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@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
How do you think clemente belongs here? he won't have any power. Sosa was 30/30 guy and was good defensively with a strong arm before 1998. If it's a singature card then it will be the second best card in the game imo.
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@xxJeffG101xx said in FINAL GUESS:
Jose Bautista
I've always said "Blue Jays fans are simply Maple Leaf fans with nothing better to do in the summer"
Thank you for confirming.
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@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
If they’re following the Wagner model of last year which is dropping an all around card those 3 you outlined (Aaron/Arod/Bonds) would be ideal as they all where 5 tool superstars and you can justify giving them 90+ on everything. I just don’t want to be stuck with a Babe Ruth that can mash but can’t play a single position adequately. I think they did a good job with Honus last year but this year if it’s not a new legend it’s probably going to be disappointing.
I wouldn't say Aaron was a 4 tool player as he didn't really run that much in his 23 year career there is only 9 seasons where he had 15+ SB the rest where below 10. Same can be said of Arod as he has a career .250 average.
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@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
Honus wasn't truely a new legend he had been in the game years ago. Same thing with Tris Speaker and Satchel Paige.
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@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
Honus wasn't truely a new legend he had been in the game years ago. Same thing with Tris Speaker and Satchel Paige.
Not fair to compare any pre-'Obannon v. NCAA' games to today.
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@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
Honus wasn't truely a new legend he had been in the game years ago. Same thing with Tris Speaker and Satchel Paige.
I don't know how this is relevent to me?
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I hope he’s a right handed batter so I know I won’t want him.
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@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
How do you think clemente belongs here? he won't have any power. Sosa was 30/30 guy and was good defensively with a strong arm before 1998. If it's a singature card then it will be the second best card in the game imo.
Clemente doesn't need 125/125 power. Honus didn't either.
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@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
If they’re following the Wagner model of last year which is dropping an all around card those 3 you outlined (Aaron/Arod/Bonds) would be ideal as they all where 5 tool superstars and you can justify giving them 90+ on everything. I just don’t want to be stuck with a Babe Ruth that can mash but can’t play a single position adequately. I think they did a good job with Honus last year but this year if it’s not a new legend it’s probably going to be disappointing.
I wouldn't say Aaron was a 4 tool player as he didn't really run that much in his 23 year career there is only 9 seasons where he had 15+ SB the rest where below 10. Same can be said of Arod as he has a career .250 average.
Mantle averaged 8 steals a year in his career and they gave him 90+ speed. I’m sure they wouldn’t have an issue giving arod or Aaron who actually stole 30+ bases in season above 90 speed.
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@Jeviduty said in FINAL GUESS:
@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
How do you think clemente belongs here? he won't have any power. Sosa was 30/30 guy and was good defensively with a strong arm before 1998. If it's a singature card then it will be the second best card in the game imo.
Clemente doesn't need 125/125 power. Honus didn't either.
Clemente needs 80 plus and won't get it. Honus had 88 and 89 and was faster than clemente will be. Clemente would be a major L for a collection of this magnitude.
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@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
If they’re following the Wagner model of last year which is dropping an all around card those 3 you outlined (Aaron/Arod/Bonds) would be ideal as they all where 5 tool superstars and you can justify giving them 90+ on everything. I just don’t want to be stuck with a Babe Ruth that can mash but can’t play a single position adequately. I think they did a good job with Honus last year but this year if it’s not a new legend it’s probably going to be disappointing.
I wouldn't say Aaron was a 4 tool player as he didn't really run that much in his 23 year career there is only 9 seasons where he had 15+ SB the rest where below 10. Same can be said of Arod as he has a career .250 average.
Mantle averaged 8 steals a year in his career and they gave him 90+ speed. I’m sure they wouldn’t have an issue giving arod or Aaron who actually stole 30+ bases in season above 90 speed.
Mantle was actually one of the fastest guys in the league he just destoryed his knee when he tripped over a drain pipe because he was giving Dimaggio the ball to field. He played the rest of his Career with a torn ACL. Dimaggio went to war and was a baseball instructor.
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@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
If they’re following the Wagner model of last year which is dropping an all around card those 3 you outlined (Aaron/Arod/Bonds) would be ideal as they all where 5 tool superstars and you can justify giving them 90+ on everything. I just don’t want to be stuck with a Babe Ruth that can mash but can’t play a single position adequately. I think they did a good job with Honus last year but this year if it’s not a new legend it’s probably going to be disappointing.
I wouldn't say Aaron was a 4 tool player as he didn't really run that much in his 23 year career there is only 9 seasons where he had 15+ SB the rest where below 10. Same can be said of Arod as he has a career .250 average.
Not a problem, SDS will just give him a sinker and problem solved!
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@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Jeviduty said in FINAL GUESS:
@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
How do you think clemente belongs here? he won't have any power. Sosa was 30/30 guy and was good defensively with a strong arm before 1998. If it's a singature card then it will be the second best card in the game imo.
Clemente doesn't need 125/125 power. Honus didn't either.
Clemente needs 80 plus and won't get it. Honus had 88 and 89 and was faster than clemente will be. Clemente would be a major L for a collection of this magnitude.
I respectfully disagree with your statement. I personally would break the bank for a Signature Clemente (with a sinker)
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@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Jeviduty said in FINAL GUESS:
@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
How do you think clemente belongs here? he won't have any power. Sosa was 30/30 guy and was good defensively with a strong arm before 1998. If it's a singature card then it will be the second best card in the game imo.
Clemente doesn't need 125/125 power. Honus didn't either.
Clemente needs 80 plus and won't get it. Honus had 88 and 89 and was faster than clemente will be. Clemente would be a major L for a collection of this magnitude.
