BR Should Be On HOF
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@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
I’m staying out of this one other than this, if you are complaining that you can’t strike people out on All Star difficulty right now, that is on you.
There may well be reasons that BR would be better on AS, but making it easier for you to get strikeouts is not a legitimate one.
So people should be able to foul off pitches over a foot outside the zone? I would bet you strikeouts in games on All Star do not simulate realistic statistics.
I didn’t say that. I’m simply saying you should outpitch (or outhit) the “lesser players”.
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
I’m staying out of this one other than this, if you are complaining that you can’t strike people out on All Star difficulty right now, that is on you.
There may well be reasons that BR would be better on AS, but making it easier for you to get strikeouts is not a legitimate one.
So people should be able to foul off pitches over a foot outside the zone? I would bet you strikeouts in games on All Star do not simulate realistic statistics.
I didn’t say that. I’m simply saying you should outpitch (or outhit) the “lesser players”.
Right. But All Star lets you foul off pitches you shouldn't be able to. You should get penalized for swinging at them because they're way out of the zone, but it lets you foul them off.
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@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
I’m staying out of this one other than this, if you are complaining that you can’t strike people out on All Star difficulty right now, that is on you.
There may well be reasons that BR would be better on AS, but making it easier for you to get strikeouts is not a legitimate one.
So people should be able to foul off pitches over a foot outside the zone? I would bet you strikeouts in games on All Star do not simulate realistic statistics.
I didn’t say that. I’m simply saying you should outpitch (or outhit) the “lesser players”.
Right. But All Star lets you foul off pitches you shouldn't be able to. You should get penalized for swinging at them because they're way out of the zone, but it lets you foul them off.
The way you penalize those players is to get them out, man.
Come on. I’ve played all my games on AS difficulty. I’m not going to complain that they should make hitting easier for me because I’m not good at it. I’m just going to work on my hitting.
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
I’m staying out of this one other than this, if you are complaining that you can’t strike people out on All Star difficulty right now, that is on you.
There may well be reasons that BR would be better on AS, but making it easier for you to get strikeouts is not a legitimate one.
So people should be able to foul off pitches over a foot outside the zone? I would bet you strikeouts in games on All Star do not simulate realistic statistics.
I didn’t say that. I’m simply saying you should outpitch (or outhit) the “lesser players”.
Right. But All Star lets you foul off pitches you shouldn't be able to. You should get penalized for swinging at them because they're way out of the zone, but it lets you foul them off.
The way you penalize those players is to get them out, man.
Come on. I’ve played all my games on AS difficulty. I’m not going to complain that they should make hitting easier for me because I’m not good at it. I’m just going to work on my hitting.
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
I’m staying out of this one other than this, if you are complaining that you can’t strike people out on All Star difficulty right now, that is on you.
There may well be reasons that BR would be better on AS, but making it easier for you to get strikeouts is not a legitimate one.
So people should be able to foul off pitches over a foot outside the zone? I would bet you strikeouts in games on All Star do not simulate realistic statistics.
I didn’t say that. I’m simply saying you should outpitch (or outhit) the “lesser players”.
Right. But All Star lets you foul off pitches you shouldn't be able to. You should get penalized for swinging at them because they're way out of the zone, but it lets you foul them off.
The way you penalize those players is to get them out, man.
Come on. I’ve played all my games on AS difficulty. I’m not going to complain that they should make hitting easier for me because I’m not good at it. I’m just going to work on my hitting.
Stop this, against any half decent player in all star you’re maybe getting 2-3 strikeouts in a game, in a 3 inning game with less stamina? Strikeouts are going to be non existent, I know a guy that’s gone 12-0 5 times already that’s hitting .480 in BR, rebel is hitting .565 in BR, even im hitting over .400 in BR and I’m nowhere close to that level, strikeouts are almost non existent on all star because the pci’s are too big, the pitch speeds too slow, this isn’t a “get better at pitching” type situation
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What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
Of course it’s not impossible, bad players strike out on all star, any decent player is going to rarely strike out on all star
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The problem here is that BR is a mode open to players of all ratings.
Maybe what would need to happen would be to change the difficulty as people’s runs progress.
Yes, good hitters don’t strike out very much on All Star, but we are all in the same boat.
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
It's not impossible but it doesn't happen at the rate that it should. Also, players get rewarded for having bad plate discipline because they get prolonged at bats for swinging at bad pitches.
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I do feel like AS in BR and Event's is different than AS in ranked seasons, but that could just be me.
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@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
It's not impossible but it doesn't happen at the rate that it should. Also, players get rewarded for having bad plate discipline because they get prolonged at bats for swinging at bad pitches.
Yes, that is true.
My problem with your point is, rather than improving AS for everyone, all you seem to care about is making BR HOF so you don’t have to deal with it.
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I'm not sure what the answer is. The good players dont want to play on all star while the bad players dont want to play on HoF. How do they pacify both sides? Honest question because I dont know.
