SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake

It is time for SDS to admit that having the prestige grinds be online only was a big mistake and move them to any mode (ie offline included) within the next update or two. The prestige grind has completely ruined events with a huge swath of people playing just for prestige (ie hitting and quitting, pitching and quitting, or just outright asking for stats), which has taken the fun out of events and made them into nothing more than grinding opportunities.

The idea that it takes more skill and/or time to prestige a card online went out the window as soon as these cards were included in events and thus allowing people who prefer to play offline wouldn’t change any dynamic in the prestige process other than to clean up events AND likely make a ton of their customers very happy.

Forcing people to play online to prestige cards didn’t work and it’s past time to rectify this mistake and move all these grinds to any mode.

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

It is time for SDS to admit that having the prestige grinds be online only was a big mistake and move them to any mode (ie offline included) within the next update or two. The prestige grind has completely ruined events with a huge swath of people playing just for prestige (ie hitting and quitting, pitching and quitting, or just outright asking for stats), which has taken the fun out of events and made them into nothing more than grinding opportunities.

The idea that it takes more skill and/or time to prestige a card online went out the window as soon as these cards were included in events and thus allowing people who prefer to play offline wouldn’t change any dynamic in the prestige process other than to clean up events AND likely make a ton of their customers very happy.

Forcing people to play online to prestige cards didn’t work and it’s past time to rectify this mistake and move all these grinds to any mode.

I never see quitting on me as a bad thing, unless you're using events to simply grind prestige too? I play events for wins and rewards. People quitting gets me there quicker.

I used it for Felix and Leiter grind and it was great ... I am not a great hitter so I rather upgrade my Ps

@nymets1987 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

I used it for Felix and Leiter grind and it was great ... I am not a great hitter so I rather upgrade my Ps

Ok, but why couldn’t that be done offline too? The time difference between doing a pitching grind in an event and offline is minimal.

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@nymets1987 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

I used it for Felix and Leiter grind and it was great ... I am not a great hitter so I rather upgrade my Ps

Ok, but why couldn’t that be done offline too? The time difference between doing a pitching grind in an event and offline is minimal.

I agree with u. I would be able to do hitter ones if it was offline too. I have said from beginning I def agree with you.

At this point I wouldn’t mind it. I was never one for boosting anyway( I have like 5 prestige programs done but 4 of them are pitchers), but It would save events from the boosters and beggers(I could maybe turn messages on again), and it would be good to prestige guys like hanley and Helton that I don’t use online or in conquest

Seems like I hardly play offline anymore, only at the start of an Inning or when a new conquest map drops. That said offline prestige would be very nice. Maybe make something like 90 hits vs the CPU on All Star difficulty or higher, so that way it isn't just a repeat of 18.

I would be nice to have both options though.

Welcome to the weekly @GradektheBard complaint about online prestiging

Maybe set it up the way 2K (hate to give them credit!) did for "Evolution Players" this year? The cards that you could evolve to the highest level would a lot of the time have multiple tiers with multiple missions per level (score 200 points, get 50 rebounds, get 20 blocks as an example). These missions could be done both online and offline.

Or fix dashboarding

Yeah, having to prestige players online changed my outlook toward events, because I will grind as much as I can there instead of RS.

An offline prestige grind would likely be more time-consuming but certainly less infuriating.

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

Welcome to the weekly @GradektheBard complaint about online prestiging

And until they admit it was a mistake and change it, I (and many others) will keep making this suggestion. I think you are vastly underestimating the size of the “offline” customer base.

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

Welcome to the weekly @GradektheBard complaint about online prestiging

And until they admit it was a mistake and change it, I (and many others will keep making this suggestion). I think you are vastly underestimating the size of the “offline” customer base.

I disagree that it was a mistake.it was intentional, so many ppl on the forums last couple of years about online missions,either new players or quickly forgetting what 17was like.this was done as proof why it's a terrible idea to have online only missions

I am just not going to prestige anyone.

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

Welcome to the weekly @GradektheBard complaint about online prestiging

And until they admit it was a mistake and change it, I (and many others) will keep making this suggestion. I think you are vastly underestimating the size of the “offline” customer base.

They don’t owe you or anyone any admission. They chose to go that route. Does it work perfectly? Of course it doesn’t. Even I get annoyed about how it plays out but I’m not gonna complain and expect them to come out and specifically admit that what they did was wrong? No business would. What you’re expecting from them is assinine

Victor shows up in minutes for someone complaining about lag but complete silence on this since launch. Terrible.

I prefer to keep it where it is and just fix dashboarding.

An alternative might be to only require innings online for hitters and pitchers both. 500 for hitters seems reasonable. Maybe 100 for pitchers.

