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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
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Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
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@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
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@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times for offending you and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
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@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
Maybe you should read back on your comments a little bit while wearing your objective hat this time. But like I said it's all good man I really don't care that much.
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
Unfortunately my grandfather who was the son of Dutch immigrants passed years ago when I was 9. My mother never knew her grandparents and didn't have really any connections to her ancestors. So unfortunately we don't have any connections to the Netherlands.
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@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
Unfortunately my grandfather who was the son of Dutch immigrants passed years ago when I was 9. My mother never knew her grandparents and didn't have really any connections to her ancestors. So unfortunately we don't have any connections to the Netherlands.
Sorry to hear that. Ever visited or thought about visiting? We don't have breathtaking scenery, but our cities are well worth it.
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
Unfortunately my grandfather who was the son of Dutch immigrants passed years ago when I was 9. My mother never knew her grandparents and didn't have really any connections to her ancestors. So unfortunately we don't have any connections to the Netherlands.
Sorry to hear that. Ever visited or thought about visiting? We don't have breathtaking scenery, but our cities are well worth it.
Europe is on my bucket list and Amsterdam is one of the cities I would love to visit. I will probably have to wait till the kids are out of college (my youngest is a 10 yr old) so it might be a while. I read you were trying to move to the US. Where abouts are you looking to move to?
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@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
Unfortunately my grandfather who was the son of Dutch immigrants passed years ago when I was 9. My mother never knew her grandparents and didn't have really any connections to her ancestors. So unfortunately we don't have any connections to the Netherlands.
Sorry to hear that. Ever visited or thought about visiting? We don't have breathtaking scenery, but our cities are well worth it.
Europe is on my bucket list and Amsterdam is one of the cities I would love to visit. I will probably have to wait till the kids are out of college (my youngest is a 10 yr old) so it might be a while. I read you were trying to move to the US. Where abouts are you looking to move to?
Amsterdam is a sight that's for sure. Lots of things to see and experience lol. My fiancee lives in San Antonio, Texas so that's where I'm headed first. We've been discussing moving to San Diego down the line, we've spent a fair amount of time there and both love it. But first things first and I like Texas as well.
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Can you do a Freddie Freeman one?
Freddie for team USA or Team Canada?
Team Canada please and thank you
Does anyone know if you can post actual images into the comments, or is that not allowed?
Unfortunately, it’s not possible.
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
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@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
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Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
Unfortunately my grandfather who was the son of Dutch immigrants passed years ago when I was 9. My mother never knew her grandparents and didn't have really any connections to her ancestors. So unfortunately we don't have any connections to the Netherlands.
Sorry to hear that. Ever visited or thought about visiting? We don't have breathtaking scenery, but our cities are well worth it.
Europe is on my bucket list and Amsterdam is one of the cities I would love to visit. I will probably have to wait till the kids are out of college (my youngest is a 10 yr old) so it might be a while. I read you were trying to move to the US. Where abouts are you looking to move to?
Amsterdam is a sight that's for sure. Lots of things to see and experience lol. My fiancee lives in San Antonio, Texas so that's where I'm headed first. We've been discussing moving to San Diego down the line, we've spent a fair amount of time there and both love it. But first things first and I like Texas as well.
I live about an hour north of San Diego in a town called Temecula. The weather is fantastic but we certainly pay for it. I think San Antonio is a great place for outdoor activities and has a pretty mild climate. I wish you well on your travels hopefully you can be reunited with your fiance soon.
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Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
Unfortunately my grandfather who was the son of Dutch immigrants passed years ago when I was 9. My mother never knew her grandparents and didn't have really any connections to her ancestors. So unfortunately we don't have any connections to the Netherlands.
Sorry to hear that. Ever visited or thought about visiting? We don't have breathtaking scenery, but our cities are well worth it.
Europe is on my bucket list and Amsterdam is one of the cities I would love to visit. I will probably have to wait till the kids are out of college (my youngest is a 10 yr old) so it might be a while. I read you were trying to move to the US. Where abouts are you looking to move to?
Amsterdam is a sight that's for sure. Lots of things to see and experience lol. My fiancee lives in San Antonio, Texas so that's where I'm headed first. We've been discussing moving to San Diego down the line, we've spent a fair amount of time there and both love it. But first things first and I like Texas as well.
I live about an hour north of San Diego in a town called Temecula. The weather is fantastic but we certainly pay for it. I think San Antonio is a great place for outdoor activities and has a pretty mild climate. I wish you well on your travels hopefully you can be reunited with your fiance soon.
Ah awesome man, I like the whole area pretty much except for LA. I have no desire whatsoever to live there lol. And yeah CA is expensive, but I don't really mind. I rather pay more and live happily than have lots of money in the bank while living in a place where I feel meh. Me and my fiancee worked and studied hard to be able to afford it, so I don't mind the high living cost and taxes and so on.
