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  • PaullyG24_PSNP Offline
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    Here we are again. What angers me, albeit probably unnecessarily, is that this [censored] is being done and the devs will never admit it. The conquest sliders are completely altered. I’ve been playing for years. I’m legit good. It’s not that it’s hard. But these Rookie games are still ending 1-0 or 2-0. The timing is consistently good, PCI spot on. And the ball goes nowhere. It’s rookie. Rookie. The devs are rigging this so we can’t stat grind. So we all spend more time logged in. That’s the motive. I think all I want is my theory validated. Nothing has to change. But I feel like I’m going nuts with this [censored]. It’s the principle of the matter that’s the most frustrating.

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  • TheGoaler_PSNT Offline
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    You're right about the Sliders.
    I never play Conquest games below Veteran. That's not saying much, but the game doesn't play right on Rookie, so I avoid it.
    Even if I have the option, I say 'nah, bro.' Rookie is a nightmare in Conquest.

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  • dap1234567890_PSND Offline
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    @PaullyG24_PSN said in Conquest Insanity:

    Here we are again. What angers me, albeit probably unnecessarily, is that this [censored] is being done and the devs will never admit it. The conquest sliders are completely altered. I’ve been playing for years. I’m legit good. It’s not that it’s hard. But these Rookie games are still ending 1-0 or 2-0. The timing is consistently good, PCI spot on. And the ball goes nowhere. It’s rookie. Rookie. The devs are rigging this so we can’t stat grind. So we all spend more time logged in. That’s the motive. I think all I want is my theory validated. Nothing has to change. But I feel like I’m going nuts with this [censored]. It’s the principle of the matter that’s the most frustrating.

    1. If you have to tell people you are legit, that kind of makes it questionable!
    2. I know you have said this in the past about Conquest and you believe there is some kind of SDS conspiracy theory behind the coding and sliders to make all Conquest games narrow victories with few runs scored at most...but that just is not true. See my post here.
    3. I assume that it is low scoring for you because you are probably in a rush to get through the map and each of the games to the point that you lose the plate discipline to wait for the best pitches which results in the low scoring in each game.
    4. A lot of times we use cards in Conquest that we are trying to get PXP or stat missions done, so we are not using the best players that we hit with regularly, so that also affects our offensive output.
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  • Redd666ish_PSNR Offline
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    Play on veteran you will hit better. It doesn’t have to make sense intellectually the fact is that Rookie is not the easiest mode to hit in.

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  • fubar2k7_PSNF Offline
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    What everyone else said. Ball moves weirdly slow on rookie in conquest.

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  • BeetleCoyote832_XBLB Offline
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    Agreed. It’s crazy that when you move over to Play vs CPU on Rookie, it plays extremely different. That’s when you can put up 35+ runs.

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  • genopolanco_PSNG Offline
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    My theory is it’s because stamina is partially drained in conquest. You’d think that would make it easier, but I think it actually just causes the CPU to throw more balls instead of strikes.

    I know when I struggle to put up runs in a conquest game it’s because I’m not waiting for strikes. I’m rushing through it.

    I do think it’s a little ridiculous that even on Veteran the CPU will constantly throw balls. I’m frequently in 2-0, 3-0, 3-1 counts against the CPU. Sometimes I just get sick of it and start swinging at anything close. I also lose timing because I’m just watching balls being thrown over and over, I’m not even ready for a strike.

    VS CPU, they seem to throw more strikes early in the count. Until you knock them around and their energy and confidence drains.

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  • lucas8181_PSNL Offline
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    All-Star is the easiest difficulty. I'll win a game on Rookie 1-0. I can score double digit runs on All-Star more times than not.

    No Idea why, and I don't care enough to explore it further.

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  • PaullyG24_PSNP Offline
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    It’s just nice to know I’m not the only one who’s noticing this. That’s really all I wanted.

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  • TEXAS10PT_PSNT Offline
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    Did the FS moments to get some players. Played the map all on AS and got more players as I went. Map completed and I’m up to Kopech. Moral don’t play the map on Rookie

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  • Ericulous1_PSNE Offline
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    The key to destroying the CPU is simple but annoying. Be patient and once you start hitting, it becomes BP. But if you make quick outs, the pitcher becomes a lot more challenging. Do I know this to be fact. Of course not, but it seems to work for me. I definitely have my fair share of 1-0 games and it’s because I swung swing at the first pitch over and over. Even if I make solid contact, it’s like it’s punishing me for not being patient.