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

And until they admit it was a mistake and change it, I (and many others) will keep making this suggestion. I think you are vastly underestimating the size of the “offline” customer base.

I think we as outsiders have no idea what the size of the offline customer base is.
I think SDS knows the size down to the person. And any speculation about base size either way is just that: speculation.

Also, and this can't be overstated: this is a business and SDS has a financial incentive to push online play. Frankly, they deserve kudos for making as much of the card catalog offline-acquirable as it is.

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

Welcome to the weekly @GradektheBard complaint about online prestiging

And until they admit it was a mistake and change it, I (and many others) will keep making this suggestion. I think you are vastly underestimating the size of the “offline” customer base.

They don’t owe you or anyone any admission. They chose to go that route. Does it work perfectly? Of course it doesn’t. Even I get annoyed about how it plays out but I’m not gonna complain and expect them to come out and specifically admit that what they did was wrong? No business would. What you’re expecting from them is assinine

They effectively did in 17 when they moved all the programs to any mode after like the second set.

I think prestiging online is how it should be, but the dashboarding issue needs to be fixed for it to remain like that.

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@GradektheBard said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

@Hikes83 said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

Welcome to the weekly @GradektheBard complaint about online prestiging

And until they admit it was a mistake and change it, I (and many others) will keep making this suggestion. I think you are vastly underestimating the size of the “offline” customer base.

They don’t owe you or anyone any admission. They chose to go that route. Does it work perfectly? Of course it doesn’t. Even I get annoyed about how it plays out but I’m not gonna complain and expect them to come out and specifically admit that what they did was wrong? No business would. What you’re expecting from them is assinine

They effectively did in 17 when they moved all the programs to any mode after like the second set.

That was the Griffey Jr year where upgrading him was locked behind a paywall(online) I was gifted some PSN 30 day trials in order to complete all the griffey stuff. Was not fun but I did it. I have PS+ now sharing with a friend but I am just not big on playing online since it's a different experience and not the same/as good as playing against the CPU or a friend on the same PS4. Offline play is vastly superior to online play. SDS just can't get online right.

Ok, but why couldn’t that be done offline too? The time difference between doing a pitching grind in an event and offline is minimal.

Not when the event is quick counts. Prestige is twice faster than offline with quick counts.

Can't do that now... too many folks already did it the hard way. I was bummed when they made it easier to get TA's done after the time and stubs I invested in obtaining mine. I hated that they made them sellable too. It feels like grading on a curve to me. It works well for the kid who now gets an A that earned the B. But it is a smack in the face to the kid who grinded to earn the A.

I still don’t understand offline players complaining about DD. You can literally play whatever team, from whatever era, with whatever team and attributes you feel you deserve..... WHENEVER YOU WANT....just don’t click “diamond dynasty”

You wait 9 months for Babe Ruth to release for fun? Like I reaaaaaaaly don’t understand it, go play with Babe Ruth now. Add +3 to as many players as you want. The XP and stubs you earn in DD, yeah those only unlock other cards you could also use RIGHT NOW. You could even do it in a season which DD players can’t. You could play in the World Series which DD players can’t. Hell you could make these guys all 18 years old and live out a fantasy career where every great that’s ever lived plays amongst each other. Yet you wanna complain about a check mark and good job you don’t even need.

If I could bypass the 600 hour grind for Mantle, the 8 month wait to for Ruth, add Kenny Powers, Bo Jackson, and Randy Johnson while still being able to play how I want, I would.

Space and Opportunity are the two things stopping you.

@ChArTeRBuS said in SDS, Time to Admit Online Only Prestige Was a Mistake:

I still don’t understand offline players complaining about DD. You can literally play whatever team, from whatever era, with whatever team and attributes you feel you deserve..... WHENEVER YOU WANT....just don’t click “diamond dynasty”

You wait 9 months for Babe Ruth to release for fun? Like I reaaaaaaaly don’t understand it, go play with Babe Ruth now. Add +3 to as many players as you want. The XP and stubs you earn in DD, yeah those only unlock other cards you could also use RIGHT NOW. You could even do it in a season which DD players can’t. You could play in the World Series which DD players can’t. Hell you could make these guys all 18 years old and live out a fantasy career where every great that’s ever lived plays amongst each other. Yet you wanna complain about a check mark and good job you don’t even need.

If I could bypass the 600 hour grind for Mantle, the 8 month wait to for Ruth, add Kenny Powers, Bo Jackson, and Randy Johnson while still being able to play how I want, I would.

Space and Opportunity are the two things stopping you.

This isn't about offline players complaining about DD, this is about online players that don't want to deal with hit and quitters all day in events.