol
What are you even talking about? There are plenty of people who just spam it to disrupt the pitcher. That has nothing to do with real baseball.
If I’m playing baseball and you’re fast pitching me I will step out of the box between every pitch and take some practice swings. Readjust my gloves and elbow guard etc. real baseball the batter can slow the pitcher down in many ways. He just can’t slow the game down to the point it’s boring as hell for the crowd and the game drags on 5 hours.
You realize a real baseball game takes an average of over 3 hours, and your bitching about having to play a game for 30-45 minutes because the other guy doesn’t want to be fast pitched all night. Get out of here and stop being a baby.
Dude, what are you talking about? You’re trying to argue with me and you don’t even seem to understand my stance.
I understand perfectly fine. You’re upset people prevent you from quick pitching and spam the r2 button at random [censored] times. But you don’t seem to understand it’s the exact equivalent of the batter stepping out of the box taking practice swings between every single pitch. These players are intentionally throwing off your rhythm to improve their own chances at winning the game and you’re upset over it but can’t understand how much of a baby it makes you. You’re literally just upset you can’t rush through the game and someone else is enjoying it how they want to play. Sad
Except I’ve been making the exact opposite argument. Idiot.
Then you’re arguing with yourself over nothing. You say I don’t understand so I explain the opposite side to my argument and then you say you’re arguing the exact opposite which would mean you’re arguing my side. So you don’t understand? Or I don’t understand? I’m starting to think you don’t.
If you’re not upset that people are slowing down your fast pitching or disrupting your rhythm with the r2 button then you have no reason to want the r2 mechanic gone. So no I don’t understand what exactly is your grievance here if you’re not upset by anything the r2 mechanic causes
️Jesus Christ, you’re stupid. You need to go back and read what I’ve actually said. You appear to be confounding what I’ve said with someone else.
Lol you’re talking about how it’s not real life it’s a game so the pitcher should be able to just blow pitches up there whenever he want.
You’re upset that when you start your pitch timer I can still press r2 and pause it.
But the reality is your pitcher is not in his wind up so it’s just like me calling time out between every pitch.
In real baseball 99% of the time the ump allows it so in game it is allowed. R2 is not the broken mechanic.The broken mechanic is the pitching meter. If I press r2 your whole pitch should reset. You guys are attacking the wrong mechanic because it’s one you don’t use or fully understand. But I’m the ignorant one. Go fogure
I never said that. Once again, go back and read what I’ve said.
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As a pitcher......holding R2 only disrupts quick pitchers. By default, I usually take a second before starting my next pitch, and by the time I'm ready, the little icon has already disappeared. I don't think it should be allowed every pitch, but for now it is, so adapt. Keep in mind, I have played opponents who use it a lot and probably with bad intentions, but I have not played an opponent that I would say "abuses" it.
As a hitter......if you want to quick pitch to throw me off my best game, then I will hold R2 to throw you off yours. Exploiting each other's weaknesses.....sounds like competition to me. I use it for information 90% of the time....especially when there's a new pitcher. But I also use it to slow people down....never with the intent to mess up timing on an individual pitch.
Exactly. Glad someone gets it. It’s just like real baseball but it’s a video game and this is the best way they could figure out how to make both sides happy.
Except that R2 is being used as a weapon against... pitching. Which is a required element of gameplay. Using R2 in this weaponised context is optional and the pitcher has no equivalent because the pitcher has to pitch. The pitcher has to pitch and being f-ed with by a game feature that's being used in an unsportsmanlike way doesn't sound like 'exploiting each other's weaknesses' but more like the one-sided exploit it actually is.
The best way would be to allow me to step off the mound as much as I want and you can R2 all you want.
So instead of fixing the broken pitching mechanic we’re going to take the hitting mechanic out of the game to make all the quick pitchers happy? Makes perfect sense.
As someone who plays both ways, I quick pitch and use r2 against it. R2 isn’t the problem. The frozen pitching meters and windups are. When the batter presses r2 your pitcher should automatically reset whether you want to or not. Easiest way to make both sides happy