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    @Ericulous1_PSN said in Conquest Insanity:

    The key to destroying the CPU is simple but annoying. Be patient and once you start hitting, it becomes BP. But if you make quick outs, the pitcher becomes a lot more challenging. Do I know this to be fact. Of course not, but it seems to work for me. I definitely have my fair share of 1-0 games and it’s because I swung swing at the first pitch over and over. Even if I make solid contact, it’s like it’s punishing me for not being patient.

    I beat Bobby Miller 9-0 on AS in Conquest with a bunch of FS scrubs and then the next game beat him 1-0. Consistency lol

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  • Th3_Th1n_M4n-o_0_PSNT Offline
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    @lucas8181_PSN said in Conquest Insanity:

    All-Star is the easiest difficulty. I'll win a game on Rookie 1-0. I can score double digit runs on All-Star more times than not.

    No Idea why, and I don't care enough to explore it further.

    This 100%

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    @PaullyG24_PSN said in Conquest Insanity:

    Here we are again. What angers me, albeit probably unnecessarily, is that this [censored] is being done and the devs will never admit it. The conquest sliders are completely altered. I’ve been playing for years. I’m legit good. It’s not that it’s hard. But these Rookie games are still ending 1-0 or 2-0. The timing is consistently good, PCI spot on. And the ball goes nowhere. It’s rookie. Rookie. The devs are rigging this so we can’t stat grind. So we all spend more time logged in. That’s the motive. I think all I want is my theory validated. Nothing has to change. But I feel like I’m going nuts with this [censored]. It’s the principle of the matter that’s the most frustrating.

    Showdown pretty much is its own difficulty also. I've pretty much given up on both as they seem to be 40% luck 60% skill

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  • Dolenz_PSND Offline
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    I played the Conquest today, although I played on Veteran.

    Won 1-0
    Won 4-0
    Won 2-0
    Won 14-1 (Take that Yankees)
    Won 9-1
    Won 6-0
    Won 8-0

    If anything I played better in this conquest than I have in any of the others.

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  • ChuckCLC_PSNC Offline
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    Never had luck playing "rookie" on anything. I hate when Moments are locked on rookie, and I never play conquest on rookie. Just for the reason mentioned above. Hitting sucks. Always has been. I play on AS so my timing is good and the ball jumps off the bat. Occasionally Veteran, but my hitting is never better on vet, just easier to not give up runs.

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  • romeischillin_PSNR Offline
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    It's not the sliders... some games you just play better than you do others... I legit played Mini Seasons against the same team in the usual two game series and won the first game 7-0 pitching a perfect game or no-hitter, and lost the second game 2-1 in extras... I left my starter in to get as much PXP for him for a mission when I should've just took him out and pitched him in conquest to get the last of the PXP.

    Similar thing happened in Conquest... I lost the first stronghold game 2-1 in extras and then won the second game immediately after and won like 4-0 or something like that.

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  • GixxerRyder750_PSNG Online
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    Yep, I've had 1-0 Extra Innings sweat fests and I've chased the starting pitcher off mound after scoring 5 runs on 5 pitches. Some days your the bug, some days your the windshield.

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  • JoeSelser_PSNJ Offline
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    Same. It's annoying. I'll have games that I'll rake, then I'll go through a 5/6 game stretch where no matter my approach, patient or anxious...nothing falls in, power dwindles, and it's just not hitting. my fielders get stuck in mud. Especially my middle infielders who have diamond defense. They can't get to anything up the middle but when I'm raking they get to everything. Rookie and veteran. I don't get it.

    2 weeks ago, doing the USA map, I literally lost 8 games in a row to the Marlins who took over the majority of the SE region. No matter what i played on. Rookie or veteran. Game scores like 2-1 1-0 etc etc...and the games I did score, the Marlins would come back in every game. Anything I could do, they could do better. Insanity. Fouling of pitches, diving stabs, leaping catches at the wall, coming back from 3 runs down 3 times in a row..... ughh

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  • Ledfoot_19_PSNL Offline
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    While I think moments may have some shenanigans I'm not so sure there are any in conquest. I've always felt it easier to hit on Veteran than Rookie but overall I think the human element plays a bigger role. I have days where I'm not that into playing but need to grind the stats and I find a slight lack of focus along with hurry up and grind stats attitude leads to a lot of 1 - 0 games. When I'm in the mood to enjoy the game I can put up 6-12 runs.

    Sure there is an element of randomness to it but that has to be there. I'll use the same pitcher and as a result face the same pitcher a couple times when stealing fans. One game I'll lump him up the next he's shutting me down. That's baseball.

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