How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?
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@The_Joneser said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@PScrabro said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
I'm 39 years old and use zone without issues. I do fine against CPU. and my struggles in H2H are usually due to I'm cursed pitching in the ninth inning and blow the lead at least 50% of the time. I dont think age has anything to do with hitting... any age will need a little time to get used to it. Can you actually use directional in H2H matches, and how does that even work?? Isn't directional only swing on timing???
Directional is mostly timing, but it's also built around "influencing" your swing, and choosing the right type of influence varies greatly depending on both the pitch type and the player/card doing the swinging (and those things alter your timing windows). I think there's a misconception that moving the stick corresponds with where the pitch is located, as in you must move the stick to the right to hit a pitch on the inside to a left-handed hitter, but it's less about location than it is about "type"; for example, in my experience, anyway, Lou Brock does better by pulling that inside pitch (stick right) but Rod Carew has more success with an "inside out" approach, and can dump that inside pitch into left-center by swinging with the stick to the left (also need to swing later).
It really took a long time to find the right players and learn how they hit best. I couldn't hit anything with some of the guys others love... Eric Davis was a strikeout machine (low vision) even with good timing, and I got nothing but soft contact with Kaline, but Vlad and Brett solved my power problem.
Still, you're not going to hit the down-and-away slider 500 feet to center with directional, so PCI definitely gives you the edge with the ability to hit anything out, whereas I need to pick my pitches. The ball does not need to be dead center, though. I've read plenty of speculation that pitches are "forced" to the middle to benefit directional players, but that's nonsense. Some pitches are definitely "forced" there by the game play, but I think that's unrelated; some of my cards do much better on pitches down and in, so I think that benefits poor PCI placers more, but what do I know...
Anyway, I just like it better and it works fine. I'm 46, and my RS record is 151-119. Not good, but certainly enough to have fun without feeling I'm getting my [censored] handed to me every time I play.
great write up. IDK man I used PCI all year until about two weeks ago. HUGE difference man. Not even getting in to the swing type per player. Just feels more realistic than trying to move that [censored] cursor all over the place. Well i hit way better anyway. My RS record is 10-13 lol
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@arvcpa said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Washed__AF said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
I will say I would love seeing how I stack up with people in my age range, maybe 30-39
I would love an "age range" event. I would be in the... "seniors" division. AARP maybe?
Haha, being over 40, I'd be down
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@Washed__AF said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@PScrabro said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Washed__AF said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
I'm 35
I use zone
I will say I would love seeing how I stack up with people in my age range, maybe 30-39
I consider myself pretty decent and due to my age there's no way I can compete with the young kids in this game.
39 here... I've only been playing a few months now. I think I'm 28-37 in RS so far. I can be super patient and hit well one night and then the next night I cant train my simpleton brain to stop swinging at balls. I would be down for an old man game if you want to play sometime. What's your H2H record?
I'm 75-21 and the record is not representative of my skill level. I think I'm way worse than the record. I've watched a few streams and those guys are ridiculously good. I struggle with small PCI movements, sinkers, and laying off pitches below the zone.
My strength is pitching and defense. I hit just enough to win some close games.
Help a brother out with some pitching tips? Cheers.
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@nflman2033 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@arvcpa said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Washed__AF said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
I will say I would love seeing how I stack up with people in my age range, maybe 30-39
I would love an "age range" event. I would be in the... "seniors" division. AARP maybe?
Haha, being over 40, I'd be down
I’m down to play. 40 plus here.
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@blakev03 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
practice your zone hitting on challenge of the week
Or one of the free showdowns, skip straight to the end. It’s good practice with different swing types and ratings, and you earn solid XP points.
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@jcassaro44 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
You can also set up a custom practice, start off on a lower difficulty.
NO ONE OVER THE AGE OF 35 WANTS TO SPEND TIME PRACTICING A VIDEO GAME THEY JUST WANNA HAVE FUN LIKE CYNDI LAUPERS GIRLS....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dz--yKDZY
WE HAVE THE MOST MONEY BUT THEY GEAR THINGS TOWARD THE KIDS SO PARENTS CAN GET THEIR CC'S RAPED( CAPS GOT STUCK- SORRY)
Weird, that's like the most reversed thing ever, usually people over 35 are like "Kids today don't want to work for anything", and now it's Adults over 35 don't want to take time be good, they want their hand held.
because its a video game man, back in the day you popped in a sports game you didnt have to learn a thousand different algorithms and watch youtube for hours you just played with what you had, this game you could be matched up with someone whos dedicated their life such as yourself to this game, when we played video games we one by best hand eye now days you have to practice? your life is short it should be spent doing something of value not practicing a video game.
Ah yes the ole "Why don't you do something with your life" bit.
I'm currently taking online college classes, I am writing a book, I write fantasy baseball articles as a hobby, living a good life, looking forward to when I can do more once this COVID stuff dies down, until then, I have plenty of time to play MLB the Show and that's ok.
This guy does all this and still has time to fact check people on a video game forum lol, I’ll never forget that.
Common. Probably takes 60 to 90 seconds to find it...
