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@soonermagic78_XBL said in The Negro league jerseys:
I did and the person treated me like I didn’t know what I was talking about and said I need to play more basically. I’m paraphrasing but I got pissed and gave up.
That sounds right in line with how SDS operates.
One can regard this as a game weakness, or accept that it does mimic something existing in real baseball, albeit very rarely.
In real baseball, you cannot bring in starters to win one game without severely degrading your ability to win future games. So, rarely is it ever done. Since online head-to-head games are one single game and the rosters reset to default after that game ends, there is no penalty or risk for unloading your entire bullpen, starters included.
This is done in deciding games of the postseason, where there is no tomorrow if the team doesn't win the game. But, even then, normally only one or perhaps two starters are brought into the game, and at least one is kept firmly on the bench to start the next game should his team win the current game.
Is there a proper answer to this online game issue? Yes, there could easily be a solution where each online game is treated like part of the regular season and each player chooses his starter and then the rest of the starting rotation is no longer selectable. Relief appearances in the game are restricted to relief pitchers. This seems like a reasonable solution and it would certainly mimic regular season baseball games.
@SDS_JoeK_PSN said in **Road to the Show in MLB The Show 25 – Outfield is a Snoozefest Now**:
Conversations on this are ongoing currently, but I'll keep everyone updated as necessary. Thanks!
I would submit that over six weeks is sufficient time for an update or better yet an actual fix to have been made. The observations are correct. I play my RTTS player in left field and it is true that this player receives no more than two plays during a nine inning game, most often no plays, and those plays are nearly always line drives hit to the wall or down the line. The means other than running down the ball and throwing it to the cutoff man, there isn't much play to be made.
Truth is the majority of fielding plays that an outfielder makes are fly balls that are very much catchable. For reasons that don't make sense, that basic play has been almost entirely removed from the RTTS game play. It has been an issue raised in bug reports submitted since MLB 23. I know, because myself and many others have written up these reports. I did not write up any for MLB 25, because after three years one is forced to conclude it just isn't a priority for SDS to fix the issue.
@soonermagic78_XBL said in The Negro league jerseys:
Correct
It's very sad, and paying customers should not be treated this way. That fact is beyond any rational challenge. To further the sadness, your experience is by no means unique. It follows a pattern where SDS has erected a system of customer feedback that fails because it isn't honestly followed by human action and correction. Words without actions is meaningless.
SDS wants to create the framework of customer support so that they can publicly say they care. But, their repeated inactions and yearly failure to fix the bugs brought to their attention proves that point beyond question.
So, SDS replied to your trouble ticket with a question, that you answered, and then heard nothing further?
@Talkingben9558_XBL said in LEAGUE CROSS PLAY IS DOWN - REQUESTING SDS UPDATE:
Can people stop making multiple threads for the same thing? If no one responds, just wait
Some of these server threads have been present for over a week without any substantive reply. How long do you propose people wait?
These folks are not beggars. SDS charged good money for this game and folks who paid for it have a right to receive what they paid for. I don't even play online game modes, but even for me, there is a point at which a company earns their ill will, and SDS has earned this one, and several others!
I play with it set for perfect. That said, I do not check swing in my offline game play, so this issue doesn't affect me personally. That said, my point is that SDS isn't implementing this part of the game in a realistic manner.
Folks, if "turning off all those visuals" is the answer to the question, then the bug is made rather obvious. And to the other respondent, your first post said a checked swing has "nothing to do with the animations," and then your follow up to me said the code, "looks at your timing and gives you an animation accordingly."
OK, so what is it, do you know?
Yes, the MLB rule puts the check swing call in the discretion of the umpires, but the general accepted standard for that call is the bat piercing the strike zone and if umpires fail to use some objective standard in the actual game, then the games would turn into a clown show.
The point here, folks, is that SDS is trying to create a virtual baseball game and so any game result that doesn't look realistic are in truth harming suspension of disbelief, which is the key point as everyone taught to code video games are taught about the vital importance of creating and maintaining the highest level of suspension of disbelief in order to gain the highest level of customer satisfaction.
@Talkingben9558_XBL said in Please awful devs, fix the check swings:
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Check swings have nothing to do with the animation you get. It might be based off discipline, but I'm not sure.
If what you say is correct, would that not be a huge bug? In the real game of baseball, it is based entirely on whether the bat pierces the 3D plane of the strike zone. So, to maintain suspension of disbelief, it is clear that the game code must present the check swing realistically with regard to that rule.
@yankblan_PSN said in Constant server disconnect:
@Ken_Stallings_MLBTS not arguing the merits of better communication but to be fair, sometimes they work on stuff without telling us and it just goes away without notice
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To be fair also, many of these issues being raised have been present for years without correction. There isn't any reasonable basis to give SDS credit for all that. No, sadly, we are dealing with a company that has totally lost its way -- another prime example for why creation of monopolies is a very bad idea. Human beings need competition to keep them sharp, alert, and hard working. Without competition, we get stale, aloof, and entitled.
When dozens of customers are flagging the same issue, no properly run company whistles past the graveyard like nothing is happening.
SDS has completely ignored the merits of the dozens of recent threads that report this issue, and in the one thread they had any response at all, it was to try telling a handful of trolls whom I long prior blocked accounts and didn't even read their comments, to "get back on track."
The mind numbing part of it is that the SDS staff employee could take the time to redress tolls high jacking a thread, but not say one single word about the actual server issue. In all the other threads, there has been no explanation of the situation.
SDS has long since passed the mark where the customers here have to conclude they just don't care about issues like this. They know there are issues, but they have been told to keep quiet about it, as if silence will make the complaints go away.
