Ranked and BR Change Explanation
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Pergo_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
Are you seriously going to try and say that older games "actually worked"? There were never any bugs or issues with older games? That's just crazy.
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Thanks for paying attention. In the days before online play I NEVER had any crashing, grinding for access to cards, etc. because you got it all UP FRONT.
But as usual the "get gud" bullies who think this game is for them and ONLY them want to leave it where it is headed because so long as they get access to everything then that's fine.
Please don't bother with a reply because I don't feel like dealing with people who feel that they are superior to everyone else and therefore their opinion is the only one that should be heard.
First off I don't feel I am superior to anyone and I am all for everyones opinion being heard. Interesting that you then tell me not to reply, kind of sounds like you don't want everyones opinion to be heard?
And I am not one of the "get gud" guys, so I have no idea where you got that from. I'm average at the game and struggle to get much higher then the 600s in ranked and have never even come close to going flawless in BR. Maybe you got me confused with someone else.
But now you're moving the goalposts and talking about grinding for content, when I was replying to your statement that older games just always worked. That's simply not the case. Older games had TONS of bugs. Its always been a part of all video games. That's just the reality of the situation.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
I love how people use the argument of participation trophy and compare this to real life or real baseball in general. It’s a video game, a temporary escape, where we can shut down and chill. I’m not looking to make it my life’s goal. To those that choose to be super competitive that’s great for you but most of us are just trying to relax not compete at the highest level. Stub vouchers would be more than sufficient. Shutting out players based on skill level is ridiculous and has shown to create a huge divide in the player base between those that live and die by the game and those just looking to play video game baseball with their favorite players and legends. Never gonna make everyone happy but catering to the minority and taking away from the majority to simply have access to the best players in the game is not a good business strategy long term. Those that think it is are clearly on the competitive player side of the fence or striving to get there. Not all of us play for extreme competition, we might just be playing for fun, because at the end of the day it is just a video game.
Its kind of interesting, because I share the same mindset as you in terms of it just being a video game and I just play for fun and as an escape, but that's why I don't really care about this change all that much. If a card is released in Ranked or BR that I really want, I'll work through the program and get it and use it. If there isn't a card I want I just won't bother doing the program and will just continue playing for fun. Whether or not I can sell them is kind of irrelevant to me. I just play for fun and try to get the cards I want to use and don't try to get the cards I don't want to use.
absolutely mate and well said
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Fake elitism about a video game lol y’all sound weird and need some time for self reflection
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Online has ruined video games. The ability to release half finished games with multiple patches while charging full price is pretty hilarious, the fact that most people just accept it full stop is even funnier lol
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@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
There really is no reason to make both of those programs non-sellable. BR program was fine. RS program was too easy and that is why the rewards were 30k. They just needed to make the RS program a little tougher which they did while also making reward unsellable. The end result will be the elite gets richer and less people will play those modes.
Last part of the last sentence.
I am usually done with the BR Program by now. Or close to being done. However, since this program was released, I've played a total of three BR games.
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
I love how people use the argument of participation trophy and compare this to real life or real baseball in general. It’s a video game, a temporary escape, where we can shut down and chill. I’m not looking to make it my life’s goal. To those that choose to be super competitive that’s great for you but most of us are just trying to relax not compete at the highest level. Stub vouchers would be more than sufficient. Shutting out players based on skill level is ridiculous and has shown to create a huge divide in the player base between those that live and die by the game and those just looking to play video game baseball with their favorite players and legends. Never gonna make everyone happy but catering to the minority and taking away from the majority to simply have access to the best players in the game is not a good business strategy long term. Those that think it is are clearly on the competitive player side of the fence or striving to get there. Not all of us play for extreme competition, we might just be playing for fun, because at the end of the day it is just a video game.
Its kind of interesting, because I share the same mindset as you in terms of it just being a video game and I just play for fun and as an escape, but that's why I don't really care about this change all that much. If a card is released in Ranked or BR that I really want, I'll work through the program and get it and use it. If there isn't a card I want I just won't bother doing the program and will just continue playing for fun. Whether or not I can sell them is kind of irrelevant to me. I just play for fun and try to get the cards I want to use and don't try to get the cards I don't want to use.
You see but what this does is make fewer players in that program which is an L imo.
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@darkblue1876_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@nashbandicoot1_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
Exclusivity is a good thing. I want to be able to use a card that not many others have. Game was watered down and constantly catering to the general public. This is a massive W
So "I got mine, too bad for you" eh?
They could still give us lower tier players chances to earn the card but telling 99% of the customers they pay full price for 60% of the game is garbage.
But that's how the "get gud" crowd has always been. They want the game for themselves, and ONLY for themselves. Everyone else can just shut up and take it while they "sMasH nOObs" and pat themselves on the back.
