Extreme program pxp
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@Dolenz_PSN
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As someone who completed 23 and 24 editions of this (My goal is to get to 30 on this year, anything else is bonus that I don't care about), these are my .02 cents.
They should release this around that dead period in late May to early June that's sandwiched between Opening Day and All Star content. You know, that strange period where some of the top cards are 89 Zach Collins and 90 Kyle Farmer. The Extreme 99s should be the second batch of 99s you see during the entire cycle (after Live Series). EDIT: Also, isn't it more extreme to complete these missions/conquests/showdowns before the game is chalk full of 99s?)
Mid October is too late. The majority of the player base has moved on, the remaining players have grinder fatigue but feel like they have to rush through this because a patient approach means acquiring the cards after the player base is even more depleted. Also, stuffing this program with packs seems useless when people already have millions of stubs or can get stubs just flipping a card for up to 20K per transaction.
Online needs more than just a two week event. If they release the program earlier (let's say mid-May), then they could have a monthly one-week event. E.G. Mid-May is a one-week event on G.O.A.T. , June on Legend, then July and August are Hall of Fame. EDIT - They still need more for online players but I'm not sure what since everyone will just ask others to boost stats...
Clean up the moments. If there's a SB moment, then no runners on base before any given at-bat. The RNG is another matter entirely. There's just a lot of stuff that makes a time-consuming process needlessly much longer. If the goal was to increase playing time in the short term, well, it may cost them long term. Some of the "Bad luck" in these moments just baffles me. It has me questioning things as if I'm Alex Jones heh.
That's it for now. Maybe I'm wrong for thinking this but this seems like Extreme Moments is an offline torture mode for people that want to play online with god squads? If you play offline then wouldn't the 99 Clemens, 98 Buxton, and 96 Elly already be solid enough?
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You forgot taking created players out of DD as well as a nerf.
Another annoying aspect of how hard these Moments are, is Buxton and Carroll seemingly only hit home runs since the cards are so juiced! You have to go 'contact swing/ambush' with Bux because homers come sort of easy in his. Corbin as well. What really stinks, is contact swing without ambush is almost useless! The time we need 'easy' homers is the Kurtz one, lol. I mean, if you can get the 'Crawford boxes' special, it can be possible to beat the Kurtz one. I'll keep trying, because the hitting ones are within reach. It will just take many tries. -
@TheGoaler_PSN said in Extreme program pxp:
You forgot taking created players out of DD as well as a nerf.
Another annoying aspect of how hard these Moments are, is Buxton and Carroll seemingly only hit home runs since the cards are so juiced! You have to go 'contact swing/ambush' with Bux because homers come sort of easy in his. Corbin as well. What really stinks, is contact swing without ambush is almost useless! The time we need 'easy' homers is the Kurtz one, lol. I mean, if you can get the 'Crawford boxes' special, it can be possible to beat the Kurtz one. I'll keep trying, because the hitting ones are within reach. It will just take many tries.I just attempted the Buxton one. Hit 4HR in 5AB. Hell, Tony Gwynn was mashing too. Literally had to start bunting with him toward the end to finish it. EDIT: Make that 5 of 7 (the fifth one on CONTACT swing). I took one more swing on contact and it was flyout to warning track. Turned it off and will play some events later tonight. I'll probably just finish the DQ quest, play some events, and whatever I get from pxp then so be it. Basically just want Buxton.
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@MiKySaK_PSN said in Extreme program pxp:
The PXP option is there to help you finish the program if you miss few points. It is not there to complete whole program with it.
Says who?
Everyone plays the game differently and everyone has a different skill level.
For some, it'll be cruisy, for others it'll be a huge challenge and for some, PXP will be the only way they can complete the program.
It is excessive, in the extreme for those whose only option is the last one.
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@NotesOfJohn_PSN said in Extreme program pxp:
@MiKySaK_PSN said in Extreme program pxp:
The PXP option is there to help you finish the program if you miss few points. It is not there to complete whole program with it.
Says who?
Everyone plays the game differently and everyone has a different skill level.
For some, it'll be cruisy, for others it'll be a huge challenge and for some, PXP will be the only way they can complete the program.
It is excessive, in the extreme for those whose only option is the last one.
I was reacting to people saying that it is too much, I am fine with the option to grind it like that but at the same time I believe it should be excessive. If it was much easier then there would be no point in trying to complete those crazy challenges. (and that's why I said the program was not designed like that, but if you want to grind all 800k to complete it then feel free but that would be something. We are talking about 50+ hours with one specific stadium and 150+ hours without it) I still think this design is better than last year where I played like two mini seasons and completed whole program like that, not touching anything extreme at all. If they made current moments bit easier and released the program earlier then it would be perfect.
Also seems like people forgot that in the past there was no option to grind any PXP and the only option was to complete conquest, showdown and ALL moments. I wonder how would people react to that now, they would have to close this forum for few days haha -
SO, played the DQ first, I'm a card junkie, what can I say? I did it once on Friday, 87% chance on Legend, played got neither of the cards. Did it again last night, got 73% (not sure if that's right), got hit a cycle 2 times, got another hit 1 sac fly, 2 hits and 1 XBH, passed it once failed it once, got Kenley. Now I get to do it one more time. YES!!!!!
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Based on that, which I agree with, then they have already failed. Most average players have no interest in even attempting the extreme program. In past years I was willing to try a few of the moments and do mini seasons. This year I took one look and said no thanks. I’m sure there are MANY players in that boat with me.
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Anytime the game caters to the elite minority while crapping on the average/casual majority, it’s not a good thing for the long term health of the game. This year has done more to drive away non elite players than any of the past 4 or 5 years.
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They royally bummed Extreme Program this year by not including the mini seasons repeatable for vouchers and progression. After Conquest and a few moments last year... I basically just kept doing mini seasons.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Extreme program pxp:
Based on that, which I agree with, then they have already failed. Most average players have no interest in even attempting the extreme program. In past years I was willing to try a few of the moments and do mini seasons. This year I took one look and said no thanks. I’m sure there are MANY players in that boat with me.
Try it, I am almost willing to bet that you and all others that don't want to try it in this topic will be able to get at least 75 points (and then those 25 points are not that crazy with PXP). I am old and offline only veteran difficulty enjoyer and before extreme I played only 2 legend games in DQ that I both won in overtime 1:0 (and still did not get rewards btw haha), I don't think I had single hit in those games. And over weekend I managed to complete the extreme program completely somehow. I will not act like it was easy, especially for players like us that just chill on lower difficulties, but it is definitely doable. I think you will be surprised by how much and how quickly you improve when you try to play on higher difficulties.
I can give few tips to anyone who is interested, I believe with those anyone will be able to finish Conquest and DQ eventually. Showdown is different story, I still can't believe how I completed it. Seemed like someone in SDS wants me to complete it, I am talking about luck like having only 1 hit against Donaldson which was 3 point homer, then getting hit by pitch, stealing to third and winning it on passed ball with one out remaining - this type of luck
