SDS: Non-Sellable rewards
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@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Hikes83_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I’ve read through this and multiple other threads and I see good arguments from both sides. Probably nobody will care what I think but here’s my 2 cents.
If you go back 3 years ago, there were no programs for RS/BR. Only way to get these special cards were to make it to WS and go 12-0.
In my honest opinion, the way they just made set 2 is how it should’ve been implanted in the first place when they introduced programs.
Lets not kid ourselves, “programs” are a handout. If you’re gonna be handed out a special card for participating, it shouldn’t be worth as much as the one who earned his way to WS or 12-0 in BR. It’s a great way to encourage those who can’t make it or don’t have the time to get what was an unattainable before without having to spend 300-400K stubs.
They should just have stub vouchers for going 12-0/making world series. Gatekeeping the cards is dumb as hell. BR exploded in popularity when the program was added. If they implemented it from the start 3 years ago it would have been different. Taking things away from players is bad. I didn't play BR before the programs and I'm not doing so now. The number of players that feel the same as me I can almost guarantee is much higher than the 40 players total that wanted this.
None of what you have said is true. BR has always been a popular mode since it’s introduction a few years back. The only difference is the accessibility of the rewards which the good players said was only going to saturate the market which it did. Please tell me why you’re entitled to a sellable reward. Because the 12-0 guy gets it? So you’re telling me that your equal to that player? You see that’s the difference between equity and equality. You want to something for nothing while the other person earned his reward even though you are given the same opportunities as the 12-0 player. This is the scourge of socialism. Make everyone believe they are the same even when merit proves otherwise.
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Hikes83_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I’ve read through this and multiple other threads and I see good arguments from both sides. Probably nobody will care what I think but here’s my 2 cents.
If you go back 3 years ago, there were no programs for RS/BR. Only way to get these special cards were to make it to WS and go 12-0.
In my honest opinion, the way they just made set 2 is how it should’ve been implanted in the first place when they introduced programs.
Lets not kid ourselves, “programs” are a handout. If you’re gonna be handed out a special card for participating, it shouldn’t be worth as much as the one who earned his way to WS or 12-0 in BR. It’s a great way to encourage those who can’t make it or don’t have the time to get what was an unattainable before without having to spend 300-400K stubs.
They should just have stub vouchers for going 12-0/making world series. Gatekeeping the cards is dumb as hell. BR exploded in popularity when the program was added. If they implemented it from the start 3 years ago it would have been different. Taking things away from players is bad. I didn't play BR before the programs and I'm not doing so now. The number of players that feel the same as me I can almost guarantee is much higher than the 40 players total that wanted this.
None of what you have said is true. BR has always been a popular mode since it’s introduction a few years back. The only difference is the accessibility of the rewards which the good players said was only going to saturate the market which it did. Please tell me why you’re entitled to a sellable reward. Because the 12-0 guy gets it? So you’re telling me that your equal to that player? You see that’s the difference between equity and equality. You want to something for nothing while the other person earned his reward even though you are given the same opportunities as the 12-0 player. This is the scourge of socialism. Make everyone believe they are the same even when merit proves otherwise.
You are the least credible person on this forum and have been for years. I'm amazed they let you make a new account under the same exact name with lowercase letters and it didn't auto trigger a ban tbh. If you think casual online players played BR before the program you are delusional. The only ones that played BR before were capable 12-0 players and the "diamond make the game play bad crowd". It was a waste of time for everyone else
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@Bob_Loblaw1984 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Firestormx_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
Yep in years past I was motivated to play and get all the cards to play with in the game. It gave me something to strive for as an average player that will never be elite. Now that deal is long gone with the new direction, high end packs, and non sellable rewards. I can’t be the only one in this boat, was nice while it lasted.
Ok then stop trying to participate in a mode where elite players are playing. Just because you want something doesn’t give you the right have it. Either accept the reward that they give you for participating (the participation trophy ie the non sellable card) or stop playing the mode altogether and annoying us with your whining about why you can’t sell your trophy.
This is so insulting. Grinding 8-10 hours, playing the same people you are but winning less isn't a participation trophy. Elitist snobbish points of view like this are exactly whats wrong with this game.
Sometimes somebody has slap you for you to return to reality. Life is a competition. That’s not elitism thats a fact of life.
No, it's not a competition. It's A video game that's supposed to be fun. The pov that only the 1% should be fairly rewarded is elitist and snobbish.