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I think universal pitch speeds would be a good place to start, but yeah, there’s a pretty diverse player base, and we’re just talking about players that play online, which is already a sub-set.
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
It's not impossible but it doesn't happen at the rate that it should. Also, players get rewarded for having bad plate discipline because they get prolonged at bats for swinging at bad pitches.
Yes, that is true.
My problem with your point is, rather than improving AS for everyone, all you seem to care about is making BR HOF so you don’t have to deal with it.
It's not that I don't care about it, it's that it doesn't have anything to do with the point of this thread I started. The point is, BR has the biggest rewards. It's very competitive. It should be on a competitive difficulty. Also and more importantly, I think HOF does a better job of playing like real baseball.
Honestly, the bigger the pci, the more RNG they have to include to make the game have somewhat realistic results. If the pci was the size of the strikezone, it would all be RNG other than timing because otherwise you'd always drive the ball.
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Only thing I can think of is opening the timing windows up more on all star if you want to keep pitch speeds the same. Otherwise a lot of players will get frustrated and quit.
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@maskedgrappler said in BR Should Be On HOF:
Only thing I can think of is opening the timing windows up more on all star if you want to keep pitch speeds the same. Otherwise a lot of players will get frustrated and quit.
It's not so much the speeds. I think the pci size is the bigger deal, although I think the pitch speeds on HOF are good, I don't think they're much different from All Star on the current patch. I think the pci size is the bigger difference.
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@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
It's not impossible but it doesn't happen at the rate that it should. Also, players get rewarded for having bad plate discipline because they get prolonged at bats for swinging at bad pitches.
Yes, that is true.
My problem with your point is, rather than improving AS for everyone, all you seem to care about is making BR HOF so you don’t have to deal with it.
It's not that I don't care about it, it's that it doesn't have anything to do with the point of this thread I started. The point is, BR has the biggest rewards. It's very competitive. It should be on a competitive difficulty. Also and more importantly, I think HOF does a better job of playing like real baseball.
Honestly, the bigger the pci, the more RNG they have to include to make the game have somewhat realistic results. If the pci was the size of the strikezone, it would all be RNG other than timing because otherwise you'd always drive the ball.
I actually agree with you, but IMO, it would make more sense to just correct the problem everywhere. Those of us competing in ranked below 700 are just as frustrated as you are.
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@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@coastereight said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@halfbutt said in BR Should Be On HOF:
What are you talking about? The point is they shouldn't be able to make contact with the ball that far out of the zone. They should be out. There are many times I do get them out. I thought the goal was for the game to simulate baseball?
I’m not disagreeing with you. A hitter with good PCI skills can foul off lots of pitches and prolong at-bats. I’m sure you do the same when you’re hitting. It IS annoying.
My point is, it is not impossible to strike people out on AS.
It's not impossible but it doesn't happen at the rate that it should. Also, players get rewarded for having bad plate discipline because they get prolonged at bats for swinging at bad pitches.
Yes, that is true.
My problem with your point is, rather than improving AS for everyone, all you seem to care about is making BR HOF so you don’t have to deal with it.
It's not that I don't care about it, it's that it doesn't have anything to do with the point of this thread I started. The point is, BR has the biggest rewards. It's very competitive. It should be on a competitive difficulty. Also and more importantly, I think HOF does a better job of playing like real baseball.
Honestly, the bigger the pci, the more RNG they have to include to make the game have somewhat realistic results. If the pci was the size of the strikezone, it would all be RNG other than timing because otherwise you'd always drive the ball.
I actually agree with you, but IMO, it would make more sense to just correct the problem everywhere. Those of us competing in ranked below 700 are just as frustrated as you are.
Fair enough. Not sure what the solution for that is. Maybe shrink the All Star pci but not quite as much at the HOF pci?
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@Vipersneak said in BR Should Be On HOF:
@ImDFC said in BR Should Be On HOF:
I'm not saying you're wrong. I just can't play HoF online. the PCI is too small for me to use with an analog stick. Kudos to you fellas who can, but I making precise movements is just not something these thumbs were built for. Now if I had some sort of twin stick controller...
What they mean is that they would be able to win easier in BR if it were on HoF. It makes it harder for people with less reaction time. That is all they care about. Same discussion every year and these guys have to same old argument. I personally do not care either way, but them saying the game plays better on HoF just means it plays better for them on HoF. They are not looking out for the community like they want you to believe. They just cant say, "Make BR HoF so that I can win more often." Does not sound as nice. They HATE the fact that they can lose on All Star and that it gives other people with slower reflexes a chance.
"BR should be on All-Star so people who aren't as good at the game have a better chance of winning".
I fixed what you said.
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I don’t know. I’ve struggled hard with how small the PCI is on AS now, since whichever patch that was. I’ve pretty much turned it off other than the center dots.
How much smaller does it need to get? Realistically, All-star PCI is already what HOF was last year and nobody was complaining about it being too big in HOF then.
