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@Jeviduty said in White Sox fans...:
Honestly doubt LaRussa is all there, he's a HOF manager so he can get by on just name alone at this point. Still, he pretty much fumbled the WS in 2011 and got bailed out by Freese.
Why do you say he almost fumbled it?
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@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@kingss35 said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
Yea I’m having a hard time seeing how he is going to relate to our young core.
Read a quote from him saying he doesn’t respect people kneeling for the flag back when the whole Kaepernick thing happened. Doesn’t look like he’ll last long with the new school way of showing emotions and bat flips and such.
Exactly my thinking. Could be more hurtful than helpful to the team. You see what happened when the Padres coach tried to scold Tatis. He thought twice
My thoughts as well.
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@Nanos_McGregor said in White Sox fans...:
@Jeviduty said in White Sox fans...:
Honestly doubt LaRussa is all there, he's a HOF manager so he can get by on just name alone at this point. Still, he pretty much fumbled the WS in 2011 and got bailed out by Freese.
Why do you say he almost fumbled it?
Many reasons. Famously, calling the wrong guy out from the bullpen.
As referenced here:
https://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/10/25/game-5
For your enjoyment, this read written right after:
He also proved completely ineffective in a FO role with AZ. You can sweep that under the rug tho since he has managerial experience strictly from on the field, but trust me, his uselessness wasn't loss on Diamondback fans.
Either way, HOFamer but he has no business around this talent whose of severely different philosophies playing a game that has vastly evolved in the last 9 years. I'd gladly quote myself and declare myself an idiot 12 months from now if need be. But I almost completely guarantee this is a bad signing.
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@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@kingss35 said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
Yea I’m having a hard time seeing how he is going to relate to our young core.
Read a quote from him saying he doesn’t respect people kneeling for the flag back when the whole Kaepernick thing happened. Doesn’t look like he’ll last long with the new school way of showing emotions and bat flips and such.
Exactly my thinking. Could be more hurtful than helpful to the team. You see what happened when the Padres coach tried to scold Tatis. He thought twice
Big money and prima donnas are changing this game forever. #bringbackoldschoolbaseball
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@Jeviduty said in White Sox fans...:
@Nanos_McGregor said in White Sox fans...:
@Jeviduty said in White Sox fans...:
Honestly doubt LaRussa is all there, he's a HOF manager so he can get by on just name alone at this point. Still, he pretty much fumbled the WS in 2011 and got bailed out by Freese.
Why do you say he almost fumbled it?
Many reasons. Famously, calling the wrong guy out from the bullpen.
As referenced here:
https://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/10/25/game-5
For your enjoyment, this read written right after:
He also proved completely ineffective in a FO role with AZ. You can sweep that under the rug tho since he has managerial experience strictly from on the field, but trust me, his uselessness wasn't loss on Diamondback fans.
Either way, HOFamer but he has no business around this talent whose of severely different philosophies playing a game that has vastly evolved in the last 9 years. I'd gladly quote myself and declare myself an idiot 12 months from now if need be. But I almost completely guarantee this is a bad signing.
I thought that pitching debacle was more of the miscommunication lilliquist had over the bullpen phone.
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Have to defend my Padres and Jayce Tingler a little bit here. He gets a little too much criticism for scolding Tatis Jr. in regards to swinging 3-0 and hitting that grand slam. He did scold him a little, but the main reason was because he disregarded the take sign he was given on a 3-0 count and swung anyway. If Tatis Jr. wasn't given the take sign I'm not sure there would have been any scolding, but if a player ignores a sign I would say that he deserves to catch a little criticism from the manager.
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@lazy_toast
Are you glad you guys got rid of Renteria? Two teams now have gotten rid of him before playoff runs.
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@TEXAS10PT said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@kingss35 said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
Yea I’m having a hard time seeing how he is going to relate to our young core.
Read a quote from him saying he doesn’t respect people kneeling for the flag back when the whole Kaepernick thing happened. Doesn’t look like he’ll last long with the new school way of showing emotions and bat flips and such.
Exactly my thinking. Could be more hurtful than helpful to the team. You see what happened when the Padres coach tried to scold Tatis. He thought twice
Big money and prima donnas are changing this game forever. #bringbackoldschoolbaseball
Yea I have a problem with “old school” sports. If you give me a meatball with the bases loaded or [censored] no one on base you bet your [censored] I’m smacking that on you. My job is to beat you and demoralize you so next time we play you will remember it. Nothing needed to or shouldn’t have been said to him about it. Man is making peanuts right now so not a big contract. I can keep going but it’s not worth my time. Tell that to the football players that were made to go back out on the field with concussions cause that was “old school”
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@jz2016cubs said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast
Are you glad you guys got rid of Renteria? Two teams now have gotten rid of him before playoff runs. At least two, not sure about others. It just doesn't seem like he is a good championship coach. Renteria seemed to be coming in to his own. You could tell at times he was lost trying to make a decision. It’s not the age that bothers me I don’t need some 30 year old coach just someone who has the pulse of what’s going on now a days
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My lifelong best friend is a huge Sox fan. I just spent 30 min discussing this with him. He’s not excited. It seems like a very odd and overly sentimental move.
