Tim Anderson fielding
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@nanthrax_1_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
I think the same thing about Bogaerts..
Without looking up his defensive metrics and all that, every time I've watched him play, which is every game against the Jays, he's making crazy plays, extremely reliable, great arm and range.... Every time I've seen him..
Maybe he's only good when he plays the Jays, because his ratings are trash in this gameI actually watch Bogaerts quite a bit because he plays our for national team (Netherlands) and he does actually botch quite a few plays at SS. They want to make him a 3B for our national squad which he refuses because the Red Sox see him as a SS so why wouldn't our national squad? In his logic that is, because we also have Simmons who is undeniably a gazillion times better in the field.
Andrelton?? Well... Ya... Dude is Ozzie Smith...
Yup, Simba is a wizard with the glove.
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Another interesting comparison would be Trea Turner. Very comparable hitting to Tim but also a 60 something rated fielder. Yet he is an 86 overall diamond. So speed and stealing makes up +4 in overall difference? Either that or they really weigh the vision stat heavily, which Trea has +14.
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
Another interesting comparison would be Trea Turner. Very comparable hitting to Tim but also a 60 something rated fielder. Yet he is an 86 overall diamond. So speed and stealing makes up +4 in overall difference? Either that or they really weigh the vision stat heavily, which Trea has +14.
Gotta be the speed at the position. They probably weigh it heavily at SS
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If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
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@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
I don’t think they take heart and soul into consideration. Nor do they take into consideration how much we like a player or how many of the player we own.
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@untchable704_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
I don’t think they take heart and soul into consideration. Nor do they take into consideration how much we like a player or how many of the player we own.
Yes they actually do take a player's importance to the ballclub in consideration, whether they acknowledge it or not. And all of my statements has nothing to do with my sentiment or how many I own, look up the stats and then ask yourself how on earth they downgraded him by 1 on the last update.
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I agree. LS TA7 should be a 95 overall.
P.S. I may own 100 TA7 LS cards and can not be 100% impartial.
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@arvcpa_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
I agree. LS TA7 should be a 95 overall.
P.S. I may own 100 TA7 LS cards and can not be 100% impartial.
Lmao. In that case I certainly hope he does go diamond for your sake. But all jokes aside, he is very underappreciated in my opinion and especially the defense should be adjusted to 70-75.
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@arvcpa_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
I agree. LS TA7 should be a 95 overall.
P.S. I may own 100 TA7 LS cards and can not be 100% impartial.
Lmao. In that case I certainly hope he does go diamond for your sake. But all jokes aside, he is very underappreciated in my opinion and especially the defense should be adjusted to 70-75.
I did own 100 of his cards last year just before the final roster update, and he did sneak up to a diamond. So... wishful thinking.
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@arvcpa_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@arvcpa_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
I agree. LS TA7 should be a 95 overall.
P.S. I may own 100 TA7 LS cards and can not be 100% impartial.
Lmao. In that case I certainly hope he does go diamond for your sake. But all jokes aside, he is very underappreciated in my opinion and especially the defense should be adjusted to 70-75.
I did own 100 of his cards last year just before the final roster update, and he did sneak up to a diamond. So... wishful thinking.
I hope it works out for you again, like I said I think he deserves it. So I would be happy if I'd be sitting on 100 like you because I believe he has a good shot.
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
He's a good player but heart and soul have no rating in mlb the show. Some would call him an arrogant a$$hole
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@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
He's a good player but heart and soul have no rating in mlb the show. Some would call him an arrogant a$$hole
I know it doesn't have a literal rating. But Fernando Tatis Jr. having upper 80s fielding is an example of something similar. I'm a fan of Tatis but he's been having some serious issues defensively and yet he has an elite rating because he's the cover athlete.
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
He's a good player but heart and soul have no rating in mlb the show. Some would call him an arrogant a$$hole
I know it doesn't have a literal rating. But Fernando Tatis Jr. having upper 80s fielding is an example of something similar. I'm a fan of Tatis but he's been having some serious issues defensively and yet he has an elite rating because he's the cover athlete.
I haven't been watching, but isn't Tatis' problem errant throws? Not so much fielding?
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
He's a good player but heart and soul have no rating in mlb the show. Some would call him an arrogant a$$hole
I know it doesn't have a literal rating. But Fernando Tatis Jr. having upper 80s fielding is an example of something similar. I'm a fan of Tatis but he's been having some serious issues defensively and yet he has an elite rating because he's the cover athlete.
