Pitch speeds lag

greenbuk75_PSN

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

Sooner55_PSN

It has everything to do with internet speed or companys I use Suddenlink and its trash for this game.

greenbuk75_PSN

@Sooner55 said in Pitch speeds lag:

It has everything to do with internet speed or companys I use Suddenlink and its trash for this game.

Read my post.

aaronjw76_PSN

@lucas8181 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Every time I play someone with any lag this year I can’t catch up to a 95 mph fastball. Why are pitch speeds so different game to game even facing the same exact pitchers ? It doesn’t matter if I’m home team or away. I’ve never had this happen in any year before 20 and it’s so bad I’m not wanting to play online anymore.

I had this problem to the point that I quit more games than I can count when the year started. Turned out, it wasn't lag, it was my TV. I finally figured that out when I upgraded to a monitor.

My record will never recover, but that's been working to my advantage. Everyone thinks I'm awful at the game now

I have a monitor and still experience pitch lag. Very frustrating.

aaronjw76_PSN

@MaxHarvest said in Pitch speeds lag:

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MaxHarvest said in Pitch speeds lag:

@maskedgrappler said in Pitch speeds lag:

I've got the same issue. What I can tell you is that I've never had this issue and I've been playing online since 17, and until this January on a tv with no game mode. A few weeks ago I went back to 19 and had no issue at all. I had no issue this year until patches 1.04 and 1.05.

So if it's my internet or tv, it's only a factor in this specific version of the show. Beyond that your guess is as good as mine.

I’ve also never experienced it this severe in other versions of the game, I think w the faster speeds and smaller timing windows when it happens it’s super noticeable. It’s really a pretty big issue

Yep, I hate to keep bringing it up, and if it was just me I wouldn't. But enough people are having this problem that there has to be something to it beyond telling everyone to get a monitor.

I have a 1ms monitor and the best internet money can buy son its not either of those

Same.

greenbuk75_PSN

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@lucas8181 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Every time I play someone with any lag this year I can’t catch up to a 95 mph fastball. Why are pitch speeds so different game to game even facing the same exact pitchers ? It doesn’t matter if I’m home team or away. I’ve never had this happen in any year before 20 and it’s so bad I’m not wanting to play online anymore.

I had this problem to the point that I quit more games than I can count when the year started. Turned out, it wasn't lag, it was my TV. I finally figured that out when I upgraded to a monitor.

My record will never recover, but that's been working to my advantage. Everyone thinks I'm awful at the game now

I have a monitor and still experience pitch lag. Very frustrating.

Once again...read my post

aaronjw76_PSN

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@lucas8181 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@MHHW33 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Every time I play someone with any lag this year I can’t catch up to a 95 mph fastball. Why are pitch speeds so different game to game even facing the same exact pitchers ? It doesn’t matter if I’m home team or away. I’ve never had this happen in any year before 20 and it’s so bad I’m not wanting to play online anymore.

I had this problem to the point that I quit more games than I can count when the year started. Turned out, it wasn't lag, it was my TV. I finally figured that out when I upgraded to a monitor.

My record will never recover, but that's been working to my advantage. Everyone thinks I'm awful at the game now

I have a monitor and still experience pitch lag. Very frustrating.

Once again...read my post

Which post?

greenbuk75_PSN

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

aaronjw76_PSN

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

greenbuk75_PSN

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

The menu lag while making your lineup is usually pretty indicative of how much latency there is if that helps at all

aaronjw76_PSN

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

The menu lag while making your lineup is usually pretty indicative of how much latency there is if that helps at all

Just had 3 event games where there was noticable lag while selecting my pitcher. That type of thing? Each game had considerable lag.

greenbuk75_PSN

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@aaronjw76 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@greenbuk75 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@sbooth44 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I have played hundreds of h2h games online since 2014 and I can confirm that network lag has A LOT to do with how well you can see and react to the pitch. It may not have anything to do with your setup, but external factors such as the other person's connection quality and/or physical distance from your connection has a lot to do with it.... If you play someone overseas, for an example, the gameplay will usually be much different than vs if you played someone across town.
Too bad SDS doesn't show connection quality before jumping into an online game. Sometimes you can scroll up and down your lineup in pregame and tell how much lag you might get, but that is not always reliable.

Yep, you match vs a west coast guy and it doesn't matter what your setup is....

My typical benchmarks in killzone shadow fall (because they actually treat you like educated adults and let you see specs) were
-Granted this is dedicated servers and not p2p but you get a good idea

USA east (my time zone)- 20-33ms ping
Central- 50-80ms
West coast- 100+ ms
Brazil- 200ms
Germany- 100-150ms
Uk- 70-100ms
Japan (6am sessions lmao)- 300-450+ Ms

So even just matching cross country added a full 100 milliseconds of latency on top of the 5ms or so between your controller, PS4 etc and the 1ms extra refresh rate on your monitor....playing someone in Cali you are at best seeing that ball over 100 milliseconds late vs an eastern opponent who would be 30 Ms or so

Note, being p2p and some of the slowdowns when pitching help close these gaps some but it will always affect your hitting some

This post @aaronjw76

So basically there is sweet fk all that we can do about this?

The menu lag while making your lineup is usually pretty indicative of how much latency there is if that helps at all

Just had 3 event games where there was noticable lag while selecting my pitcher. That type of thing? Each game had considerable lag.

