BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers
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@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
There needs to be a demarcation between those who earn it through skill (I never will) and those who just grind innings/missions.
Let’s be very clear, we aren’t talking about a demarcation between say the top 20%, but about less than 1% of the player base. That’s it. Designing content for that small of a group is absurd.
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@GradektheBard said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@SuntLacrimae50_MLBTS said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
There needs to be a demarcation between those who earn it through skill (I never will) and those who just grind innings/missions.
Let’s be very clear, we aren’t talking about a demarcation between say the top 20%, but about less than 1% of the player base. That’s it. Designing content for that small of a group is absurd.
That's a fair point. However, any demarcation is going to be met with outrage similar to this. SDS has opened up the "grind 99" pandora's box, where grinding can get you the same thing as skill, and there's no walking that back.
They need to have really top-tier rewards for elite players, but they also need to revamp RS into something like mini-seasons, with different limitations and different rewards.
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@Dolenz_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I don't play BR but the no sell rewards kind of suck this year. That said I would not blame it on "streamers".
It is, at least to me, a ploy to keep players from accumulating too many stubs while, at the same time, they are releasing more expensive packs with rare cards.
I think they want everyone to run to the PS Store and top off their stubs there.
But the reward paths were sellable at launch(BR & WS)
Then streamers started to complain about it and now they aren’t sellable
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@aware_ward13_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@Dolenz_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I don't play BR but the no sell rewards kind of suck this year. That said I would not blame it on "streamers".
It is, at least to me, a ploy to keep players from accumulating too many stubs while, at the same time, they are releasing more expensive packs with rare cards.
I think they want everyone to run to the PS Store and top off their stubs there.
But the reward paths were sellable at launch(BR & WS)
Then streamers started to complain about it and now they aren’t sellable
Just because streamers complained doesn't mean that the point isn't valid. Don't kill the messenger (okay, maybe the one with the beard who just shouts all the time...JK!). I haven't done the pros/cons so don't really have an informed take on it. But just because xyz complained doesn't invalidate the complaint.
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Also I'll add, I was fine-ish with no sell event rewinds and RS rewards. The majority of players are spending 60k in entry fees to get a reward they can't even sell. I'm not even in the group of players that the streamer's didn't want getting these cards. I just think about players other than myself
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My issue with BR is it has been fine this way for three years. I do think RS might have been a touch easy for first season, but they made the time requirement significantly higher and made them no sell. I think they could have made either adjustment mid year and it wouldn’t have been too big of a deal. However, getting 100 points in BR has always seem to fit the reward well. Again this is the third year it has been this way and has never been an issue until now.
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@samguenther1987 said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I got to my first Incognito pack yesterday and was excited because i took rendon and saw he was going for over 100k but then I remembered that the first 4 packs in the program are non sellable.
I'm all for repeating packs in programs/events/ and BR however I believe that if you put in the time and effort in a program/BR/Event or whatever you should get the choice to either keep or sell, taking that choice away is going to just alienate the fan base.
Wait? The first four reward packs in the Season 2 program aren't sellable?
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@samguenther1987 said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I got to my first Incognito pack yesterday and was excited because i took rendon and saw he was going for over 100k but then I remembered that the first 4 packs in the program are non sellable.
I'm all for repeating packs in programs/events/ and BR however I believe that if you put in the time and effort in a program/BR/Event or whatever you should get the choice to either keep or sell, taking that choice away is going to just alienate the fan base.
Wait? The first four reward packs in the Season 2 program aren't sellable?
I believe it is just the 100 point pack. The Flawless reward.
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@samguenther1987 said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I got to my first Incognito pack yesterday and was excited because i took rendon and saw he was going for over 100k but then I remembered that the first 4 packs in the program are non sellable.
I'm all for repeating packs in programs/events/ and BR however I believe that if you put in the time and effort in a program/BR/Event or whatever you should get the choice to either keep or sell, taking that choice away is going to just alienate the fan base.
Wait? The first four reward packs in the Season 2 program aren't sellable?
Correct, the first 2 incognito and kaiju packs are unsellable. Of course, the only place this shows up is the program reward path. As I found out (since I never looked at the path) the packs in your inventory don’t have to no sell tag, nor do the selections until after you finalize your pick.
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So what exactly happened today? They made the rewards in BR & WS non sellable unless you actually make 12-0 or WS? Am I correct?
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They’ve definitely found a way to deter casual online players from playing online. Maybe that was the goal. I came into the season truly planning on playing online more but that is no longer the case.
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If people stopped watching streamers their power would diminish. I guess it's just a generational thing but I cannot imagine my fifteen year old self watching a video of a guy playing a Sonic the Hedgehog 3. Even if he is better than I am.
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@IrishFist412_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
So what exactly happened today? They made the rewards in BR & WS non sellable unless you actually make 12-0 or WS? Am I correct?
They did that with WS rewards on Friday, today the new season of BR launched and it is that way for Flawless.
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@X-FREEZE-OFF-X_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@samguenther1987 said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
I got to my first Incognito pack yesterday and was excited because i took rendon and saw he was going for over 100k but then I remembered that the first 4 packs in the program are non sellable.
I'm all for repeating packs in programs/events/ and BR however I believe that if you put in the time and effort in a program/BR/Event or whatever you should get the choice to either keep or sell, taking that choice away is going to just alienate the fan base.
Wait? The first four reward packs in the Season 2 program aren't sellable?
Thats correct the first 2 Incognito and first 2 Kaiju packs are non sellable
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@Ericulous1_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
They’ve definitely found a way to deter casual online players from playing online. Maybe that was the goal. I came into the season truly planning on playing online more but that is no longer the case.
I agree. This kills it for me. They also increase the innings so it takes longer in ranked which I don’t understand if you can’t sell them. It’s extremely time consuming.
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It’s funny that not too far ago, the only way to get these cards were to go flawless or pay for them. Now you can still get one for free.
Some of us got too spoiled the past couple years
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I don’t like the move, but let’s not act like it’s some conspiracy against “casuals.”
Their motivation is to make money by selling stubs. All these changes have been geared toward that. Every company’s goal to make money. It’s not evil. It’s not personal. It’s capitalism.
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@IrishFist412_XBL said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
So what exactly happened today? They made the rewards in BR & WS non sellable unless you actually make 12-0 or WS? Am I correct?
Ranked was like that when it dropped. However they are breaking up the season into two parts. First part of the season has non sellable packs, in the WS Program, and then when the start the second part of this season; those packs will be sellable.
When the new BR program dropped today; they made the pack you get at 100pts ( which is the Flawless pack for those that can't go 12-0) non sellable.
So, the only way you can sell a flawless card is if you earn it while going 12-0.
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@beanball0571_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
@GradektheBard said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
Designing a reward structure that only benefits less than 1% of your customers is a terrible strategy.
But hey, at least they won’t have to hear oh chev cry anymore.
Don’t mention names, SDS will ban you with a quickness
truth hurts....this is sad from SDS....unreal
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@Ericulous1_PSN said in BR program unsellable too. Thanks streamers:
They’ve definitely found a way to deter casual online players from playing online. Maybe that was the goal. I came into the season truly planning on playing online more but that is no longer the case.
I second this. I now have no reason to play BR. So it's only going to be offline for me right now until some of these rewards are Core players.
I would like to add this though. If this is because of streamers griping that the rewards lose less value:
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It's not like they're using their own money to buy stuff. They probably get paid to produce streams.
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If SDS is worried about people earning a lot of stubs; then they shouldn't allow people to sit on a 11-0 run until the new BR season starts. If you're in an 11-0 run and you don't play your next game until the new season drops; tough luck. You start out 1-0.
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