San Antonio is nice but the climate is not really mild in my experience. Maybe it's because I'm Dutch and not used to real heat, but I've experienced a few Texas summers and they are absolutely brutal. Either way thank you man, I appreciate you. -
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
Wtf? You are acting the exact way you are accusing him of acting....this post is very strange
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@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times for offending you and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
like i said before no point...he is better than everyone and always right...guy has issues
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@squishiesgirl said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times for offending you and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
like i said before no point...he is better than everyone and always right...guy has issues
Says my biggest stalker. Time you got laid, maybe you'd get off me.
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@squishiesgirl said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times for offending you and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
like i said before no point...he is better than everyone and always right...guy has issues
Says my biggest stalker. Time you got laid, maybe you'd get off me.
Lmao i haven't posted in here in weeks but I'm your stalker? Lol get over yourself..just amazes me that everytime i do stop in i see you being an a..cant curse ..to someone
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@squishiesgirl said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@squishiesgirl said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times for offending you and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
like i said before no point...he is better than everyone and always right...guy has issues
Says my biggest stalker. Time you got laid, maybe you'd get off me.
Lmao i haven't posted in here in weeks but I'm your stalker? Lol get over yourself..just amazes me that everytime i do stop in i see you being an a..cant curse ..to someone
Yeah I get the curse word you're hinting at, it's all good. You won't let an opportunity go by to shovel some sh.... can't curse... my way though, that's why I said what I said.
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I remember my dad took me to the first one in Puerto Rico. We had a blast.
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@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@squishiesgirl said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@squishiesgirl said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@EvylShaun said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
@raesONE said in World Baseball Classic:
@Bozzman0109 said in World Baseball Classic:
Wow who would have thought arguing over the Dutch flag would have given me some insight as to why I argue so much and always think I am right. I’m 1/4 Dutch on my Mother’s side but do not have any knowledge of that part of my family tree. Other than making peach cobbler in a Dutch oven (I’m not even sure if that’s even a “Dutch thing”) I didn’t think I had type of culture from that part of my family. Now that I am enlightened that Dutch are known for “always being right” and for making a big stink out of everything. I can now tell my wife “ Honey it’s not my fault I’m Dutch and couldn’t help myself”. I appreciate learning yet another excuse to blame my bad behaivor on. Now I just need something to blame my bad spelling on.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not
. Either way I just wanted to point out to @EvylShaun that I do not appreciate being lectured about my own heritage and culture. I think that's pretty self explaining and everyone would feel the same in my position, despite his fiancee's parents being Dutch.I am serious about being 1/4 Dutch but I am being sarcastic about blaming my behavior on my genetics. From what I gather Dutch are direct and straightforward in conversations. Typically the goal is to be helpful not hurtful. Other cultures may interpret that directness negatively and can be put off. Typically the comments you make fall into this stereotype and if readers will brush aside their emotions for one second they will realize most of the information and suggestions you make are helpful.
Spot on, we are also often perceived arrogant which is also a result of the directness. We speak out whenever we don't like something, but we also speak out when we do like something. We're just outspoken in general, but me personally I am hardly ever out to intentionally insult anyone. If that's my intention, you'll know for sure lol. Theres hardly anyone on this forum that I strongly dislike, 1 or 2 guys maybe, but that's it. I don't really have any beef with @EvylShaun either, I've seen him around here for a while and never had issues with him. Just because we knocked heads over this also doesn't mean we will continue to do so, or at least I won't.
Anyway, does the Dutch relative in your family still have contact with home base?
I wouldn't say we knocked heads. We were debating. You took it personally/got personal, so I simply stepped away as that wasn't my desired outcome. I believe that's where you wanted things to go anyways based off of your replies.
As far as I'm concerned the conversation is over and that's where everything will remain.
Fine, be salty over it I don't really care. You were in the wrong and I let it slide, willing to set aside the differences. If you don't, I won't lose any sleep over it. But you really gotta get off your high horse buddy.
I'm..... I'm not salty? Lol.
Im not sure what your problem is exactly, but you've literally personally attacked me multiple times and I've been nothing but cordial, apologized a couple of times for offending you and wished you the best. Then you say I'm on a high horse?
There's an analogy about a pot and a kettle somewhere in there.....
like i said before no point...he is better than everyone and always right...guy has issues
Says my biggest stalker. Time you got laid, maybe you'd get off me.
Lmao i haven't posted in here in weeks but I'm your stalker? Lol get over yourself..just amazes me that everytime i do stop in i see you being an a..cant curse ..to someone
Yeah I get the curse word you're hinting at, it's all good. You won't let an opportunity go by to shovel some sh.... can't curse... my way though, that's why I said what I said.
Well when your acting that way EVERYTIME i come in here it's kind of hard to avoid...be a better person
