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I think it's time to ditch the series, they took away season mode for no reason, so you can't play a shortened season and they won't let you carry over your saves, and all the hard work historical roster makers put in is completely disregarded. This is what happens when they don't have real competition. Count me out.

Chuck Finley played more years for the angels 14 compared to ryan's 9 which is the only reason he has a higher war and just because he had higher war than ryan doesn't mean his attributes will be higher, it means he did contribute more to the angels on the field than nolan, but certainly not to the game of baseball. I was not suggesting rating players based on franchise war but simply including them on the roster of a team based on that. I think part of our difference is that I am thinking all time great franchise roster where as you are looking at all time great players first and then assigning them to a team, and neither is wrong, after all it is your roster and you are the one putting all the work in.

Fair enough buddy, good luck on the rest of the teams.

my sample attributes Baltimore infield
FLD SPD BRAG STL DISC VIS CL CR PL PR
MURRAY 75 43 15 52 71 64 74 79 75 82
PRATT 66 85 73 23 45 69 72 71 62 50
RIPKEN 89 35 6 32 60 75 68 65 71 69
ROBINSON 99 35 5 50 50 81 67 64 62 60
You can clearly see a huge discrepancy between my numbers and yours, never go with the legend player ratings from mlb the show, they are garbage. They have Cal Ripken at 92 and 98 contact and 83 and 99 power for a guy with a career .277 avg and 21hr/650pa. don't even get me started on del Pratt power ratings of 78 and 84. The attributes you have here are just not a true representation of who these players were, imho. just constructive criticism. once again, very difficult to get true numbers by eyeballing.

Speed is a tough attribute, that is why I use the SPD stat from fan graphs that takes in to account more than just sb, it is not perfect but makes your work much easier. I only use batting avg as determining factor for contact rating, and joe judge career batting avg of close to 300 is nice, but the era he played in makes that batting avg much less appealing with many guys hitting well over 300. To get my contact number I use avg+ stat from fangraph which uses a baseline of 100, which measures how good of a hitter a player was as far as avg is concerned compared to the era he played in, joe judge has an avg + of 104, which means he is above avg but certainly not in to the 80s and 90s rating and then I add his actual batting avg in to a formula and compare that to all time mlb avg of .262, which is the batting avg for all players combined from 1900 to current, with a 99 being given to only the top 8 players in the category or .342 in this case. If you give joe judge a 93 and 89, then ty cobb has to be a 115. I try to take out opinion as much as possible, numbers don't lie.
I would suggest you use fangraphs in determining what players to include in the rosters. You can easily look up career WAR ranking numbers any position and team so you don't omit important players, just because they were not big names. For example you have omitted matt Thornton, who is the whitesox alltime war leader as a releiver. If you want to have the best historic roster on the market, you can't have a team's career war leader at a position missing. I understand that you will be adding more players later, but the top guys should be on the first release.
I can get players attributes quickly, all I have to do is list the players I want and copy and paste from fangraphs in to my spreadsheet.
For a player to have attributes in the 80s and 90s he has to be significantly better than his peers. Another example of why you should use spreadsheet to get attributes is for example Kent hrbek, which you have rated as 59 vs R and 49 vs L For contact. Kent has a career avg of 282, well above avg, yet you have him rated as a well below avg hitter. It is just very tough to do attributes without spreadsheet and just eyeballing numbers, And beleive me, I understand how time consuming creating the players are but it becomes even more if you have to guess their attributes. it is cool to have a player that looks just like the player and has very close to the same batting stance, but the backbone of a great roster starts and ends with player attributes and how close they are to their actual performance.
Also imo, it is more important to use stats only for what that player did for that franchise, and not their entire career. If you are putting ken caminiti on the padres, he should be a killer, but he was only a killer for the padres. Padres should benefit from having him crush it with them and the rest of his career should not matter.

As you can see, I had some free time during the pandemic LOL. if you need help feel free to ask, my goal is to help you put the most authentic and realistic roster out there.

You are doing a great job man, keep it up. I am a stat geek and have made a spreadsheet that calculates mlb the show attributes based on fangraphs.com historical stats and stats+ and baseball references platoon numbers. If you want close to perfect attributes, including vs L and vs R numbers, based on numbers and very little opinion lmk. The stats are a mixture of how the player rated against his peers and how he compared to all time mlb averages from 1900 to current, with 60 being the avg rating, as stated by mlb the show creators. Also my numbers reflect only what that player did for that particular ball club not for their entire career. I can do an entire 40 man roster in less than an hour. If you want some samples lmk. Here is a comparison
For joe judge
Your ratings CR 93 CL89 PR 57. PL 50. SPD 36
My ratings. CR 73. CL 71 PR53. PL58 SPD 76
A 93 and 89 contact rating should be reserved for only the very top tier avg hitters, joe judge +104 avg + rating for his career with twins puts him above avg but no where near the numbers you gave him. Also he he was not slow and had over 200 career steals.
You seem like a guy who likes attention to detail so thought I would put this out there, fully understand if you like your own numbers.