It’s card collection 101. The cards most cherished are the rarest of the rare. It isn’t about stubs directly. It should be difficult to get the best cards in the game. They should be rare. It makes using them more meaningful. Honestly, the whole introduction of Ranked and BR programs has watered down the game tremendously. I miss the days of MLB 17 where Bryce Harper and Jeff Bagwell had hundreds of orders at the max sale price. You could either put in an order and wait a week or 2… or go 12-0. Made those cards so much better to have
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Exactly. That is your trophy for participating. If you actually win by going 12-0 you will get a card you can sell. Glad we all got that cleared up now.
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@baseball229056_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Exactly. That is your trophy for participating. If you actually win by going 12-0 you will get a card you can sell. Glad we all got that cleared up now.
Wrong. I earned it by completing the assigned task to acquire the card.
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Dude they’re not going to change their mind. Give it a rest.
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@baseball229056_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Exactly. That is your trophy for participating. If you actually win by going 12-0 you will get a card you can sell. Glad we all got that cleared up now.
Wrong. I earned it by completing the assigned task to acquire the card.
Wrong, you earned the card. That’s the award for completing the program. Everything else is warrantless complaining. Goodnight!!!!
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@baseball229056_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Exactly. That is your trophy for participating. If you actually win by going 12-0 you will get a card you can sell. Glad we all got that cleared up now.
Wrong. I earned it by completing the assigned task to acquire the card.
Wrong, you earned the card. That’s the award for completing the program. Everything else is warrantless complaining. Goodnight!!!!
Finally! Yes, I earned the card. Therefore, since I earned it, I should be able to do with it what I want. Goodnight to you as well.
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Dude they’re not going to change their mind. Give it a rest.
If the streamers and the elites can whine and cry until they get there way, then so can I.
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@baseball229056_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Exactly. That is your trophy for participating. If you actually win by going 12-0 you will get a card you can sell. Glad we all got that cleared up now.
Wrong. I earned it by completing the assigned task to acquire the card.
Wrong, you earned the card. That’s the award for completing the program. Everything else is warrantless complaining. Goodnight!!!!
Finally! Yes, I earned the card. Therefore, since I earned it, I should be able to do with it what I want. Goodnight to you as well.
That’s where you’re wrong, you don’t get to do whatever you want with card. You get two options, use it or don’t use it. Those are the only options according to the game. And you pounding your fists on the ground and screaming at the sky doesn’t change those options. ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Dude they’re not going to change their mind. Give it a rest.
If the streamers and the elites can whine and cry until they get there way, then so can I.
All you’ll do is complain yourself into a ban is my guess. I’m done with this childish argument.
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@nashbandicoot1_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@darkblue1876_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@nashbandicoot1_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
Exclusivity is a good thing. I want to be able to use a card that not many others have. Game was watered down and constantly catering to the general public. This is a massive W
So "I got mine, too bad for you" eh?
They could still give us lower tier players chances to earn the card but telling 99% of the customers they pay full price for 60% of the game is garbage.
But that's how the "get gud" crowd has always been. They want the game for themselves, and ONLY for themselves. Everyone else can just shut up and take it while they "sMasH nOObs" and pat themselves on the back.
It’s card collection 101. The cards most cherished are the rarest of the rare. It isn’t about stubs directly. It should be difficult to get the best cards in the game. They should be rare. It makes using them more meaningful. Honestly, the whole introduction of Ranked and BR programs has watered down the game tremendously. I miss the days of MLB 17 where Bryce Harper and Jeff Bagwell had hundreds of orders at the max sale price. You could either put in an order and wait a week or 2… or go 12-0. Made those cards so much better to have
i completely agree with you - and it is refreshing to hear that a bunch of us feel the same sentiments on this issue - rarity is a good thing - even if i cannot go 12-0 in todays game, i appreciate that for those who make that milestone get something super rare or something great to show for it
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@Pergo_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@darkblue1876_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Pergo_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
Are you seriously going to try and say that older games "actually worked"? There were never any bugs or issues with older games? That's just crazy.
Yes, that's exactly what I am saying. Thanks for paying attention. In the days before online play I NEVER had any crashing, grinding for access to cards, etc. because you got it all UP FRONT.
But as usual the "get gud" bullies who think this game is for them and ONLY them want to leave it where it is headed because so long as they get access to everything then that's fine.
Please don't bother with a reply because I don't feel like dealing with people who feel that they are superior to everyone else and therefore their opinion is the only one that should be heard.
First off I don't feel I am superior to anyone and I am all for everyones opinion being heard. Interesting that you then tell me not to reply, kind of sounds like you don't want everyones opinion to be heard?
And I am not one of the "get gud" guys, so I have no idea where you got that from. I'm average at the game and struggle to get much higher then the 600s in ranked and have never even come close to going flawless in BR. Maybe you got me confused with someone else.
But now you're moving the goalposts and talking about grinding for content, when I was replying to your statement that older games just always worked. That's simply not the case. Older games had TONS of bugs. Its always been a part of all video games. That's just the reality of the situation.
Except you're wrong. Before patches, very few games had bugs. Clunky mechanics? Sure, but don't tell us this game doesn't have flawed mechanics that they don't address and COULD, as opposed to pre-2006 console gaming.
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@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@baseball229056_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@DemIsE4_XBL said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@SaveFarris_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
The program is not cost-efficient enough for an average to causal player to do the program.
