New collection questions
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Why is the new collection not a tiered collection? You get 39 cards for doing the mantle collection which include 2 other 99's. Why is a collection of this type not the same? I mean a million or more stubs for an outfield option that could be considered the 4th best option(i think he is second). He won't be on many peoples team when either mays or griffey come out other than a bench bat. I really just don't get why more isn't included and why more isn't demanded of this particular collection.
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More than anything else this Trout is a status symbol. Like a fabrege egg - not worth the price, but people buy them to flaunt their wealth.
He'll come down in price pretty quickly. No where near as difficult as Honus was last year. Might need him for another set later on down the road too.
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@EvylShaun said in New collection questions:
More than anything else this Trout is a status symbol. Like a fabrege egg - not worth the price, but people buy them to flaunt their wealth.
He'll come down in price pretty quickly. No where near as difficult as Honus was last year. Might need him for another set later on down the road too.
I agree he is a status symbol and i could get him if i wanted but I still don't get why we don't demand a little more. The collection is obviously a way for sds to get customers to spend stubs and therefore sell more stubs. I get it on their end. I don't get why consumers buy into that tho. I just think for 1.5 mil, more than one 99 should be involved.
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Where/how do to get the Universal Profile Nameplates?
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@OlSkoolE63 said in New collection questions:
Where/how do to get the Universal Profile Nameplates?
Pretty sure one is the xp reward path and the other was a preorder bonus. I am probably not the one who should answer this tho.
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@OlSkoolE63 said in New collection questions:
Where/how do to get the Universal Profile Nameplates?
Collect 30 FOTF and 30 Future Stars
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@GixxerRyder750 said in New collection questions:
@OlSkoolE63 said in New collection questions:
Where/how do to get the Universal Profile Nameplates?
Collect 30 FOTF and 30 Future Stars
Awesome! Thank you!
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@bwheel1977 said in New collection questions:
@EvylShaun said in New collection questions:
More than anything else this Trout is a status symbol. Like a fabrege egg - not worth the price, but people buy them to flaunt their wealth.
He'll come down in price pretty quickly. No where near as difficult as Honus was last year. Might need him for another set later on down the road too.
I agree he is a status symbol and i could get him if i wanted but I still don't get why we don't demand a little more. The collection is obviously a way for sds to get customers to spend stubs and therefore sell more stubs. I get it on their end. I don't get why consumers buy into that tho. I just think for 1.5 mil, more than one 99 should be involved.
I didn't spend anywhere near one and a half million steps. If you play the game and not Cellular rewards and packs along the way you will have this complete pretty easily. And with the market inflation I sold a bunch of cards I didn't need and made almost a million stubs. I pretty much got trout for free plus a million stubs
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@bwheel1977 said in New collection questions:
Why is the new collection not a tiered collection? You get 39 cards for doing the mantle collection which include 2 other 99's. Why is a collection of this type not the same? I mean a million or more stubs for an outfield option that could be considered the 4th best option(i think he is second). He won't be on many peoples team when either mays or griffey come out other than a bench bat. I really just don't get why more isn't included and why more isn't demanded of this particular collection.
How much content do you expect a game developer to put out on a weekly basis? What player would have been much better than Trout? Trout is the modern day Griffey. They have no rights to a lot of the players that we talk about wanting to see. I think the community gets their hopes up too much. Wagner was not the best card in the game last year and getting Mantle this year was expensive early on too.
If you just play the game online every ranked season and event you will get many expensive cards. Most people chose to sell those cards to gain other cards. If you are willing to wait on Trout you will get the Topps Now, Prestige, FOTF, Gold Prospects, Cover, Monthly Awards, Players League, Rookie, Breakout, All Star, Veteran, and Postseason vouchers done relatively inexpensive. Over time the Signature and Awards set will fall into place too. My point is that almost everyone who wants him will have Trout by September 1st.
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@SevisonJN said in New collection questions:
@bwheel1977 said in New collection questions:
Why is the new collection not a tiered collection? You get 39 cards for doing the mantle collection which include 2 other 99's. Why is a collection of this type not the same? I mean a million or more stubs for an outfield option that could be considered the 4th best option(i think he is second). He won't be on many peoples team when either mays or griffey come out other than a bench bat. I really just don't get why more isn't included and why more isn't demanded of this particular collection.
How much content do you expect a game developer to put out on a weekly basis? What player would have been much better than Trout? Trout is the modern day Griffey. They have no rights to a lot of the players that we talk about wanting to see. I think the community gets their hopes up too much. Wagner was not the best card in the game last year and getting Mantle this year was expensive early on too.