Please go tell that to streamers who make a living at playing this game. You’re only further proving my point. Let me guess, you think capitalism is elitist and snobbish too? Well why don’t you tell me how every communist society has faired in the history of human kind. Cuba, China, N. Korea, USSR, Venezuela, all the eastern block European countries during the Cold War. All are cautionary tales about how much of an abject failure that economic system actually is. But you’re young maybe you know more than me.
Your general idea is correct. Communism fails. But it’s not an economic system. It’s an authoritarian form of government with governmental ownership of all goods and services.
Socialism is an economic system. And every successful economy in the world uses a hybrid of capitalism and socialism of varying degrees.
Finally someone with half a brain who understands these concepts lol
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I don't get to play enough ranked and will not touch BR to obtain these cards naturally so I buy them off the market. I can work the market on and off through the day to make more than enough stubs to buy the cards I want and plenty I don't want (for collection purposes). Across the board I already accept that I will be paying inflated prices for reward cards and that's fine. People deserve to "profit" from their effort.
My biggest concern with the no-sell stuff is the potential gate-keeping of cards at a massively inflated price like we have seen previously.
I guess we will see.
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While it certainly seems like most folks don't like the non-sellable rewards, I have to believe that EA must have seen a serious jump in micro-purchases when it expanded non-sellable rewards in FIFA this year. SDS is just jumping on that bandwagon.
The odd thing for The Show is, EA also pushed players into more game modes that have a buy-in this year, but the rewards in those modes remained sellable.
SDS seems to have melded the two ideas in BR. It will be interesting to see if it works out for them quite the way it did for EA.
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I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
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@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
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@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Hikes83_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I’ve read through this and multiple other threads and I see good arguments from both sides. Probably nobody will care what I think but here’s my 2 cents.
If you go back 3 years ago, there were no programs for RS/BR. Only way to get these special cards were to make it to WS and go 12-0.
In my honest opinion, the way they just made set 2 is how it should’ve been implanted in the first place when they introduced programs.
Lets not kid ourselves, “programs” are a handout. If you’re gonna be handed out a special card for participating, it shouldn’t be worth as much as the one who earned his way to WS or 12-0 in BR. It’s a great way to encourage those who can’t make it or don’t have the time to get what was an unattainable before without having to spend 300-400K stubs.
They should just have stub vouchers for going 12-0/making world series. Gatekeeping the cards is dumb as hell. BR exploded in popularity when the program was added. If they implemented it from the start 3 years ago it would have been different. Taking things away from players is bad. I didn't play BR before the programs and I'm not doing so now. The number of players that feel the same as me I can almost guarantee is much higher than the 40 players total that wanted this.
None of what you have said is true. BR has always been a popular mode since it’s introduction a few years back. The only difference is the accessibility of the rewards which the good players said was only going to saturate the market which it did. Please tell me why you’re entitled to a sellable reward. Because the 12-0 guy gets it? So you’re telling me that your equal to that player? You see that’s the difference between equity and equality. You want to something for nothing while the other person earned his reward even though you are given the same opportunities as the 12-0 player. This is the scourge of socialism. Make everyone believe they are the same even when merit proves otherwise.
You are the least credible person on this forum and have been for years. I'm amazed they let you make a new account under the same exact name with lowercase letters and it didn't auto trigger a ban tbh. If you think casual online players played BR before the program you are delusional. The only ones that played BR before were capable 12-0 players and the "diamond make the game play bad crowd". It was a waste of time for everyone else
Very accurate post Dragon. Him and a couple others have no cred on this forum.
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@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
It’s the classic iOS game set up nowadays. Most of just like playing for something. If it’s just for fun why did they need to make these cards non sellable so the WS and 12-0 crowd get more stubs. Are they not having fun?
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Hikes83_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I’ve read through this and multiple other threads and I see good arguments from both sides. Probably nobody will care what I think but here’s my 2 cents.
If you go back 3 years ago, there were no programs for RS/BR. Only way to get these special cards were to make it to WS and go 12-0.
In my honest opinion, the way they just made set 2 is how it should’ve been implanted in the first place when they introduced programs.
Lets not kid ourselves, “programs” are a handout. If you’re gonna be handed out a special card for participating, it shouldn’t be worth as much as the one who earned his way to WS or 12-0 in BR. It’s a great way to encourage those who can’t make it or don’t have the time to get what was an unattainable before without having to spend 300-400K stubs.