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@Potawatomi_Kid said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@jcassaro44 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
You can also set up a custom practice, start off on a lower difficulty.
NO ONE OVER THE AGE OF 35 WANTS TO SPEND TIME PRACTICING A VIDEO GAME THEY JUST WANNA HAVE FUN LIKE CYNDI LAUPERS GIRLS....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dz--yKDZY
WE HAVE THE MOST MONEY BUT THEY GEAR THINGS TOWARD THE KIDS SO PARENTS CAN GET THEIR CC'S RAPED( CAPS GOT STUCK- SORRY)
Weird, that's like the most reversed thing ever, usually people over 35 are like "Kids today don't want to work for anything", and now it's Adults over 35 don't want to take time be good, they want their hand held.
because its a video game man, back in the day you popped in a sports game you didnt have to learn a thousand different algorithms and watch youtube for hours you just played with what you had, this game you could be matched up with someone whos dedicated their life such as yourself to this game, when we played video games we one by best hand eye now days you have to practice? your life is short it should be spent doing something of value not practicing a video game.
Ah yes the ole "Why don't you do something with your life" bit.
I'm currently taking online college classes, I am writing a book, I write fantasy baseball articles as a hobby, living a good life, looking forward to when I can do more once this COVID stuff dies down, until then, I have plenty of time to play MLB the Show and that's ok.
This guy does all this and still has time to fact check people on a video game forum lol, I’ll never forget that.
Common. Probably takes 60 to 90 seconds to find it...
Nice avatar bro
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@Steelerof3Rivers said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Potawatomi_Kid said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@jcassaro44 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
You can also set up a custom practice, start off on a lower difficulty.
NO ONE OVER THE AGE OF 35 WANTS TO SPEND TIME PRACTICING A VIDEO GAME THEY JUST WANNA HAVE FUN LIKE CYNDI LAUPERS GIRLS....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dz--yKDZY
WE HAVE THE MOST MONEY BUT THEY GEAR THINGS TOWARD THE KIDS SO PARENTS CAN GET THEIR CC'S RAPED( CAPS GOT STUCK- SORRY)
Weird, that's like the most reversed thing ever, usually people over 35 are like "Kids today don't want to work for anything", and now it's Adults over 35 don't want to take time be good, they want their hand held.
because its a video game man, back in the day you popped in a sports game you didnt have to learn a thousand different algorithms and watch youtube for hours you just played with what you had, this game you could be matched up with someone whos dedicated their life such as yourself to this game, when we played video games we one by best hand eye now days you have to practice? your life is short it should be spent doing something of value not practicing a video game.
Ah yes the ole "Why don't you do something with your life" bit.
I'm currently taking online college classes, I am writing a book, I write fantasy baseball articles as a hobby, living a good life, looking forward to when I can do more once this COVID stuff dies down, until then, I have plenty of time to play MLB the Show and that's ok.
This guy does all this and still has time to fact check people on a video game forum lol, I’ll never forget that.
Common. Probably takes 60 to 90 seconds to find it...
Nice avatar bro
@Steelerof3Rivers said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Potawatomi_Kid said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Steelerof3Rivers said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@eatyum said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Darth_MacGyver said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@jcassaro44 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
You can also set up a custom practice, start off on a lower difficulty.
NO ONE OVER THE AGE OF 35 WANTS TO SPEND TIME PRACTICING A VIDEO GAME THEY JUST WANNA HAVE FUN LIKE CYNDI LAUPERS GIRLS....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9dz--yKDZY
WE HAVE THE MOST MONEY BUT THEY GEAR THINGS TOWARD THE KIDS SO PARENTS CAN GET THEIR CC'S RAPED( CAPS GOT STUCK- SORRY)
Weird, that's like the most reversed thing ever, usually people over 35 are like "Kids today don't want to work for anything", and now it's Adults over 35 don't want to take time be good, they want their hand held.
because its a video game man, back in the day you popped in a sports game you didnt have to learn a thousand different algorithms and watch youtube for hours you just played with what you had, this game you could be matched up with someone whos dedicated their life such as yourself to this game, when we played video games we one by best hand eye now days you have to practice? your life is short it should be spent doing something of value not practicing a video game.
Ah yes the ole "Why don't you do something with your life" bit.
I'm currently taking online college classes, I am writing a book, I write fantasy baseball articles as a hobby, living a good life, looking forward to when I can do more once this COVID stuff dies down, until then, I have plenty of time to play MLB the Show and that's ok.
This guy does all this and still has time to fact check people on a video game forum lol, I’ll never forget that.
Common. Probably takes 60 to 90 seconds to find it...
Nice avatar bro
Lol
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@dubdubcfc said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Washed__AF said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@PScrabro said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
@Washed__AF said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
I'm 35
I use zone
I will say I would love seeing how I stack up with people in my age range, maybe 30-39
I consider myself pretty decent and due to my age there's no way I can compete with the young kids in this game.
39 here... I've only been playing a few months now. I think I'm 28-37 in RS so far. I can be super patient and hit well one night and then the next night I cant train my simpleton brain to stop swinging at balls. I would be down for an old man game if you want to play sometime. What's your H2H record?