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@DeadPhish1976 said in White Sox fans...:
Have to defend my Padres and Jayce Tingler a little bit here. He gets a little too much criticism for scolding Tatis Jr. in regards to swinging 3-0 and hitting that grand slam. He did scold him a little, but the main reason was because he disregarded the take sign he was given on a 3-0 count and swung anyway. If Tatis Jr. wasn't given the take sign I'm not sure there would have been any scolding, but if a player ignores a sign I would say that he deserves to catch a little criticism from the manager.
I don't care what sign I drop, if I give him take and he hits a slam, im giving him a tounge-in-cheek caliber scolding. If he gets into an out, then he would get a serious scolding. To get on a guy who hit a slam is absurd.
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@Ikasnu said in White Sox fans...:
@DeadPhish1976 said in White Sox fans...:
Have to defend my Padres and Jayce Tingler a little bit here. He gets a little too much criticism for scolding Tatis Jr. in regards to swinging 3-0 and hitting that grand slam. He did scold him a little, but the main reason was because he disregarded the take sign he was given on a 3-0 count and swung anyway. If Tatis Jr. wasn't given the take sign I'm not sure there would have been any scolding, but if a player ignores a sign I would say that he deserves to catch a little criticism from the manager.
I don't care what sign I drop, if I give him take and he hits a slam, im giving him a tounge-in-cheek caliber scolding. If he gets into an out, then he would get a serious scolding. To get on a guy who hit a slam is absurd.
So you're saying that if a guy misses or fails to execute a sign he doesn't deserve to be scolded as long as the end result is positive? Don't get me wrong, I loved seeing him hit that grand slam, especially with how heated that series with the Rangers was. Maybe I'm old school but if a player fails to execute a sign in my opinion the manager has a right to be upset. I agree it lightens the severity a little when the ball sails over the right field fence as opposed to popping out to the second baseman but still, have to listen to your manager.
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@DeadPhish1976 said in White Sox fans...:
@Ikasnu said in White Sox fans...:
@DeadPhish1976 said in White Sox fans...:
Have to defend my Padres and Jayce Tingler a little bit here. He gets a little too much criticism for scolding Tatis Jr. in regards to swinging 3-0 and hitting that grand slam. He did scold him a little, but the main reason was because he disregarded the take sign he was given on a 3-0 count and swung anyway. If Tatis Jr. wasn't given the take sign I'm not sure there would have been any scolding, but if a player ignores a sign I would say that he deserves to catch a little criticism from the manager.
I don't care what sign I drop, if I give him take and he hits a slam, im giving him a tounge-in-cheek caliber scolding. If he gets into an out, then he would get a serious scolding. To get on a guy who hit a slam is absurd.
So you're saying that if a guy misses or fails to execute a sign he doesn't deserve to be scolded as long as the end result is positive? Don't get me wrong, I loved seeing him hit that grand slam, especially with how heated that series with the Rangers was. Maybe I'm old school but if a player fails to execute a sign in my opinion the manager has a right to be upset. I agree it lightens the severity a little when the ball sails over the right field fence as opposed to popping out to the second baseman but still, have to listen to your manager.
I absolutely feel that way yes. Its a risk you take as a player, you either take the game into your hand and succeed, or look like an idiot and get yelled at. Calculated risks.
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@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@TEXAS10PT said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@kingss35 said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
Yea I’m having a hard time seeing how he is going to relate to our young core.
Read a quote from him saying he doesn’t respect people kneeling for the flag back when the whole Kaepernick thing happened. Doesn’t look like he’ll last long with the new school way of showing emotions and bat flips and such.