They should just have stub vouchers for going 12-0/making world series. Gatekeeping the cards is dumb as hell. BR exploded in popularity when the program was added. If they implemented it from the start 3 years ago it would have been different. Taking things away from players is bad. I didn't play BR before the programs and I'm not doing so now. The number of players that feel the same as me I can almost guarantee is much higher than the 40 players total that wanted this.
None of what you have said is true. BR has always been a popular mode since it’s introduction a few years back. The only difference is the accessibility of the rewards which the good players said was only going to saturate the market which it did. Please tell me why you’re entitled to a sellable reward. Because the 12-0 guy gets it? So you’re telling me that your equal to that player? You see that’s the difference between equity and equality. You want to something for nothing while the other person earned his reward even though you are given the same opportunities as the 12-0 player. This is the scourge of socialism. Make everyone believe they are the same even when merit proves otherwise.
You are the least credible person on this forum and have been for years. I'm amazed they let you make a new account under the same exact name with lowercase letters and it didn't auto trigger a ban tbh. If you think casual online players played BR before the program you are delusional. The only ones that played BR before were capable 12-0 players and the "diamond make the game play bad crowd". It was a waste of time for everyone else
Very accurate post Dragon. Him and a couple others have no cred on this forum.
Once again you post and I see it but you have me blocked? Which means I’m not supposed to see your posts or be able to respond to you. Oh that’s right, you’re a liar. You dont have me blocked but just claim to have me blocked. The only reason I can imagine you would lie to the community about this is because you want to read my posts because it irritates you so good. Like the blister on your lip that you keep biting. It hurts yet you keep doing it. This is also narcissistic behavior borderline obsessive. Keep telling everyone that I’m blocked. Keep telling yourself that I’m wrong. I’m happy to take up residence in your head rent free. Ironically, however, you are more likely to be the one squatting in someone else’s home. Til we meet again big guy!!!
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@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@the_dragon1912 said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Hikes83_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I’ve read through this and multiple other threads and I see good arguments from both sides. Probably nobody will care what I think but here’s my 2 cents.
If you go back 3 years ago, there were no programs for RS/BR. Only way to get these special cards were to make it to WS and go 12-0.
In my honest opinion, the way they just made set 2 is how it should’ve been implanted in the first place when they introduced programs.
Lets not kid ourselves, “programs” are a handout. If you’re gonna be handed out a special card for participating, it shouldn’t be worth as much as the one who earned his way to WS or 12-0 in BR. It’s a great way to encourage those who can’t make it or don’t have the time to get what was an unattainable before without having to spend 300-400K stubs.
They should just have stub vouchers for going 12-0/making world series. Gatekeeping the cards is dumb as hell. BR exploded in popularity when the program was added. If they implemented it from the start 3 years ago it would have been different. Taking things away from players is bad. I didn't play BR before the programs and I'm not doing so now. The number of players that feel the same as me I can almost guarantee is much higher than the 40 players total that wanted this.
None of what you have said is true. BR has always been a popular mode since it’s introduction a few years back. The only difference is the accessibility of the rewards which the good players said was only going to saturate the market which it did. Please tell me why you’re entitled to a sellable reward. Because the 12-0 guy gets it? So you’re telling me that your equal to that player? You see that’s the difference between equity and equality. You want to something for nothing while the other person earned his reward even though you are given the same opportunities as the 12-0 player. This is the scourge of socialism. Make everyone believe they are the same even when merit proves otherwise.
You are the least credible person on this forum and have been for years. I'm amazed they let you make a new account under the same exact name with lowercase letters and it didn't auto trigger a ban tbh. If you think casual online players played BR before the program you are delusional. The only ones that played BR before were capable 12-0 players and the "diamond make the game play bad crowd". It was a waste of time for everyone else
Again, I ask where is your proof for this claim. Just because a few people complain about something doesn’t make it true. Please provide proof or pedal your conspiracies elsewhere. Its really getting old listening to people like you whining and complaining because the game has decided that they don’t want an over saturation of elite cards on the market.
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@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
It’s the classic iOS game set up nowadays. Most of just like playing for something. If it’s just for fun why did they need to make these cards non sellable so the WS and 12-0 crowd get more stubs. Are they not having fun?
I get what he’s saying. He’s saying he wants to buy the cards off the players who are good and sell them because he can’t go 12-0. He can always do what everyone else says in here and get better.
