This game is dead the casuals have left
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For anyone else who cares about the streams argument that active players translate to stream viewership:
Twitch Numbers
CoD: Warzone - 21.6 Mil followers ~60k concurrent viewers
Fortnite - 93.1 Mil followers ~85k concurrent viewers
FIFA 23 - 3.4 Mil followers ~100 concurrent viewers
Madden 24 - 137k followers ~1.5k concurrent viewers
MLB The Show 24 - 24.7k followers ~1.7k concurrent viewers
One thing to add is that's it's not football season and Madden 25 will be released this year probably going to do devastating numbers on The Show (NCAA already will too). FIFA as well will be releasing a new game so those numbers are currently that low because these games are in their final months until new one.
The only thing we can go buy now is how many downloads or game copies have been sold. We can't really get an accurate number on that. The Show isn't on PC so that makes it even harder and by default means less players.
This game is much easier to make an argument that it's dead than it is flourishing. And that's not me trying to be shitty that's just because I looked at the numbers.
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Muk Bang streams are down too, guess that means eating food is dead.
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@GixxerRyder750 What's the active playerbase count?
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@AdeptOfMemory Don't know, but as you stated, you don't need all the relevant data to come to your own conclusions.
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@GixxerRyder750 .........I gave you relevant data. What would be more accurate for you?
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@AdeptOfMemory it's your audience as well, games like cod, apex, fort, those type of games appeal to everyone, sports games are tough because those that play sports might like them, other pop games like BR games reign supreme, I remember mlb 18 was basically over ruled by fortnite.
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@AdeptOfMemory said in This game is dead the casuals have left:
The only thing we can go buy now is how many downloads or game copies have been sold. We can't really get an accurate number on that
Right here my guy...as stated by you...the most important piece of information needed. Cause you're trying to compare Streaming Viewership to people playing a videogame stating there is a direct relationship between the two.
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@chucky97___ So steaming numbers reflect that.....idk what's so hard to grasp about that statement for y'all. If the game isn't as popular and the category of game isn't as popular than it will simply not be as popular.
I bet you would get a similar result of you searched Pokemonn, hearthstone, or MTGA streams. That category of game isn't as popular as shooters or typical video games. Naturally those games have a smaller playerbase which reflects in a smaller stream usage. That's not hard to understand but SDS simps, oh I'm sorry I learned that hurts y'all's feelings a little bit, SDS chumps refuse to acknowledge a statistic that accurately reflects the size of a community. Y'all think I'm dense but holy [censored].....this is simple math not a Christopher Nolan film. -
@GixxerRyder750 IF YOU PULLED SALES THAT WOULD REFLECT THAT!!!! Holy [censored] you dense mother [censored].
There's no [censored] way The Show sells NEAR the numbers of CoD or Madden or FIFA holy [censored] dude you're dense
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@AdeptOfMemory Careful now, that kind of language might mean you can't watch any of your precious Twitch streams when Mommy takes away your puter time.
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@GixxerRyder750 said in This game is dead the casuals have left:
Muk Bang streams are down too, guess that means eating food is dead.
Or maybe it just means that Muk Bang is down?
Nobody's saying The Show streams being down means interest in baseball per se is down.
C'mon...
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The game is dead to me for sure. Sucks because I love playing baseball games but I’m not gonna spend $1k every season to buy all the players you would need to complete collections. SDS is killing the franchise.
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Game definitely has passed its peak and this years game is cooked. Sony needs to increase SDS’s budget to expand their dev team and reduce expectations on how much money they bring in. Either that or have a new developer make a MLB game because what ever this year is doing more harm than good to baseball in general.
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@Xx-Pisciotta said in This game is dead the casuals have left:
@AdeptOfMemory thank you Karen
Settle down Ken... I'm just kidding
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I play offline mainly and am extremely underwhelmed by the game this year. Maybe it's too many years of the same thing and I need to take a break.
I tried some online and while I had some good games, the OP is right where in the last few weeks, I've gone up against just great players.
The only online mode where I can get a competitive game vs someone near my skill set is the Casual online mode. There's no rankings in that mode and sometimes you'll have people quit, but I have had some great games on casual online with players who just wanted to play for fun. Even if I"m down 8-0 and the other guy is playing straight up I don't quit.
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@jake98833 no one was even talking to you jakey poo
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@VioletNine9 I ran into two people with negative records, so I know the truth :). Try and learn statistics and google the phrase „cognitive bias“
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Do you guys think Ross and Rachel stayed together on Friends?
@arvcpa_MLBTS let’s see if I get banned this time :).
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@Ericulous1 said in This game is dead the casuals have left:
Do you guys think Ross and Rachel stayed together on Friends?
@arvcpa let’s see if I get banned this time :).
If you get a ban, and orders in this thread don't, then thus year is definitely messed up.
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I'm as casual as they come for a DD player. I'd love to argue you're wrong but I have slowed down over last few weeks. Only thing that has kept me is completing programs for the fun of it. The 99's aren't getting the juices flowing but I'll still play some regardless. Everything just seems stale for some reason. Maybe it's the same cards over and over, maybe it's the same grind, maybe it's the desire to play online is nonexistent for various reasons - I don't know.
But I don't think it's accurate to say we "left", but it is accurate to say we're playing less.