Folks, this is why I refuse to purchase another game made by SDS. In playing sports video games made by other companies the situation is just so much better. SDS has grown stale, aloof, and even arrogant because they have ridden a monopoly for years with the MLB theme games.
Your points are 100% valid and perhaps even the fanboys who think anything posted critical of SDS is somehow a personal insult to them will realize this is a fumbled opportunity.
It amazes me that SDS has so totally limited the scope of the Negro League players and teams in the games, restricting it to the tightly scripted Moments. At minimum SDS should have added the option to play Negro League games in the Exhibition Mode, if not actually allowed for a mini-version of League Play options versus the CPU using Negro League teams and schedules.
If SDS really wanted to introduce a wow factor into MLB 25 they would have by now introduced a mini version of RTTS, where in addition to the normal MLB option, customers could also create a special Negro League avatar player and used that player in a special Negro League format. How cool would that have been! To play games from the past using all the Negro League era stadiums.
Again, proper upgrades to Stadium Creator could have even allowed stadium designers to create historically realistic versions of the many Negro League ballparks and allowed those to be added to this special RTTS option.
But, all of this would have required SDS to write significant additional code to the game, something they don't seem willing to do any longer, and I guess being they are a monopoly, they don't feel they have to. Still, in this case, one would think respect for this historic league would have carved out a special exception. But, I guess not!
While SDS got the reality correct for the actual All Star game -- putting the players in their default home and road team uniforms, they got the special All-Star uniforms wrong in the Home Run Derby.
First, they put the NL team players in the AL uniforms and the AL team players in the NL uniforms. Additionally, they have the players wearing their normal regular season uniform numbers. The reality is that MLB put the number three on the backs of all the AL uniforms to honor Babe Ruth and the number 44 on the backs of all the NL uniforms to honor Hank Aaron.
Since MLB The Show already models putting the number 42 on the backs of all uniforms for the annual Jackie Robinson Day game, the code to implement this actual MLB plan is there.
MLB made a public announcement of all these plans several months back, even before the first release of MLB The Show 25, so SDS should have gotten these details correct.
@Zachtronics_XBL said in What's the first thing you'll do when MLB The Show hits PC?:
@PriorFir4383355_XBL I read all of this, and I agree 5000%, for what its worth! I thought the studio came off a bit snotty, up until the mid-2010s. I didn't care for the product, but with all of the visual upgrades, the immersion, the various difficulty and ways to play additions, adding legends, and all of the freedom of customization, it became an incredibly good product!
XBOX fans went NUTS for this game, when 2021 hit. I could already see the drag while paging between teams, pages in the Vault, the glaring omission of Sounds of the Show. It wasn't off to a great start.
I'm not sure where the hiccup is, where this bottleneck is, but a lot of the people on these forums certainly don't seem to care to encourage positive change for the series. They prefer to watch as we make considerate, thoughtful critiques and ideas for positive change, tearing us down.
It's a forum, so... it goes with the territory.
So when someone like yourself puts up something this thoughtful, it adds to my day, so thank you!
I know there are lots of great people who love this product and especially those who love making it. Let's not see it devolve into Madden, because the XBOX and Switch fans are already trashing it more, year-to-year. They get a well-respected Sony game on a different platform, and Sony is held to a standard. And, rightfully so!
Well, it would appear that while you agree with it "5000%" the people running this forum at SDS simply cannot stand me saying it for folks like you to read. They put my XBox based account on a terminal redirect path, which is a sneaky way to ban someone without actually banning him. This is my Show account I'm posting under now. And it's likely my last post.
Companies that run in such a shady and below board manner don't deserve my time. It's become clear SDS isn't interested in what the customers think about their game or want to see in it. Now, it's equally clear they don't even want to hear us say it in ways they fear might tip the balance of customer viewpoints.
The clock is firmly ticking, Joe. If something isn't done rather soon, the damage will become almost impossible for SDS to overcome. And if that comes to pass, it may well be better for SDS to just kill the logo editor, stadium creator, and custom uniform tools entirely vice see them remain languished in purgatory!
The current MLB rule is nonsensical, as it assigns a duty to the hitter running to first a requirement to stay inside a running lane and then somehow contort his footing instantly to side slip to his left anywhere from one to two feet while running full speed.
That's biologically impossible. So, the rule is compromised.
The MLB rule should have been changed decades ago, or the base changed to facilitate the current rule. Extending first base so that it firmly rests in the running lane is a reasonable solution.
@Zachtronics_XBL said in The following description for an uploaded player was flagged as INAPPROPRIATE:
I created and uploaded George Sisler (whose last name has not been re-recorded yet), and apparently the following description was offensive "HoF 1B/OF/P, Best Hitter in Browns-Orioles history, scouted Jackie R"
I don't understand. This is offensive, yet you allow logos of Nazi symbols, drug use, beer advertisements, nude women, and [censored]?
I've been very patient with your studio for the past 7 + years, but it's time to do something about this.
Catering to duplication of tens of thousands of logos, both vulgar and non-vulgar, while expecting the user base to recreate EVERY player each year is ridiculous.
What's your solution, San Diego Studios? What are you doing to address this?
I am bringing this excellent post to the attention of Joe at SDS. You make strong points and in a very professional manner. It is time for SDS to address both issues forthrightly. Like with a great deal of the code that tries to automatically limit what customers can do, the effect is rejecting perfectly valid attempts to do things that are reasonable, moral, and wholesome, while facilitating some of the worst forms of vulgarity and outright cheating.