Make or break day
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@CDNMoneyMaker93 I agree with you that content is a problem by the way. I just don’t think they will change anything for this drop, and I don’t think they’ll apologize for anything until things are changed. I do hope I’m wrong though
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@CDNMoneyMaker93 said in Make or break day:
@Loyal-Wiglaf said in Make or break day:
I couldn't care less about content at this point because I'm disengaged due to the xp and stub nerfing. I can't make this mode my second full-time job anymore, so it's dead to me. (I'm a franchise guy at heart anyway.)
What IS "make-or-break" for me is whether or not they APOLOGIZE to the community for things they should apologize for -- the Switch issue, the accounts being wiped issue, the bugs and glitches at launch (rookie CPU pitching, e.g.). Things like that. Not apologizing for becoming predatory EA wannabes this year is not necessary. As a consumer, I can see that their direction is blatantly clear, and godspeed to them.
Remember: the Gran Turismo guy apologized, CDPR apologized, No Man's Sky apologized, and more. All these games rehabilitated their reps by being real with their communities and fixing the issues. NOT by going dark, refusing to apologize, and jumping on issues that only affect monetization (ahem: BR rewards, RTTS exploit, etc.).
Agreed and maybe this is more what I mean but I tied it to content when the points you make are very very valid
Cool, thanks.
And "at a minimum show that they are listening" is not enough for me and for people with my psychological profile, lol. (Highly conscientious and solicitous towards others but also highly judgmental when others aren't -- stated neutrally.)
It's not difficult -- YOU APOLOGIZE. Period. It's literally pre-school morality.
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There is no way that they are going to address anything you want them to address. This will be the standard content hype stream and nothing else. If you believe that they are going to make any significant changes or apologize for anything then you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.
I personally don't see them changing the structure mid season. If changes are going to happen, and that is a big if, I would expect it at the beginning of a new season.
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I could care less about content, packs, stubs, seasons, etc. I want polish, solid server performance and higher quality gameplay.
As far as content goes they are on par if not doing MORE than they did with 23. They have failed dramatically on gameplay and mechanics.
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@Dolenz said in Make or break day:
There is no way that they are going to address anything you want them to address. This will be the standard content hype stream and nothing else. If you believe that they are going to make any significant changes or apologize for anything then you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.
I personally don't see them changing the structure mid season. If changes are going to happen, and that is a big if, I would expect it at the beginning of a new season.
I don't expect them to change anything about DD's structure, including xp and stubs. I actually think you ride it out and go hard and see how things land.
And I certainly don't expect them to apologize, so I'm not setting myself up for anything. If they do, I might [censored] myself.
But I think a LOT of people in the community will be utterly grossed out if they do the typical cringe hype bullsh1t with the wooden Q and A and pathetic shout-out-to-card-art-people while ignoring that their house is on fire. I will be. I think a lot of others will be, too. And that will do more damage to a consumer like me than not changing xp and stub strategies.
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@Dolenz said in Make or break day:
There is no way that they are going to address anything you want them to address. This will be the standard content hype stream and nothing else. If you believe that they are going to make any significant changes or apologize for anything then you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.
I personally don't see them changing the structure mid season. If changes are going to happen, and that is a big if, I would expect it at the beginning of a new season.
I think that because I have spent many, many hours playing this game that I want to remain hopeful that it goes back to what it was
That said based on the track record I'm ready to be hurt again
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@CDNMoneyMaker93 said in Make or break day:
@Dolenz said in Make or break day:
There is no way that they are going to address anything you want them to address. This will be the standard content hype stream and nothing else. If you believe that they are going to make any significant changes or apologize for anything then you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.
I personally don't see them changing the structure mid season. If changes are going to happen, and that is a big if, I would expect it at the beginning of a new season.
I think that because I have spent many, many hours playing this game that I want to remain hopeful that it goes back to what it was
That said based on the track record I'm ready to be hurt again
Cycle of abuse, lol. Call a help hotline. Or wait until you hit your bottom, like I did about a month ago...
I'm with you, friend. Not playing the game with you, but in spirit.
