Where do we draw the line?
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@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Talk to sds. They're the ones that want a simulation.
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They should just remove feedback words, just creates complaints!
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@pbake12 said in Where do we draw the line?:
They should just remove feedback words, just creates complaints!
I don’t get this either, it doesn’t change the issue with this game, just tries to hide it. There would be no need for a pci.
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@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
Here's how I'll explain your top guys theory and why you can't really simulate irl argument to DD in specific.
The top guys do fail 7/10 times. But the top guys are not also batting with stacked lineups in front of and behind thwm. So top guys USUALLY get pitched differently and are usually are getting pitched around cuz they are a top guy. So usually these guys don't get the best of pitches to hit and usually pitchers would rather walk a guy trying to get him to chase than throw him a hittable ball. But guess what, when these guys do get hittable balls they usually crush them.
Now consider the fact that all DD teams stacked with great hitters to the point that any guy 1-8 can put 1 in the seats, which takes the irl argument away already because of the fact you can't really be ok walking guys just for the next guy to put 2 or 3 on the board with 1 swing of the bat. So in turn we who are playing this video game are forced to challenge guys more often than a pitcher irl. Which means some of the greatest hitters of all time are getting more hittable balls than they do or would've gotten irl.
I say all that to say this, How much better would the Batting Averages of top guys be, if they had other batters just as good or even better bats than them throughout the lineup. Probably a lot better than .300... This is DD where you worse hitter in the 8 hole can still have over 100 power and contact from both sides. So yes when guys make mistake pitches and they are squared up with some of the best in history, more often than not it should be crushed.
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@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Didn't even see this post. Basically just wrote the same exact thing lol
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@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
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@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
Go check out the scores from the All-Star games. A lineup of top hitters vs top pitchers. Usually the score is pretty low.
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@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
Go check out the scores from the All-Star games. A lineup of top hitters vs top pitchers. Usually the score is pretty low.
Thats because A. They only face a pitcher for an inning or 2 and B.they get taken out after 2 AB. One or 2 AB isn’t enough to get a feel for the pitcher
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@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Those hitters weren't facing 99 Kluber or Newhouser every other game either. That argument goes both ways.
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@Chuck_Dizzle29 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Those hitters weren't facing 99 Kluber or Newhouser every other game either. That argument goes both ways.
Literally the only reason Kluber is good is because of sinkers being broken. Thats it. He doesn’t have great velocity and his release isn’t particularly hard to pick up on, but the sinker and the slurve are the best two pitches in the game. Look its not as if I want high scoring games. SDS has proved that its not possible for them to program a game where user input matters and is a realistic sim. To have a sim you need RNG, but the fact is that we will not ever have a good game if they try to make it full sim style with minimum user input mattering.
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Bottom line is we have half “simulation” and half “competitive” which is really ruining this game. It is probably too late for this game to be saved. Maybe they need to move to two versions of ranked seasons, a simulation based and competitive one with different rewards. I don’t play madden anymore but I have seen that they have this option although it seems poorly implemented.
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@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@pbake12 said in Where do we draw the line?:
They should just remove feedback words, just creates complaints!
I don’t get this either, it doesn’t change the issue with this game, just tries to hide it. There would be no need for a pci.
Yeah, it would just hide it, but not sure that is any worse than getting a good/okay and good/squared up with the same result and pci placement, which just make them seem like lies.
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@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
100% wrong. Sorry but no way you take any hitter in this scenario. Best pitcher all time? Or like, a period in which a pitcher was the most dominant? Give me a '99 Pedro, '95 Maddux, 60's Koufax over any lineup any day.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
100% wrong. Sorry but no way you take any hitter in this scenario. Best pitcher all time? Or like, a period in which a pitcher was the most dominant? Give me a '99 Pedro, '95 Maddux, 60's Koufax over any lineup any day.
Great pitching always beats great hitting. This is a well known fact to any baseball fan..Again you are forgetting the fact that not 1 pitcher in history has had to face a stacked lineup. There is Always and I mean Always 3 or 4 maybe more hitters in a lineup where a Pitcher can basically breath easy before having to fave another "top guy".
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@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
Go check out the scores from the All-Star games. A lineup of top hitters vs top pitchers. Usually the score is pretty low.
LMAO all star game. 1. Your talking about 1 meaningless game per year. 2. just cuz a guy makes an all star team doesn't make him one of the greatest hitters all time. Doesn't even make him on of the best in the league. Guy could literally be an average hitter but an oustanding fielder and make an All star team. Hell he could be average at both and still make an all star team.