If you just play the game online every ranked season and event you will get many expensive cards. Most people chose to sell those cards to gain other cards. If you are willing to wait on Trout you will get the Topps Now, Prestige, FOTF, Gold Prospects, Cover, Monthly Awards, Players League, Rookie, Breakout, All Star, Veteran, and Postseason vouchers done relatively inexpensive. Over time the Signature and Awards set will fall into place too. My point is that almost everyone who wants him will have Trout by September 1st.
Agreed, you really do not have to buy stubs or spend cash to get trout. You earn enough stub with this game to buy cards off the market, you can earn stubs by flipping cards as well. The people who spend money are those who need the card in the same day it gets released.
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@SevisonJN said in New collection questions:
Trout is the modern day Griffey.
Just like to point out that in Griffey's prime (93-98), he was putting up 7.4 WAR a year.
Throw out Trout's cup of coffee in 2011 and he's averaged 9 WAR a year in his career.
Trout isn't the modern day Griffey. He's the modern day ... Honus Wagner (8.8 WAR/yr from 1901-09)
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@SaveFarris said in New collection questions:
@SevisonJN said in New collection questions:
Trout is the modern day Griffey.
Just like to point out that in Griffey's prime (93-98), he was putting up 7.4 WAR a year.
Throw out Trout's cup of coffee in 2011 and he's averaged 9 WAR a year in his career.
Trout isn't the modern day Griffey. He's the modern day ... Honus Wagner (8.8 WAR/yr from 1901-09)
I also thought that was a bizarre statement. Griffey would be looking up to trout if they played at the same time. Lucky for Griffey they don't. Almost like the comparisons between Harper and trout years ago. Obviously now Harper can't carry trout's Jockstrap.
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Scherzer is the modern day Jack McDowell!
Votto is the modern day Andres Gallaraga!
Mookie is the modern day Ellis Burks! -
@SaveFarris said in New collection questions:
Scherzer is the modern day Jack McDowell!
Votto is the modern day Andres Gallaraga!
Mookie is the modern day Ellis Burks!Mookie is Burks?
I personally do not see the Mookie hype, but Burks was considered a future MVP by the Boston Hype machine in the early 90's.
Burks never lived up to the hype, but even I think Mookie is way better than Burks ever was.
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@SaveFarris said in New collection questions:
@SevisonJN said in New collection questions:
Trout is the modern day Griffey.
Just like to point out that in Griffey's prime (93-98), he was putting up 7.4 WAR a year.
Throw out Trout's cup of coffee in 2011 and he's averaged 9 WAR a year in his career.
Trout isn't the modern day Griffey. He's the modern day ... Honus Wagner (8.8 WAR/yr from 1901-09)
Trout isn't better than griffey. Trout understands analytics and has a different approach than griffey but he isn't better. Hitting they are even to trout being ahead but 3 of the other 4 tools go to griffey with arm being much further ahead than trout is in hitting. I do believe trout will be the better player after age 30 as his body won't be as beat up and they understand nutrution much better now than in 90's. Using modern day analytics for older players is the wrong way to look at it. Btw neither griffey nor trout are better than mantle or mays. I don't know if trout will ever be better than those two. Mantle is the most gifted baseball player ever.
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A. Hitting they are not even. Trout has a higher BA/OBP/SLG
Through 8 years, Trout leads...
HR: 286 to 238
Runs: 906 to 685
RBI: 756 to 725
SB: 200 (so far) to 184 (entire career)B. For a statistic that allegedly "the wrong way to look at older players", 8 of the top 10 in career WAR and 18 of the top 20 are pre 1975 players
C. Never said Trout was better than Mantle (though he will be) or Mays (won't be). Unless Trout gets run over by a bus, he's going to have a exponentially healthier career which hampered Mantle's ultimate achievements.
In order to catch Mays, Trout is going to have to keep playing at the same level for 12-15 years without the typical dropoff. Possible, but extremely unlikely.
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@SaveFarris said in New collection questions:
@SevisonJN said in New collection questions:
Trout is the modern day Griffey.
Just like to point out that in Griffey's prime (93-98), he was putting up 7.4 WAR a year.
Throw out Trout's cup of coffee in 2011 and he's averaged 9 WAR a year in his career.
Trout isn't the modern day Griffey. He's the modern day ... Honus Wagner (8.8 WAR/yr from 1901-09)
Older players were compared against peers. WAR when Wagner played was from a lesser talent base. For me WAR needs to be compared against era, not all time. Trout may be better than Griffey, but my point was that Trout was a good option for the collection.
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