Is a monitor truly worth it?
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@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
Response time and input (display) lag are two different things. You won’t be able to find a monitor with a display lag below 5ms
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546k
input lag on this monitor is 2.3msOne thing you have to remember there is PS5, this game I should say, runs at 60FPS. That monitor has 2.3ms IL at 240hz native resolution. So hooked up to a PC via Display Port. HDMI on a PS5 at 60FPS it has a 12.4ms IL. Which is par for the course. Dont be fooled by those other numbers. look at it compared to what you are using it for. 60FPS games the fastest you are gonna get is around 9.5ms. And 9.5ms to 12.5ms arent really gonna be able to tell the difference.
Already addressed this in another post. even at 12.3 ms its still better than most tvs. Also I can tell a 5ms difference but that might be bc I only ever game on monitors.
True. And Response Time is just a marketing gimmick. Almost no monitor has the Response Time it claims. Especially the ones that claim under 4ms. And it is just a color thing anyways. GTG and how fast a pixel can change colors and prevent ghosting and such.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
Response time and input (display) lag are two different things. You won’t be able to find a monitor with a display lag below 5ms
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546k
input lag on this monitor is 2.3msOne thing you have to remember there is PS5, this game I should say, runs at 60FPS. That monitor has 2.3ms IL at 240hz native resolution. So hooked up to a PC via Display Port. HDMI on a PS5 at 60FPS it has a 12.4ms IL. Which is par for the course. Dont be fooled by those other numbers. look at it compared to what you are using it for. 60FPS games the fastest you are gonna get is around 9.5ms. And 9.5ms to 12.5ms arent really gonna be able to tell the difference.
Already addressed this in another post. even at 12.3 ms its still better than most tvs. Also I can tell a 5ms difference but that might be bc I only ever game on monitors.
True. And Response Time is just a marketing gimmick. Almost no monitor has the Response Time it claims. Especially the ones that claim under 4ms. And it is just a color thing anyways. GTG and how fast a pixel can change colors and prevent ghosting and such.
I wouldnt say its a gimmick bc response time is real. its just theres no single standard to measure it so every manufacturers numbers are different. Its fine to use as a comparison technique as long as youre comparing two devices from the same brand.
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@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
Response time and input (display) lag are two different things. You won’t be able to find a monitor with a display lag below 5ms
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546k
input lag on this monitor is 2.3msOne thing you have to remember there is PS5, this game I should say, runs at 60FPS. That monitor has 2.3ms IL at 240hz native resolution. So hooked up to a PC via Display Port. HDMI on a PS5 at 60FPS it has a 12.4ms IL. Which is par for the course. Dont be fooled by those other numbers. look at it compared to what you are using it for. 60FPS games the fastest you are gonna get is around 9.5ms. And 9.5ms to 12.5ms arent really gonna be able to tell the difference.
Already addressed this in another post. even at 12.3 ms its still better than most tvs. Also I can tell a 5ms difference but that might be bc I only ever game on monitors.
True. And Response Time is just a marketing gimmick. Almost no monitor has the Response Time it claims. Especially the ones that claim under 4ms. And it is just a color thing anyways. GTG and how fast a pixel can change colors and prevent ghosting and such.
I wouldnt say its a gimmick bc response time is real. its just theres no single standard to measure it so every manufacturers numbers are different. Its fine to use as a comparison technique as long as youre comparing two devices from the same brand.
Yes but for what we look for with this game it means nothing. And by gimmick I mean what they print on their boxes. They are always incorrect. Just there to catch peoples eye thinking it means the Monitor is faster or something when in reality it does nothing speed wise. Just helps prevent ghosting when the monitor is fast.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
Response time and input (display) lag are two different things. You won’t be able to find a monitor with a display lag below 5ms
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546k
input lag on this monitor is 2.3msOne thing you have to remember there is PS5, this game I should say, runs at 60FPS. That monitor has 2.3ms IL at 240hz native resolution. So hooked up to a PC via Display Port. HDMI on a PS5 at 60FPS it has a 12.4ms IL. Which is par for the course. Dont be fooled by those other numbers. look at it compared to what you are using it for. 60FPS games the fastest you are gonna get is around 9.5ms. And 9.5ms to 12.5ms arent really gonna be able to tell the difference.
