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As an baseball fan first and foremost, I have a hard time caring. No one's spoke this much about our game in a while, so I love that part. Just don't know if I could be outraged about THIS but not 98-2008, feel me? I'd personally (I know most of you folks probably don't view it the same) feel like a hypocrite.

As an Astros fan, I say let people talk. Call us whatever, it won't hurt me. Folks need to leave player's families alone, however. Internet or not, that's thoughtless and cruel behavior at best and it's not close to OK.

The issue the majority of people are having is that they have eliminated all logic when it comes to this. Astros fans, non Astros fans, you name it. It's all emotionally based. That's why you see people say things like "people lost jobs!"

When you sit and think about this, smart baseball fans just looked at this as another episode of baseball.

It's not up to me to call myself a smart baseball fan (that's up to everyone else lol), but I can tell you guys -- taking the emotion out of this whole thing made me realize a LOT about whatever this "scandal" was supposed to accomplish.

@luv2bDad2013 said in This cheating scandal has really blown up.:

I love that you’re glad Aaron Judge said his part... when him and his team were caught doing the same thing back in 2017 also!!!

For some strange reason, I feel the Astros, Red Sox and Yankees weren’t the only ones doing this. It probably goes deeper, way deeper. Just the Astros have become the scapegoat of the whole thing.

Everyone has accused everyone for about 3-4 years now. Just HOU is at the forefront. Lance McCullers was calling things out in 2018 and said the word EVERYONE. But with sports "scandals", there's never ever going to be a league wide investigation when it comes to whole franchises. You can't kill interest in a sport with a rogue villain; you can when it's league wide.

@luv2bDad2013 said in This cheating scandal has really blown up.:

@ThaShark316 said in This cheating scandal has really blown up.:

@luv2bDad2013 said in This cheating scandal has really blown up.:

I love that you’re glad Aaron Judge said his part... when him and his team were caught doing the same thing back in 2017 also!!!

For some strange reason, I feel the Astros, Red Sox and Yankees weren’t the only ones doing this. It probably goes deeper, way deeper. Just the Astros have become the scapegoat of the whole thing.

Everyone has accused everyone for about 3-4 years now. Just HOU is at the forefront. Lance McCullers was calling things out in 2018 and said the word EVERYONE. But with sports "scandals", there's never ever going to be a league wide investigation when it comes to whole franchises. You can't kill interest in a sport with a rogue villain; you can when it's league wide.

The thing is, I’ve always thought sign stealing is bush league, but its been a part of the game for a very long time.

Even as the Astros have clearly been heavily involved, the stats have shown that it not only hasn’t helped their performance, it has actually hurt their performance. Doesn’t excuse anything, but this narrative that they “stole” the championship is just not supported by actual facts.

But you’re right, and that is my thought, Manfred pegs this all on one team rather than the whole league, he can save face for the MLB as a whole

Blaming one team and put 200% more interest in baseball. Now you got one villain vs the whole league.

I mean, guess who plays on opening day at 7 eastern on ESPN? It works out perfectly. MLB got more "butts in the seats" now. Most interest since the steroid era.