He also gets the San Diego Homer rating
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@t-rox_09_mlbts said in Tim Anderson fielding:
If they gave him 75 fielding he would probably be a diamond and I believe they only want a certain amount of live series diamonds at any given time.
I think he should be a diamond honestly. He ended as a diamond last year and he's been having a pretty good start as well. Not to mention the fact he's the heart and soul of the team.
He's a good player but heart and soul have no rating in mlb the show. Some would call him an arrogant a$$hole
I know it doesn't have a literal rating. But Fernando Tatis Jr. having upper 80s fielding is an example of something similar. I'm a fan of Tatis but he's been having some serious issues defensively and yet he has an elite rating because he's the cover athlete.
I haven't been watching, but isn't Tatis' problem errant throws? Not so much fielding?
Its both actually, the game announcers blamed it on him still being a bit rusty after injury. But he has 11 errors, 4 fielding errors and 7 throwing errors. So yeah if I compare that with Tim Anderson's numbers I can only conclude that they do actually account for stuff other than statistics, in this case the fact that Tatis is the cover ahtlete. Or he should have 60 fielding or lower as well.
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@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
So I'm watching the Sox play the Yankees and I see Tim Anderson making a nice sliding play to take away a hit from Kyle Higashioka. Which reminded me that Tim has a 63 fielding and a 63 reaction rating in this game.
According to fangraphs, Tim is better in every defensive category than Fransisco Lindor this year and has only made 1 error so far. Lindor has an 85 fielding rating and 90 reaction.
I'm not saying Tim Anderson is a better fielder than a multiple gold glove winner in Lindor. I know TA is more valuable for his bat. But 63 fielding and 63 reaction? That's horrible. Should be around a 75 at least.
Not a good comparison. If we were just looking at Lindor this year he would be a common haha
TA has been an absolute butcher in past years, worst defensive shortstop according to metrics in the last full season in 2019 and had like 26 errors.
Much improved this year so far in a small sample.
Bogaerts is a guy that gets shafted on defense IMO.
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@notoriousheb_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
@raesone_psn said in Tim Anderson fielding:
So I'm watching the Sox play the Yankees and I see Tim Anderson making a nice sliding play to take away a hit from Kyle Higashioka. Which reminded me that Tim has a 63 fielding and a 63 reaction rating in this game.
According to fangraphs, Tim is better in every defensive category than Fransisco Lindor this year and has only made 1 error so far. Lindor has an 85 fielding rating and 90 reaction.
I'm not saying Tim Anderson is a better fielder than a multiple gold glove winner in Lindor. I know TA is more valuable for his bat. But 63 fielding and 63 reaction? That's horrible. Should be around a 75 at least.
Not a good comparison. If we were just looking at Lindor this year he would be a common haha
TA has been an absolute butcher in past years, worst defensive shortstop according to metrics in the last full season in 2019 and had like 26 errors.
Much improved this year so far in a small sample.
Bogaerts is a guy that gets shafted on defense IMO.
True, 2019 was a bad season defensively for TA. 2019 was also a horrible defensive year for Tatis, and he already has 11 errors this year compared to Tim's 1 error where they both had good years in 2020. Yet Tatis has elite fielding in this game. So how does that work?
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I don't claim to understand how it really works, but from the outside, I really don't get how a 3-year rolling average could be affected by any evaluated attribute change over two weeks of data dropping from the front end and two weeks of new data being added at the recent end? There's still nearly 3 years of data (plus and minus two weeks) that hasn't changed. Tennis rankings change more slowly and they drop data every week and only roll for 1 year. I guess I'm a bit shocked that they claim it's a 3 year roll but then attributes can change quite a bit.
https://mlb21.theshow.com/roster_updates/2
So Xander dropped -7 in DISC because of +/- two weeks over 3 years of data?
Tim Anderson -8 VIS for the same update?Maybe I'm misunderstanding how it works, but it seems if they use a 3 year rolling average and update every two weeks during the season, that would mean only two weeks of data is being dropped and only two weeks of data is being added to a larger chunk of data spanning 3 years. If that's the case, these attribute changes are massive.
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Looks like somebody wanted to fire up ol’ SchnauzerFace first thing in the morning…