I'm 75-21 and the record is not representative of my skill level. I think I'm way worse than the record. I've watched a few streams and those guys are ridiculously good. I struggle with small PCI movements, sinkers, and laying off pitches below the zone.
My strength is pitching and defense. I hit just enough to win some close games.
Help a brother out with some pitching tips? Cheers.
Read your opponent
Mix it up and don't get into a pattern
When you're up 0-2, for the love of everything holy, don't even TRY to throw an off speed pitch below the zone because their is some type of magical force that makes 0-2 pitches HANG and proceed to get absolutely BANGED -
I don't remember when I started doing zone. It does give you more control over what you're doing. The only time I have issues is when the fastballs seem overpowering, but then again sometimes a pitcher will be throwing 100 and it doesn't even seem like it's that fast. It can be hard to time the pitch and move to the location and decide that it's going to be a strike, when using zone hitting. That being said, it's kind of boring when you use directional. The only time I use directional is on some of the moments that require XBHs or HRs and on some of the Ruth HOF Moments when I can't catch up to the fast balls.
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@The_Joneser said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
Wow... was reading through this and had something to say on the zone vs directional thing, but this got weird, quick. Not sure I want to offer encouragement...
I’ll say it anyway; you don’t need to play zone to win games. If you don’t like the idea of a PCI, don’t use it. You may have a lower ceiling, but if you don’t plan on making World Series, you can do just fine using directional.
I hate the PCI, and not because I’m old (but I am), but because I don’t feel like I’m playing a baseball game if I’m chasing things around with crosshairs. I don’t like the mechanics, and I don’t like the look of it. But you can work on timing, picking the right influence in the right situation, and you can still beat people more often than you lose without succumbing to the Missle Command style of baseball. Again, I’m not great, but I’m in the low 700s again and about 39 games over .500... you just need to find the right players (swings you can manage, and high vision stats are a must for directional) and you can put up runs.
It’s just a preference...
question, what type of swings do you use? contact, power? and do you play to your players strengths? like Gywnn, hes a contact hitter, do ya use contact swing? I use zone hitting, id like to use directional but i cant hit consistently
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In res[ponse to your initial question...
On the N64, Ken Griffey Baseball (The greatest sports game of all time in IMHO) had zone hitting as the only option. In the PS2 days, MLB2K introduced the 'Swing Stick' as being more akin to real baseball and thus timing based hitting was introduced. It was an option in that game and quickly spread to other franchises. I myself would rotate each year between PS2 The Show and MLB2K baseball games.
When I started playing The Show on PS3 I stuck with the swing stick (timing based) concept and used the "Full Stride" option with the rationale that since each player's swing and follow through was different, this required significantly more practice and skill than zone hitting. The 'Flick Stick' timing based hitting was always just too elementary school for my tastes. I don't think the "Full Stride" option is even available for online play anymore.
By MLBTS 17 I had seen the light and switched to zone hitting. Zone hitting is better and it brings me back full circle to the glory days of Ken Griffey Baseball on the N64.
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@DaBearsfan217 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
question, what type of swings do you use? contact, power? and do you play to your players strengths? like Gywnn, hes a contact hitter, do ya use contact swing? I use zone hitting, id like to use directional but i cant hit consistently
I only use normal swing, as, in my experience, anyway, I’ve gotten really poor results with both power and contact. But I still try to play to strengths with influence; with Vlad and Brett (and most power hitters), I go with either a pure pull or pull/fly (diagonally up toward pull side), or with contact guys like Carew and Ozzie, I influence toward the ground, going to the pull or opposite side, depending on the player and situation.
I’m certainly no expert, though. I’ve just found that to work for me, and have really only started to click over the last 30-40 games or so.
When I had Gwynn, I’d go down and away mostly, as he was money to the opposite side.
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@Some_Schmuck_22 said in How long has "PCI" been the way to hit in this game?:
In res[ponse to your initial question...
On the N64, Ken Griffey Baseball (The greatest sports game of all time in IMHO) had zone hitting as the only option. In the PS2 days, MLB2K introduced the 'Swing Stick' as being more akin to real baseball and thus timing based hitting was introduced. It was an option in that game and quickly spread to other franchises. I myself would rotate each year between PS2 The Show and MLB2K baseball games.
When I started playing The Show on PS3 I stuck with the swing stick (timing based) concept and used the "Full Stride" option with the rationale that since each player's swing and follow through was different, this required significantly more practice and skill than zone hitting. The 'Flick Stick' timing based hitting was always just too elementary school for my tastes. I don't think the "Full Stride" option is even available for online play anymore.
By MLBTS 17 I had seen the light and switched to zone hitting. Zone hitting is better and it brings me back full circle to the glory days of Ken Griffey Baseball on the N64.
When playing franchise or RTTS (or used to, usually in Feb/March waiting for the new game) been using zone with analog stride. So fun. But unrealistic when chasing 102 outliers online.
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Does anyone remember the original classic pure analog with stride timing interface? I thought it was going to be the future hitting interface for years to come. It just felt so immerseful . They really trashed it by taking away the " stride timing" aspect of it.
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