Already addressed this in another post. even at 12.3 ms its still better than most tvs. Also I can tell a 5ms difference but that might be bc I only ever game on monitors.
True. And Response Time is just a marketing gimmick. Almost no monitor has the Response Time it claims. Especially the ones that claim under 4ms. And it is just a color thing anyways. GTG and how fast a pixel can change colors and prevent ghosting and such.
I wouldnt say its a gimmick bc response time is real. its just theres no single standard to measure it so every manufacturers numbers are different. Its fine to use as a comparison technique as long as youre comparing two devices from the same brand.
Yes but for what we look for with this game it means nothing. And by gimmick I mean what they print on their boxes. They are always incorrect. Just there to catch peoples eye thinking it means the Monitor is faster or something when in reality it does nothing speed wise. Just helps prevent ghosting when the monitor is fast.
PS: You are speaking like a PC gamer lol. I also play any other games on my PC. I have an RTX 3080. Consoles dont use all the stuff we use on PC. Response Time and crazy low input lag isnt really a thing on console.
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@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
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@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
q80 input lag is 10 ms and 100% response time is 17.8ms. both pretty good for a tv but its also a premium tv.
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@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
q80 input lag is 10 ms and 100% response time is 17.8ms. both pretty good for a tv but its also a premium tv.
Rtings shows it at 5.5ms input lag for 4k. But yea I just bought it a few months ago. Good TV for gaming.
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@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
q80 input lag is 10 ms and 100% response time is 17.8ms. both pretty good for a tv but its also a premium tv.
Rtings shows it at 5.5ms for 4k. But yea I just bought it a few months ago. Good TV for gaming.
- where? bc both of these numbers I gave you are from rtings 2. most people dont play in 4k so it would be better to compare 1080 specs
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@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
q80 input lag is 10 ms and 100% response time is 17.8ms. both pretty good for a tv but its also a premium tv.
Rtings shows it at 5.5ms input lag for 4k. But yea I just bought it a few months ago. Good TV for gaming.
oh i see what youre looking at. thats 4k at 120hz. the show doesnt support 120hz
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@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
q80 input lag is 10 ms and 100% response time is 17.8ms. both pretty good for a tv but its also a premium tv.
Rtings shows it at 5.5ms for 4k. But yea I just bought it a few months ago. Good TV for gaming.
- where? bc both of these numbers I gave you are from rtings 2. most people dont play in 4k so it would be better to compare 1080 specs
Oh well I was looking at 120hz when I bought it. It's 5.5 4k 120hz. But yea 9.8 it looks like in 1080p or 4k at 60. I'm not sure why you would buy such a TV and not use 4k though lol.
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@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@magicbush86_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
My 65" q80t says otherwise. On rtings it's at 5ms.
q80 input lag is 10 ms and 100% response time is 17.8ms. both pretty good for a tv but its also a premium tv.
Rtings shows it at 5.5ms for 4k. But yea I just bought it a few months ago. Good TV for gaming.
- where? bc both of these numbers I gave you are from rtings 2. most people dont play in 4k so it would be better to compare 1080 specs
Oh well I was looking at 120hz when I bought it. It's 5.5 4k 120hz. But yea 9.8 it looks like in 1080p or 4k at 60. I'm not sure why you would buy such a TV and not use 4k though lol.
well if you have a tv like that, that performs that well then yes you should play in 4k. most people dont have premium tvs like that
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On my TV with game mode I never got higher than Division Series. Once I got a BenQ monitor my game increased dramatically & I am now a WS player.
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I went from a 12 year old flat screen TVs with no game mode to a new monitor this year.
Result: my online BA is up about 20 points.
Your mileage may vary though.
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@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
Response time and input (display) lag are two different things. You won’t be able to find a monitor with a display lag below 5ms
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546k
input lag on this monitor is 2.3msOne thing you have to remember there is PS5, this game I should say, runs at 60FPS. That monitor has 2.3ms IL at 240hz native resolution. So hooked up to a PC via Display Port. HDMI on a PS5 at 60FPS it has a 12.4ms IL. Which is par for the course. Dont be fooled by those other numbers. look at it compared to what you are using it for. 60FPS games the fastest you are gonna get is around 9.5ms. And 9.5ms to 12.5ms arent really gonna be able to tell the difference.