Exactly my thinking. Could be more hurtful than helpful to the team. You see what happened when the Padres coach tried to scold Tatis. He thought twice
Big money and prima donnas are changing this game forever. #bringbackoldschoolbaseball
Yea I have a problem with “old school” sports. If you give me a meatball with the bases loaded or [censored] no one on base you bet your [censored] I’m smacking that on you. My job is to beat you and demoralize you so next time we play you will remember it. Nothing needed to or shouldn’t have been said to him about it. Man is making peanuts right now so not a big contract. I can keep going but it’s not worth my time. Tell that to the football players that were made to go back out on the field with concussions cause that was “old school”
Who said anything about football? I’m talking about pitching inside and brushing guys back. Breaking up two. Taking the catcher out who’s blocking the plate. You know real baseball not a video game. You ever play? How many times do you think Drysdale hit Aaron because he was crowding the plate? Plenty and Aaron never charged the mound, he just took his base. You understand prima donnas now?
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@TEXAS10PT said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@TEXAS10PT said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
@kingss35 said in White Sox fans...:
@lazy_toast said in White Sox fans...:
Yea I’m having a hard time seeing how he is going to relate to our young core.
Read a quote from him saying he doesn’t respect people kneeling for the flag back when the whole Kaepernick thing happened. Doesn’t look like he’ll last long with the new school way of showing emotions and bat flips and such.
Exactly my thinking. Could be more hurtful than helpful to the team. You see what happened when the Padres coach tried to scold Tatis. He thought twice
Big money and prima donnas are changing this game forever. #bringbackoldschoolbaseball
Yea I have a problem with “old school” sports. If you give me a meatball with the bases loaded or [censored] no one on base you bet your [censored] I’m smacking that on you. My job is to beat you and demoralize you so next time we play you will remember it. Nothing needed to or shouldn’t have been said to him about it. Man is making peanuts right now so not a big contract. I can keep going but it’s not worth my time. Tell that to the football players that were made to go back out on the field with concussions cause that was “old school”
Who said anything about football? I’m talking about pitching inside and brushing guys back. Breaking up two. Taking the catcher out who’s blocking the plate. You know real baseball not a video game. You ever play? How many times do you think Drysdale hit Aaron because he was crowding the plate? Plenty and Aaron never charged the mound, he just took his base. You understand prima donnas now?
Lol I bet You still drag your woman to bed by her hair with a club in your hand.
Serious talk yes I played 2 years of college DII ball at University of Scranton before I broke my collar bone. If a pitcher hit me because I was crowding or because I got a hit last at bat you bet your [censored] I’m charging the mound. And by prima donnas do you mean the azzholes that slide in to the base with no intention of getting on base just hurting the fielder. Or the azzholes that would demolish a catcher not even in the way of the plate. Or did you mean the whiny lil [censored] pitchers that bean players for no reason except their mad. Good day sir
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I find it crazy that they RE-hire a guy who first coached them starting over 40 years ago... up until 1986 I believe. There are only two guys on the current roster that were even born during his first run with the White Sox. Encarnacion and Dyson. That is crazy. I don’t see this as any type of long lasting marriage, Either due to his age or his inability to communicate with a much much younger group of guys. This will be interesting but I I just don’t understand the decision To hire him. This is a stopgap move at best. (Unless you feel he can manage into his 80s effectively.)
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@Ikasnu said in White Sox fans...:
@DeadPhish1976 said in White Sox fans...:
@Ikasnu said in White Sox fans...:
@DeadPhish1976 said in White Sox fans...:
Have to defend my Padres and Jayce Tingler a little bit here. He gets a little too much criticism for scolding Tatis Jr. in regards to swinging 3-0 and hitting that grand slam. He did scold him a little, but the main reason was because he disregarded the take sign he was given on a 3-0 count and swung anyway. If Tatis Jr. wasn't given the take sign I'm not sure there would have been any scolding, but if a player ignores a sign I would say that he deserves to catch a little criticism from the manager.
I don't care what sign I drop, if I give him take and he hits a slam, im giving him a tounge-in-cheek caliber scolding. If he gets into an out, then he would get a serious scolding. To get on a guy who hit a slam is absurd.
So you're saying that if a guy misses or fails to execute a sign he doesn't deserve to be scolded as long as the end result is positive? Don't get me wrong, I loved seeing him hit that grand slam, especially with how heated that series with the Rangers was. Maybe I'm old school but if a player fails to execute a sign in my opinion the manager has a right to be upset. I agree it lightens the severity a little when the ball sails over the right field fence as opposed to popping out to the second baseman but still, have to listen to your manager.
I absolutely feel that way yes. Its a risk you take as a player, you either take the game into your hand and succeed, or look like an idiot and get yelled at. Calculated risks.
Yeah I get it, and like I said maybe I'm just too old school but you listen to your manager or coach. You can question his decision after the fact, nothing wrong with that at all but in the moment you execute the sign. Otherwise at the end of the day, what's the point of having a manager? The scolding is definitely a little more light hearted if he hits the slam but you still have to scold.
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