It was never supposed to be. The fact is was becoming that is why they changed it.
Want to sell the rewards? Get Gooder. (I'm not. But then again, I was never selling the rewards anyway.)
It was only supposed to be profitable for the 1%? well, let's see...I think I will call that ...Elitist and snobbish
I’d like to know where you are getting this 1% number. Is this an actual stat? And if it is, please leave a citation as to where we can go to find this info. And if it is just some arbitrary number that you pulled from your nether regions please say so so we can move on and completely discount anything you say as bull—— because that’s what people do to those who fudge numbers just to justify their position or make a point.
If you really want, you could look at the number of people that make WS and then look at all the people that that have played an RS game. This doesn't even include the offline people. I think you would find that number less than 1%. 12-0 is even a more rare accomplishment.
I’m not saying that this isn’t true, but if we are going to use numbers and percentages then it is always best to include where this info can found otherwise we probably shouldn’t be using statistical information because it just doesn’t make your argument plausible. It’s more likely he just made this number up to justify his point which makes his argument implausible. I’ve made this point numerous times. There is a way to present a legitimate argument without using statistics that haven’t been vetted. For example, the OP could have used the term “Majority” rather than assigning an exact value. But this particular poster has used multiple threads to pedal this temper tantrum they are having even after the explanation was delivered by the company that makes this title. It has gotten old.
What has gotten old to me is people blindly defending this indefensible choice that are clearly geared to the elite and their own wallets at the expense of the avg to the casual player.
I promise I'm just as tired of the stuff people opposing my POV are saying. For example. Take the participation trophy comment that keeps being made. Someone like me grinds BR for 8-10 hours or more for ONE card. Playing the same people on the same difficulty as everyone else. My 8-10+ hour grind for ONE card is not earning it...NO it's being handed to me, it's a participation trophy. Snobbish...Elites!
Exactly. That is your trophy for participating. If you actually win by going 12-0 you will get a card you can sell. Glad we all got that cleared up now.
Wrong. I earned it by completing the assigned task to acquire the card.
Wrong, you earned the card. That’s the award for completing the program. Everything else is warrantless complaining. Goodnight!!!!
Finally! Yes, I earned the card. Therefore, since I earned it, I should be able to do with it what I want. Goodnight to you as well.
Yeah, the gatekeeping for a video game is whack af. They should take the market out completely. Same for those that preach you should flip mindlessly to get stubs. Yeah, I have a full life, I'm not going to spend my hour or two of game time (if I can get that, even tougher in the summer) being a loser on a market simulation game that I thought was about a sport I love.
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@TheHungryHole said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@nashbandicoot1_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@darkblue1876_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
@nashbandicoot1_PSN said in Ranked and BR Change Explanation:
Exclusivity is a good thing. I want to be able to use a card that not many others have. Game was watered down and constantly catering to the general public. This is a massive W
So "I got mine, too bad for you" eh?
They could still give us lower tier players chances to earn the card but telling 99% of the customers they pay full price for 60% of the game is garbage.
But that's how the "get gud" crowd has always been. They want the game for themselves, and ONLY for themselves. Everyone else can just shut up and take it while they "sMasH nOObs" and pat themselves on the back.
It’s card collection 101. The cards most cherished are the rarest of the rare. It isn’t about stubs directly. It should be difficult to get the best cards in the game. They should be rare. It makes using them more meaningful. Honestly, the whole introduction of Ranked and BR programs has watered down the game tremendously. I miss the days of MLB 17 where Bryce Harper and Jeff Bagwell had hundreds of orders at the max sale price. You could either put in an order and wait a week or 2… or go 12-0. Made those cards so much better to have
i completely agree with you - and it is refreshing to hear that a bunch of us feel the same sentiments on this issue - rarity is a good thing - even if i cannot go 12-0 in todays game, i appreciate that for those who make that milestone get something super rare or something great to show for it
So let's take BR for example. Last season someone could go flawless and get the 90+ reward for usually around 100k. The flawless cards were still 130+ at the end. So they were getting 230k+ most of the time for a flawless run which takes them what about 3 hours. You also get a 12-0 banner which lets be real, gives you free wins in the event. I get free wins by having a WS banner. IMO, that is more than fair compensation.
Now lets take someone like me that likes to play online modes and would like to earn stubs while doing it. It takes me around 10 hours to do the BR program and for that I get a non-sellable card. Grinding that program for 10 hours is earning that card and I should be able to sell it once I have accomplished that. I believe they are also losing players in BR who have zero reason to play this mode unless they really want one of the flawless rewards. I, for instance, needed the core cards to get Seager and wanted a pitcher so I finished it. Had I not needed the core cards for Seager and Ryan been the reward, I would not have played it.
The issue with RS was the reward was down to 30k because the program was just too easy. The correct answer was to keep the BR sellable and make the RS program harder which they did. RS program grind is a lot now and people that finish it deserve to be able to sell that card after that grind. Just like BR, I think they will find the RS numbers decreasing due to the change which is really what they shouldn't want.