Already addressed this in another post. even at 12.3 ms its still better than most tvs. Also I can tell a 5ms difference but that might be bc I only ever game on monitors.
True. And Response Time is just a marketing gimmick. Almost no monitor has the Response Time it claims. Especially the ones that claim under 4ms. And it is just a color thing anyways. GTG and how fast a pixel can change colors and prevent ghosting and such.
I wouldnt say its a gimmick bc response time is real. its just theres no single standard to measure it so every manufacturers numbers are different. Its fine to use as a comparison technique as long as youre comparing two devices from the same brand.
Yes but for what we look for with this game it means nothing. And by gimmick I mean what they print on their boxes. They are always incorrect. Just there to catch peoples eye thinking it means the Monitor is faster or something when in reality it does nothing speed wise. Just helps prevent ghosting when the monitor is fast.
Would GTG not help with breaking pitches in this game? Something that is already somewhat blurry would become much worse without a good response time no? I can’t think of any other impact it would have but I assumed it helped with that because the colours are changing with the break the entire time it’s coming
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You guys sound like you’re speaking another language to me. I play on my TV which is 10+ years old and I’m about a 700 rating player in RS. Would monitor or new TV really make much of a difference? I do also have pretty fast internet and play on a PS5 I figure that has to play a role as well, no?
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@charterbus_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@chuckclc_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@ny_giants4_life said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
@hikes83_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
Depends how old your TV is. Most newer TV models that support game mode rival or are close to monitors from a display lag perspective. If you have an old TV, you’ll find that the difference is night and day. My Tv was 8 years old when I bought my monitor. Made a huge difference
I dont think this is true, most newer tvs in game mode are still in the 10-15ms range while a good monitor youre looking at 1-2 ms response time. pretty big difference
Response time and input (display) lag are two different things. You won’t be able to find a monitor with a display lag below 5ms
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/benq/zowie-xl2546k
input lag on this monitor is 2.3msOne thing you have to remember there is PS5, this game I should say, runs at 60FPS. That monitor has 2.3ms IL at 240hz native resolution. So hooked up to a PC via Display Port. HDMI on a PS5 at 60FPS it has a 12.4ms IL. Which is par for the course. Dont be fooled by those other numbers. look at it compared to what you are using it for. 60FPS games the fastest you are gonna get is around 9.5ms. And 9.5ms to 12.5ms arent really gonna be able to tell the difference.
Already addressed this in another post. even at 12.3 ms its still better than most tvs. Also I can tell a 5ms difference but that might be bc I only ever game on monitors.
True. And Response Time is just a marketing gimmick. Almost no monitor has the Response Time it claims. Especially the ones that claim under 4ms. And it is just a color thing anyways. GTG and how fast a pixel can change colors and prevent ghosting and such.
I wouldnt say its a gimmick bc response time is real. its just theres no single standard to measure it so every manufacturers numbers are different. Its fine to use as a comparison technique as long as youre comparing two devices from the same brand.
Yes but for what we look for with this game it means nothing. And by gimmick I mean what they print on their boxes. They are always incorrect. Just there to catch peoples eye thinking it means the Monitor is faster or something when in reality it does nothing speed wise. Just helps prevent ghosting when the monitor is fast.
Would GTG not help with breaking pitches in this game? Something that is already somewhat blurry would become much worse without a good response time no? I can’t think of any other impact it would have but I assumed it helped with that because the colours are changing with the break the entire time it’s coming
it does help, at least for me. If I try to play on my tv I can see a big difference in my ability to pick up breaking balls.
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@timshady10_psn said in Is a monitor truly worth it?:
You guys sound like you’re speaking another language to me. I play on my TV which is 10+ years old and I’m about a 700 rating player in RS. Would monitor or new TV really make much of a difference? I do also have pretty fast internet and play on a PS5 I figure that has to play a role as well, no?
dude if you switch to a monitor or a high end tv you'll see a huge difference. Upgrading, could potentially make the difference to get to WS
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