Yes, if you're selecting and it's instantaneous you're home team and hosting, if there's little lag then they're regionally close

If it's like 5 seconds you're probably playing an island dweller in the middle of bumfuck nowhere

cwarner479

@Sooner55 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I've been seeing this for weeks started one night in BR and I was like WTF!!! No way this is All Star the ball is coming in at 150. The bad thing was it happ all night untill server reset then I was back to normal. The game is unplayable when it goes turbo mode. Never seen anything like this over 15 years playing this game online. Really glad to see others with same issue. I hate to say it but it happens in half my games. I forwarded ports in router. Lol put ps4 in DMZ you name it. Doesn't matter still happens and I have 500 download speed with nothing else running. This has to be fixed.

I was like no way the real good players are having this happen. I asked a few and most said no they didn't know what I was talking about.

Same here brother i ask all the pro streamers and theirs is perfect and idk why it’s happening to me and not them. thought it was my ps4 but i’ve ran out with ideas and i need help how to fix it. glad it’s not just me and there’s others who experience this. i think my only solution now is to only play home games so it’s perfect gameplay.

greenbuk75_PSN

@cwarner479 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@Sooner55 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I've been seeing this for weeks started one night in BR and I was like WTF!!! No way this is All Star the ball is coming in at 150. The bad thing was it happ all night untill server reset then I was back to normal. The game is unplayable when it goes turbo mode. Never seen anything like this over 15 years playing this game online. Really glad to see others with same issue. I hate to say it but it happens in half my games. I forwarded ports in router. Lol put ps4 in DMZ you name it. Doesn't matter still happens and I have 500 download speed with nothing else running. This has to be fixed.

I was like no way the real good players are having this happen. I asked a few and most said no they didn't know what I was talking about.

Same here brother i ask all the pro streamers and theirs is perfect and idk why it’s happening to me and not them. thought it was my ps4 but i’ve ran out with ideas and i need help how to fix it. glad it’s not just me and there’s others who experience this. i think my only solution now is to only play home games so it’s perfect gameplay.

Majority are west coast

jjayp1

Man, I started wondering after a while if I was going crazy. I'd go into games and the pitches would be at me the instant the ball left the pitcher's hand. It was maddening.

And then they decided to make pt2 of the 1st event on HOF which completely ruined it for me. I kept testing my internet and I was getting 200mbps but still this would happen.

I've never had this problem in previous games and I do just fine playing on legend offline but I haven't really seen this talked about on reddit.

I'm not holding my breath, but with this being a server issue I assume, anyone think they'll actually fix this bs? Or do their customary just ignore the problem unless backlash forces them to do otherwise?

Sooner55_PSN

@cwarner479 said in Pitch speeds lag:

@Sooner55 said in Pitch speeds lag:

I've been seeing this for weeks started one night in BR and I was like WTF!!! No way this is All Star the ball is coming in at 150. The bad thing was it happ all night untill server reset then I was back to normal. The game is unplayable when it goes turbo mode. Never seen anything like this over 15 years playing this game online. Really glad to see others with same issue. I hate to say it but it happens in half my games. I forwarded ports in router. Lol put ps4 in DMZ you name it. Doesn't matter still happens and I have 500 download speed with nothing else running. This has to be fixed.

I was like no way the real good players are having this happen. I asked a few and most said no they didn't know what I was talking about.

Same here brother i ask all the pro streamers and theirs is perfect and idk why it’s happening to me and not them. thought it was my ps4 but i’ve ran out with ideas and i need help how to fix it. glad it’s not just me and there’s others who experience this. i think my only solution now is to only play home games so it’s perfect gameplay.

The thing is I've still had it happen to me when I'm the home team. There is no way for us that suffer from this tto be good at the plate. LMAO!!! Try having pitch speeds vary game to game vs Division to division. I will take that in a heartbeat compared to all star playing like vet one game legend on roids the next.

Sooner55_PSN

@jjayp1 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Man, I started wondering after a while if I was going crazy. I'd go into games and the pitches would be at me the instant the ball left the pitcher's hand. It was maddening.

And then they decided to make pt2 of the 1st event on HOF which completely ruined it for me. I kept testing my internet and I was getting 200mbps but still this would happen.

I've never had this problem in previous games and I do just fine playing on legend offline but I haven't really seen this talked about on reddit.

I'm not holding my breath, but with this being a server issue I assume, anyone think they'll actually fix this bs? Or do their customary just ignore the problem unless backlash forces them to do otherwise?

I wish more would post about this. I'ts killed me from even wanting to play anymore. I'ts like wtf is the point? Not gonna fight a broken game driving me crazy.

Jbob811

I am getting bad lag even on my monitor now. Its ridiculous.

Sooner55_PSN

It is bro I use a monitor as well

Sooner55_PSN

@jjayp1 said in Pitch speeds lag:

Man, I started wondering after a while if I was going crazy. I'd go into games and the pitches would be at me the instant the ball left the pitcher's hand. It was maddening.

And then they decided to make pt2 of the 1st event on HOF which completely ruined it for me. I kept testing my internet and I was getting 200mbps but still this would happen.

I've never had this problem in previous games and I do just fine playing on legend offline but I haven't really seen this talked about on reddit.

I'm not holding my breath, but with this being a server issue I assume, anyone think they'll actually fix this bs? Or do their customary just ignore the problem unless backlash forces them to do otherwise?

I sure hope this is not ignored very much a real problem and needs addressed.

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