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
It’s the classic iOS game set up nowadays. Most of just like playing for something. If it’s just for fun why did they need to make these cards non sellable so the WS and 12-0 crowd get more stubs. Are they not having fun?
I get what he’s saying. He’s saying he wants to buy the cards off the players who are good and sell them because he can’t go 12-0. He can always do what everyone else says in here and get better.
Where did I say that? I said that I would probably sell the card to get stubs to finish the LS Collection. Why not? Why would I want a Set 2 card, that can only be used part of the year, when I could get stubs towards 2-3 Core cards that I can use year round?
But thanks for assuming.
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
It’s the classic iOS game set up nowadays. Most of just like playing for something. If it’s just for fun why did they need to make these cards non sellable so the WS and 12-0 crowd get more stubs. Are they not having fun?
I get what he’s saying. He’s saying he wants to buy the cards off the players who are good and sell them because he can’t go 12-0. He can always do what everyone else says in here and get better.
Where did I say that? I said that I would probably sell the card to get stubs to finish the LS Collection. Why not? Why would I want a Set 2 card, that can only be used part of the year, when I could get stubs towards 2-3 Core cards that I can use year round?
But thanks for assuming.
Not you. The guy up there somewhere who said he only plays to collect cards.
Ezio 17
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
It’s the classic iOS game set up nowadays. Most of just like playing for something. If it’s just for fun why did they need to make these cards non sellable so the WS and 12-0 crowd get more stubs. Are they not having fun?
I get what he’s saying. He’s saying he wants to buy the cards off the players who are good and sell them because he can’t go 12-0. He can always do what everyone else says in here and get better.
Where did I say that? I said that I would probably sell the card to get stubs to finish the LS Collection. Why not? Why would I want a Set 2 card, that can only be used part of the year, when I could get stubs towards 2-3 Core cards that I can use year round?
But thanks for assuming.
Not you. The guy up there somewhere who said he only plays to collect cards.
Ezio 17
My bad. Now I apologize for assuming.
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@killerpresence4_MLBTS said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
If you're going to start making these Ranked and BR rewards non-sellable; at least make them Core cards.
Since I'll never make 12-0 and it usually costs me 50-60K in entry fees to make it to 100pya; I have no interest in playing BR.
I'd rather save my stubs.
The exact reason you’re describing is the exact reason why those rewards are non sellable. The game wants to give people an incentive to go 12-0. The game wants you to become a good player and by making the program reward non sellable it rewards those who put in the effort to be great at the game with a sellable version of the same reward that you can’t sell. It also stops market inflation. So all I can say to you is work on going 12-0 rather than settling for program completion. And yes I do realize some people will never achieve that goal and all I can say to that is keep trying maybe one day you luck into it. By the way I have never gone 12-0 either. Not because I’m not capable of it but because I have too much of a temper and rage when I perceive that I’m being screwed by RNG so I just don’t play it anymore. I am 100% capable of doing it if I put my mind to it.
So getting BR card (last one still selling for like 130k) and a 90 overall card that most are over 100k isn't enough for flawless? Really? The mind set of society blows my mind. RS I can understand because the reward was down to 30k for a lot of grinding. BR should be sellable. Most people that do the program will need 10+ hours to do it including myself who is a WS player. I played for 2 hours last night and at a whole 9 points. That Kinsler card is [censored] terrible.
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I apologize for this thread getting out of hand. Can it be locked or deleted?
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@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@fubar2k7_PSN said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
@Ezio-I7_XBL said in SDS: Non-Sellable rewards:
I've excepted I won't get every card this year due to sds being greedy and listening to the 1% of players. Sad to see this game go this way. I stopped playing madden because of the money grab. Might have to do the same if things get worse
You only play the game to get the cards?
Do people play the game for fun?
I thought maybe you’d play because you liked baseball. Cards being the primary reason seems unusual.
It’s the classic iOS game set up nowadays. Most of just like playing for something. If it’s just for fun why did they need to make these cards non sellable so the WS and 12-0 crowd get more stubs. Are they not having fun?
I get what he’s saying. He’s saying he wants to buy the cards off the players who are good and sell them because he can’t go 12-0. He can always do what everyone else says in here and get better.
Ah there it is...there it is. The ol #GetGud. It was bound to be said. Hey playing online is so toxic but I have still done the programs to either get a card I want or to sell it and then.....get a card I want. Thank goodness for Custom Leagues. Most are set up to ban toxic players. I have a fun time winning there.