I disagree, I think there's a good shot he gets 80/80 and I'd personally would love to use him. His speed will be a downgrade from Honus and his steal stat will be bad, His speed may still be decent. The guy had over 150 triples. Hopefully whoever it is makes most people happy.
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Whoever it is he most definitely won’t be worth 1mill + stubs it will cost to get him just hope you have most the cards needed to get him off the bat and hopefully it’s not just 1 card but 2-3 that you get at least .
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@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
If they’re following the Wagner model of last year which is dropping an all around card those 3 you outlined (Aaron/Arod/Bonds) would be ideal as they all where 5 tool superstars and you can justify giving them 90+ on everything. I just don’t want to be stuck with a Babe Ruth that can mash but can’t play a single position adequately. I think they did a good job with Honus last year but this year if it’s not a new legend it’s probably going to be disappointing.
I wouldn't say Aaron was a 4 tool player as he didn't really run that much in his 23 year career there is only 9 seasons where he had 15+ SB the rest where below 10. Same can be said of Arod as he has a career .250 average.
Mantle averaged 8 steals a year in his career and they gave him 90+ speed. I’m sure they wouldn’t have an issue giving arod or Aaron who actually stole 30+ bases in season above 90 speed.
Mantle was actually one of the fastest guys in the league he just destoryed his knee when he tripped over a drain pipe because he was giving Dimaggio the ball to field. He played the rest of his Career with a torn ACL. Dimaggio went to war and was a baseball instructor.
I never saw him play so I can’t speak on his speed specially but if we’re basing this off stats he didn’t steal bases in the beginning of his career either. A-rod had a 40 SB season and Aaron had a 30 SB season. Off stats I can definitely see both of those guys having above 90 speed. Especially if they’re the collection reward
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@joeythebigboss said in FINAL GUESS:
Whoever it is he most definitely won’t be worth 1mill + stubs it will cost to get him just hope you have most the cards needed to get him off the bat and hopefully it’s not just 1 card but 2-3 that you get at least .
If it’s Bonds/Aaron I’d gladly sell my whole inventory with zero regret
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I would be shocked if it was Bonds that feels like a all collection reward Like Mantle , they would make a huge deal of that if they got his rights . But I can see it being Hank Aaron Also can see it being Arod .
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@Jeviduty said in FINAL GUESS:
@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Jeviduty said in FINAL GUESS:
@bwheel1977 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
How do you think clemente belongs here? he won't have any power. Sosa was 30/30 guy and was good defensively with a strong arm before 1998. If it's a singature card then it will be the second best card in the game imo.
Clemente doesn't need 125/125 power. Honus didn't either.
Clemente needs 80 plus and won't get it. Honus had 88 and 89 and was faster than clemente will be. Clemente would be a major L for a collection of this magnitude.
I disagree, I think there's a good shot he gets 80/80 and I'd personally would love to use him. His speed will be a downgrade from Honus and his steal stat will be bad, His speed may still be decent. The guy had over 150 triples. Hopefully whoever it is makes most people happy.
I would love a good clemente card but don't think it will be this type of collection. I think he will be br or ws reward if he is in the game this year. I really only think maybe 5 players are worth it for this reward. Honus, aaron(assuming he is coming in the game), Stocker, Mays, arod(my pick) and dimaggio(may be a stretch) and mantle(not him obviously). This card will easily cost 2 mil and will need to be good to great at all facets of the game. Ruth and Thomas whom are consitently guessed on here and reddit would be huge L's as they can't play defense. I think stocker is the strongest pick but Arod is my guess. He will sell the most stubs in my opinion.
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@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@Boneman05 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
@the_dragon1912 said in FINAL GUESS:
@theman925 said in FINAL GUESS:
It’s gonna be Ruth and I’m going to be pretty disappointed. Really wish they’d step up and bring in a new legend for the main reward.
I do too, but Bonds, Arod, and Aaron/Clemente are the only players that remotely compare to Honus last year, in the game or new legends. None of thise seem like midseason drops to me. No matter who it is, it will be disappointing to someone because no one compares to a 5 tool shortstop with that positional flexibility. Babe, Ted, Sosa, Mcgwire, and Frank are bad defensively/slow/can be easily replaced. Mays would be worth it but there is 0 chance they make him a collection reward 2 years in a row. Only current legend in the game remotely worth it besides Mays is Foxx with a C secondary IMO. I will do the collection regardless
If they’re following the Wagner model of last year which is dropping an all around card those 3 you outlined (Aaron/Arod/Bonds) would be ideal as they all where 5 tool superstars and you can justify giving them 90+ on everything. I just don’t want to be stuck with a Babe Ruth that can mash but can’t play a single position adequately. I think they did a good job with Honus last year but this year if it’s not a new legend it’s probably going to be disappointing.
I wouldn't say Aaron was a 4 tool player as he didn't really run that much in his 23 year career there is only 9 seasons where he had 15+ SB the rest where below 10. Same can be said of Arod as he has a career .250 average.
Mantle averaged 8 steals a year in his career and they gave him 90+ speed. I’m sure they wouldn’t have an issue giving arod or Aaron who actually stole 30+ bases in season above 90 speed.
Mantle was actually one of the fastest guys in the league he just destoryed his knee when he tripped over a drain pipe because he was giving Dimaggio the ball to field. He played the rest of his Career with a torn ACL. Dimaggio went to war and was a baseball instructor.
I never saw him play so I can’t speak on his speed specially but if we’re basing this off stats he didn’t steal bases in the beginning of his career either. A-rod had a 40 SB season and Aaron had a 30 SB season. Off stats I can definitely see both of those guys having above 90 speed. Especially if they’re the collection reward
Its because Mantle tore his ACL his rookie season in 51. It was actually in the world season and Willie Mays had hit the ball. If DiMaggio wouldn't have been such an asshole Mickey probably would have been a 400 +SB
