Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year
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@GradektheBard said in Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year:
Glad to see you posted this whiney rant both here and Reddit. Got to make sure everyone saw the tears.
You are, by your own admission (flawless BR and 24-3 ranked record) a top 1% player. Guess what, if SDs makes the game for the top 1%, they will go out of business. And yes, they are in fact a for profit business, not some public good.
The median player in DD is not very good, plays for fun, and has no desire to “git gud”. That’s the base SDs needs to game design for if they want to maximize profits.
Yup, had to rant and I feel better for it. Glad you saw my post twice
And I agree that SDS has to make a game that is playable and enjoyable by their largest player base
But despite that, it doesn’t justify how bad pitching is this year
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@doobiebross66-72 it probably does justify it though, as I presume they have a ton of data that goes into gameplay decisions.
Let’s be honest here, if they made every very early swing vs a curve in the dirt a swing+miss, they’d probably lose 50% of their customers in a week. -
@doobiebross66-72 I lost a game 28-26 last night. Granted my opponent picked Capital Lange and it was on all star, but over 50 runs on 60 hits. It's impossible to pitch.
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@GradektheBard said in Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year:
Glad to see you posted this whiney rant both here and Reddit. Got to make sure everyone saw the tears.
You are, by your own admission (flawless BR and 24-3 ranked record) a top 1% player. Guess what, if SDs makes the game for the top 1%, they will go out of business. And yes, they are in fact a for profit business, not some public good.
The median player in DD is not very good, plays for fun, and has no desire to “git gud”. That’s the base SDs needs to game design for if they want to maximize profits.
the thing here, Ranked play is not meant to be "casual" ranked should be designed for better player wins, its not real life. The foul balls are absolutely brutal this year.
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I’ve seen some high scoring games, but they aren’t typical for the average player. Here are my last 8 BR games: 1-0 W, 5-4 L, 3-2 W, 5-1 W, 6-1 W, 1-0 L, 2-0 W, and 1-0 L. Not exactly high scoring
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@chucky97___ the better player does win though. If that wasn’t the case, we wouldn’t see the same names at the top of the leaderboards/going flawless multiple times/etc.
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@GradektheBard I should rephrase, not win but that shouldn't happen, the comeback logic/DDA in this years game so real. It's almost a guaranteed home run after the 6th straight foul ball. Bad swings need to be punished,I dont care if its a fluke single or hit, but the constant foul balls is what drives me up a wall. It just bails out bad to the median players. Their is no approach for some players, just step up to the plate and swing, in a ranked setting that shouldn't be rewarded.
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@GradektheBard I played 3 games last night, I scored 10, 26, and 18. I won one of those games, Pinpoint is brutal.
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@GradektheBard said in Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year:
@doobiebross66-72 it probably does justify it though, as I presume they have a ton of data that goes into gameplay decisions.
Let’s be honest here, if they made every very early swing vs a curve in the dirt a swing+miss, they’d probably lose 50% of their customers in a week.Doubt the percentage is nearly that high
And I agree, I’m sure they do make plenty of their gameplay design decisions based on empirical data
Still doesn’t justify that pitching is terrible this year
When have ERAs ever been as high as they are now? Maybe in 18? And we all know how the community viewed 18
I understand where you’re coming from and you’re generally a logical, level headed poster here. But there’s no defending how bad pitching is this year
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@chucky97___ said in Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year:
@doobiebross66-72 I lost a game 28-26 last night. Granted my opponent picked Capital Lange and it was on all star, but over 50 runs on 60 hits. It's impossible to pitch.
Agree. It’s dreadfully bad.
My last ranked game, I threw a 4SFB with Skenes to the new Bryce Harper
I started the pitch outside of the zone. The right edge of the ball barely grazing the outside part of the strike zone
Perfect input using pinpoint and the pitch ends up with the right side of the ball inside the middle square of the strike zone
That is indefensible
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This is one reason why I don't understand the top players prefer aeenado boost over buxton. Vision is not that important and I reached ws on my main account fairly easily. I still strike out on avg like 5-8 times on hof and legend. I guess I'd cut down those k's by half if I played with the arenafo boost. However, I'd be gimped with 7 out of 9 slow players and likely would give up more runs with the cost of a few xbh from slow guys.
Hitting is much easier and normally I wouldn't think of starting 4 guys with 50's vision. (I do the tier 2 buxton boost on hof with 4 guys starting, 4 guys on the bench) -
In my thread on Reddit, someone tracked how many foul tips/balls they gave up on a Ranked HOF game
63
Absolutely pathetic
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@chucky97___
Too many foul balls are basically due to a combination of things such as playing on All-Star (and below) and Pitchers having lower K/9's at this point in the game cycle... Once the Pitcher cards improve, this issue should improve. They obviously did not optimize their gameplay for AS, as this game plays better on HOF. -
@xElRojo44x said in Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year:
@chucky97___
Too many foul balls are basically due to a combination of things such as playing on All-Star (and below) and Pitchers having lower K/9's at this point in the game cycle... Once the Pitcher cards improve, this issue should improve. They obviously did not optimize their gameplay for AS, as this game plays better on HOF.Personally, I credit the foul off issue to the outer PCI
Since they added an outer PCI, foul tips/balls have been an issue
I still can’t wrap my head around what the outer PCI is supposed to represent or do outside of bailing out free swingers
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@xElRojo44x I've played on both, hall of fame is just as bad. I've also had the worst luck in a week span, went on little winning streak last season, hit a home run to make it a 3 run game, then the game froze, that game would have put me in the 880's instead I had to take an L.
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@xElRojo44x And the foul ball outcomes are random, i could have 10 bad swings that go in play and are for outs, while my opponent can have 10 bad swings and result in balls out of play. The game is bad right now and it kills me to say that. Ncaa is getting closer and closer.
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@Shauwn Arrenado boost is contact, contact and vision are super important, higher vision results in better timing windows.
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So people who use analog are dotting most of the time?
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@Jaychvz- said in Pitching is Abysmally Bad This Year:
So people who use analog are dotting most of the time?
I’ve used both analog and pinpoint a good amount
My experience is that you can dot much better with analog IF you have perfect input. The catch with analog is that if you miss the line going down, and/or miss the target going up, it’s much less forgiving than pinpoint and you’ll hang pitches
With pinpoint, it’s much easier to get perfect input but there’s more randomness in terms of where the pitch ends up. More often than not, with perfect input, a pitch using pinpoint ends up on the extreme edge of the PAR. Pinpoint is more forgiving if you have bad input
Heavily considering going back to analog
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Why do some of my opponents get 90% perfects with bronze/common pitchers and no energy?