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@Loyal-Wiglaf said in Make or break day:
But I think a LOT of people in the community will be utterly grossed out if they do the typical cringe hype bullsh1t with the wooden Q and A and pathetic shout-out-to-card-art-people while ignoring that their house is on fire. I will be. I think a lot of others will be, too. And that will do more damage to a consumer like me than not changing xp and stub strategies.
What, you don't like the "I'm so glad you asked that question you were obviously scripted to ask!" banter?
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@Loyal-Wiglaf said in Make or break day:
But I think a LOT of people in the community will be utterly grossed out if they do the typical cringe hype bullsh1t with the wooden Q and A and pathetic shout-out-to-card-art-people while ignoring that their house is on fire. I will be. I think a lot of others will be, too. And that will do more damage to a consumer like me than not changing xp and stub strategies.
People always hate on the live streams. Are the scripted? Yes. Are they cringe for many? Yes. I don't expect the format to change.
I don't mind them myself. I also don't find them particularly necessary when 95% of the cards are revealed on twitter before the stream even happens.
Personally I would suggest skipping the live stream if you hate it that much. If anything worthwhile is mentioned you can watch it on YouTube after the fact, making liberal use of the ability to skip around to the parts you are interested in, or even watch it at a faster speed.
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@Skarmaen said in Make or break day:
@Loyal-Wiglaf said in Make or break day:
But I think a LOT of people in the community will be utterly grossed out if they do the typical cringe hype bullsh1t with the wooden Q and A and pathetic shout-out-to-card-art-people while ignoring that their house is on fire. I will be. I think a lot of others will be, too. And that will do more damage to a consumer like me than not changing xp and stub strategies.
What, you don't like the "I'm so glad you asked that question you were obviously scripted to ask!" banter?
When it was Roman, Luis, and Steven at least it felt natural and had chemistry. It's crazy they hired the streamer Ashely to be this lead presenter and it has never felt more stiff and plastic.
I keep saying the fall of SDS is gonna be one heck of a Netflix documentary
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@Dolenz said in Make or break day:
@Loyal-Wiglaf said in Make or break day:
But I think a LOT of people in the community will be utterly grossed out if they do the typical cringe hype bullsh1t with the wooden Q and A and pathetic shout-out-to-card-art-people while ignoring that their house is on fire. I will be. I think a lot of others will be, too. And that will do more damage to a consumer like me than not changing xp and stub strategies.
People always hate on the live streams. Are the scripted? Yes. Are they cringe for many? Yes. I don't expect the format to change.
I don't mind them myself. I also don't find them particularly necessary when 95% of the cards are revealed on twitter before the stream even happens.
Personally I would suggest skipping the live stream if you hate it that much. If anything worthwhile is mentioned you can watch it on YouTube after the fact, making liberal use of the ability to skip around to the parts you are interested in, or even watch it at a faster speed.
Uh, what? I couldn't care less about a cringe live stream if they hadn't shat all over their community the whole cycle. My only interest in it is to see whether or not they man up and actually address the community and apologize.
I'm not "people," and I haven't "always hated on" these livestreams. My position was very specific and very clear. The cringe becomes insulting IF they don't address the real stuff. That shouldn't be hard to understand.
But thanks for your suggestion, lol.
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Make or break for me starts with S2. If S2 isn't radically different then my time playing will be much shorter than it usually is and frankly, if this is the same setup for next year then my days playing this game are done.
One of my biggest gripes was realizing that even with tomorrow's content that I won't be able to get one of the S1 bosses. I will still be 15 or so cards short and that's with spending roughly 150K to buy up as many of the 10K and under cards as possible. So unless I drop another 100-150K then I'm basically waiting until the last week to finally get one of these cards to play with only to have the rug pulled by the end of S1.
I sold off my Albies, Goodrum, Elly, Happ and Moncada at the beginning of the week and likely won't buy them back because I won't get to use them in S2. I rarely sell off cards because I am always flush with stubs (still am at 3.2M) but this year, knowing I can't carry forward cards (unless Core) I decided to sell so I had max stubs heading into S2.