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@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@j9milz said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@the_dragon1912 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@HoffsDrawlar said in Where do we draw the line?:
@Kovz88 said in Where do we draw the line?:
@ComebackLogic said in Where do we draw the line?:
Feedback is so broken you can’t be sure what you gave up any more. It makes zero sense. I just hit the ball to RF against Kluber with Rickey Henderson for a medium/deep flyout. This was my swing feedback: https://twitter.com/comeback_logic/status/1260882173411971072?s=21
I just can’t take this game seriously any more.
You're slightly off center, therefore=good/okay. The game has issues but if that was a good/okay then thats what it should've been, you weren't perfect with the placement. Perfect means perfect, not pretty close.
That is nonsense. What is your explanation for the early/ok homeruns where the ball is out of the pci?
Does it suck? Yes but in real life not every hard hit ball is a home run and on the other end every home run isn't necessarily squared up. You see guys hit the ball out on bad swings, off the end of their bat, with a flick of their wrists sometimes. It happens, are things frustrating at times? Absolutely but from my experience most of the hits go where I would think they would and most of the people who complain and claim RNG all the time aren't as good at the game as they think they are.
More nonsense, starting with “in real life”. This isn’t real life, it is a competitive video game. A ball in the center of the pci with good timing should be hit better than a ball out of the pci with early or late timing.
Its a simulation. So its actually supposed to be as real as it can be. There are plenty of fantasy baseball games to play if you want a cartoon slugfest but thats not this. In real life the top hitters fail 7 out of 10 times. Everyone who plays this game thinks every single time they hit the ball hard it should land somewhere, thats not realistic.
“This a a simulation in real life the best hitters fail 7 out of 10 times blah blah blah”. If you want a simulation play franchise or custom leagues with regular teams. Its not that hard. You know why real-life scores are 5-4, 5-3 6-4 etc.? Because a real team isn’t composed on 8 .300 hitters. A real team is composed of 1-2 .300 hitters, 1-2 .270-280 hitters, a couple .250 hitters, and a defensive catcher that hovers over the mendoza line. In DD we are using some of the BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME (I don’t care what anyone thinks about future stars I ‘m just trying to make a point). If a real life team had 8 .300 hitters, they would be averaging at minimum 10 hits a game. You might have a reasonable complaint about the Home runs, but the league total home run record has been broken 3 years in a row. Get with the times or GTFO. Quit ruining the game we love because you want 2-1 pitching duel snooze fests. There are plenty of options available for you do do that if you wish. DD is a fantasy mode as much as you want it to resemble real life baseball its not going to happen.
Yah, except you forgot the other end of the argument, you are also using the best pitchers as well, which would neutralize how good the bats are. This game is a simulation whether you like it or not. That what its advertised as. If you want something else, go play something else. People buy a baseball simulation. To play realistic baseball.
1vs9 Best pitcher all time vs nine greatest hitters of all time on 1 team. I'll take the batters everytime. Pitcher still has all the pressure.
Go check out the scores from the All-Star games. A lineup of top hitters vs top pitchers. Usually the score is pretty low.
LMAO all star game. 1. Your talking about 1 meaningless game per year. 2. just cuz a guy makes an all star team doesn't make him one of the greatest hitters all time. Doesn't even make him on of the best in the league. Guy could literally be an average hitter but an oustanding fielder and make an All star team. Hell he could be average at both and still make an all star team.
Ok, want a better example? Look at the playoffs, pitching is king.
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Stop giving feedback so much credit. The game works fine, the feedback does not, it never has. I'm early or late a lot, the game says my timing was good. Know your results, don't trust what the game tells you they were.
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@AvidSpaceExplore said in Where do we draw the line?:
Stop giving feedback so much credit. The game works fine, the feedback does not, it never has. I'm early or late a lot, the game says my timing was good. Know your results, don't trust what the game tells you they were.
This is very true. There are many times when you have "good" timing on an inside pitch, but if you have a good sense of your timing, you will know that you were actually a little late on the ball and it's a weak fly to right-center. As for people that want every good swing to be rewarded and every bad swing to be punished, well that's what higher difficulties are for. HOF is less random than all-star just as legend is less random than HOF.
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Perfect/Perfect balls go for outs in the bigs, as do early/weak balls go out of the yard. I don’t have a problem how it is, baseball is hard and sometimes extremely lucky/unlucky. MLB league average BABIP sits around .300, that’s still 70% of the time you hit the ball you get out. I’m more concerned about actual glitches than this.