XP path is annoying but less so given no purchases need to take place to obtain these cards but the fact we still won't have much opportunity to use them (unless you no life the game (cough 2 hours spent on rookie playing the cpu with custom rosters) is frustrating.
So TLDR: S2 is the make or break for me.
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@CDNMoneyMaker93 said in Make or break day:
@Skarmaen said in Make or break day:
@Loyal-Wiglaf said in Make or break day:
But I think a LOT of people in the community will be utterly grossed out if they do the typical cringe hype bullsh1t with the wooden Q and A and pathetic shout-out-to-card-art-people while ignoring that their house is on fire. I will be. I think a lot of others will be, too. And that will do more damage to a consumer like me than not changing xp and stub strategies.
What, you don't like the "I'm so glad you asked that question you were obviously scripted to ask!" banter?
When it was Roman, Luis, and Steven at least it felt natural and had chemistry. It's crazy they hired the streamer Ashely to be this lead presenter and it has never felt more stiff and plastic.
I keep saying the fall of SDS is gonna be one heck of a Netflix documentary
Yeah, it's the B Team for sure. I think the only thing that might save it for me if they don't apologize -- I don't think they will -- would be an appearance by CBrev. But then if he shills out, that would be the worst possible thing...
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While I think the communication from SDS is inexcusably bad with responses to issues, comparing the game to Cyberpunk or NMS is some disingenuous nonsense.
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@CDNMoneyMaker93 said in Make or break day:
When it was Roman, Luis, and Steven at least it felt natural and had chemistry
Luis and Steven were baseball fans and that showed. I think Tips was hired because he was such a big fan and caught their eye.
But yeah, that's all gone and it's just people trying to put lipstick on a pig.
I do have a sickos type interest in the chat today though.
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@CDNMoneyMaker93 said in Make or break day:
As someone who has spent the last 2 to 3 years on here really defending and finding the good in most of what SDS does for content today as become my make or break day.
I don't need to point out everything wrong with content it's been stated to the moon and back, that said today's content and the content stream will determine for me and I think many others how invested and engaged we are the rest of the way.
So far the TA reveals are sub par at best nothing exciting and many we have had as TA bosses many times.
So for me there will be two main things I am looking for
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Do they address any of the cristism during the stream, this would at minimum show they are listening and seeing what's going on. I don't see that it's likely but it's what I need to see.
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Any indication that content will be spaced out better, this waiting 4 weeks and dropping a massive amount of refreshes isn't enjoyable break this stuff up and give me a reason to log in each day
All they had to do was copy and paste the DD format from 2019, and just add new content every year. I'm not sure which corporate stooge has messed this up so badly.
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Agree but the truth is we might not see real progress until season two as I am guessing most of season 1 was pretty much locked in and made it hard to change much outside of maybe XP and Stub reward values. I do agree what is said on the stream in a few hours will say a lot cause we have not even gotten an apology for how bad of a launch this was in terms of bugs and such. Also not saying I wants free stuff just want them to shoot straight with us and show they are listening to all the feedback.
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@Teak2112 said in Make or break day:
While I think the communication from SDS is inexcusably bad with responses to issues, comparing the game to Cyberpunk or NMS is some disingenuous nonsense.
First off, why?
Secondly, I never compared the games per se; I was comparing dev responses, specifically the willingness to apologize.
In that sense, the game or studio doesn't even matter -- the willingness to act like an authentic human does.
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@Skarmaen said in Make or break day:
@CDNMoneyMaker93 said in Make or break day:
When it was Roman, Luis, and Steven at least it felt natural and had chemistry
I do have a sickos type interest in the chat today though.
This, 100%.
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I think the stuff everyone is waiting to hear will be during the season 2 stream, Not today….But spoiler alert - They will stick to the plan nomatter the uproar. Like some in this thread have already mentioned - This stuff is planned before the game even comes out. So if anyone has hopes of them “changing course” and just doing away with expiring cards or not hiding the wild cards in the reward path…I’m afraid I’ve got some bad news.
