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Pretty sure it’s the same this year.

@jisaksen2422_PSN look. You obviously work for SDS and will defend anything they do. Or else you’re just oppositional defiant. We heard your opinion. You think it’s fine that the cards you rip in packs have no value and you want to stop anyone who disagrees with you from speaking by being obnoxious and disrupting the discussion. It won’t work. They’re ruining this game FOR YOU too, you just don’t understand it yet. Just move on. Reddit bans these sorts of discussions, because they hate anything non-conformist like investing in a trading card game. Everyone must play the same way and enjoy the same things. Thats their happy place. Group security. Individualism scares them. Maybe you’d be more comfortable there where you aren’t feeling compelled to disrupt constantly when investors who got bait and switched air their grievances.

@eatyum_PSN

The diamonds are not cheaper. They’re MORE expensive. It’s the common-gold cards that are all sitting at quicksell.

The cards you buy because they’re rare and you can’t rip enough packs to pull them? UP.

The cards you sell because you get them all the time? DOWN.

Thats what they did to this game.

@The_Joneser_PSN I already explained the paycut you take when the value of gold and below cards (which you sell) drops to quick sell. I don’t know how to make such an obvious thing simpler.

But I’ll try one more time.

You play the game.
You receive packs of cards.
Most of the cards you don’t need.
You sell those cards.

If the value is high, because people want those cards for investments, you get paid well.

If the value of those cards is quick sell because there are no investors to buy those cards, you’re getting minimum wage.

At this point last year golds were 1500-2000 stubs on average. This year they’re closer to 700. Because there’s no investors buying them up.

So the solution to the ‘problem’ of people buying packs of equipment and then selling that equipment was apparently to limit players to 20 packs for life.

As a result, in only a few days, diamond equipment is skyrocketing in price as there are few packs being ripped.

One of the bats is so rare there are literally 0 sellers. Bids all the way to 25k. Catchers gear 30k plus.

I assume SDS believes we’ll all just burn up the credit card and buy stubs. They’re wrong. Do not reward them for artificially constricting supply like this.

On the DD side they are trying to force people to burn up their credit cards by making investments impossible because of inventory restrictions, thus flooding the market with supply and driving the value of all the cards you earn down. On the RTTS side they’re choking off supply by not allowing you to buy equipment packs, driving the cost of everything through the roof.

Both are obvious money grabs and openly hostile to players. This should not be tolerated.

You can only buy 20 packs now anyway. These cards are going to be so rare it’s ridiculous.

@cusejuice315_PSN sure, he was 600k several weeks in (not week 1!) but when you earned gold and silver cards in packs they were worth 2-3 times more than this year; meaning Ohtani was WAY CHEAPER last year for grinders.

@sbchamps17_NSW the company is now directly hostile to a large chunk of the player base and they’re hurting everyone’s experience, but the Reddit types here refuse to see it.

@The_Joneser_PSN so you don’t get cards by playing, and you don’t want to buy the cards with stubs… so you’re just an SDS employee?

You’re happy that Ohtani is 600,000 stubs and you’re glad that if you want to buy Rutschman’s gold card that he’ll be quick sell instead of 100 stubs more?

You’re happy to take a 75% pay cut to save 100 stubs on one or two cards?

Genius

@Busta-21_XBL that’s what you guys are SDS want; you want people to quit? Smart business model.

@VioletNine9_XBL

Scared the big zone hitters will beat you? Don’t be. You’re so good at pitching. Let them have the same abilities you have. You don’t need to handicap them to win. Believe in yourself.

Ohtani at 600k stubs this year is about 600-800 gold cards. Last year at this point, he was about 200 gold cards in cost.

Grinders who reject the investment side of this trading card game don’t seem to realize yet, that pushing investors and collectors out of the game made their grind less rewarding.

Your ‘pay’ for playing DD is packs of cards, which you sell to obtain stubs. And you took about a 67% pay cut, grinders.

When investors can hold large numbers of cards there are fewer on the open market, which holds their value up. When investors buy up cards they didn’t rip in packs, it drives their value up.

With investors given the middle finger, they have no choice but to dump the cards they get. And Nobody is bidding up live series cards that are not used in competitive play this year. As a result, live series might as well be called QuickSell series.

So when you grinders receive packs for completing another repetition of conquest or diamond quest and sell those cards, 99% of the time now it’s at quick sell value.

The investor market makes YOUR pay higher. Now that they’re gone, you have to grind 3 or 4 times as long to get those gatekeeper cards like Ohtani. Because he’s MORE expensive this year, not only in terms of US dollars, but also in terms of time to grind.

So when you attack the investors and collectors who enjoy that aspect of the game and defend SDS’ decision to push them away, and make no mistake; SDS wants them to all quit (many are), you are hurting yourself too.

Let the investors vent and appeal to SDS to restore their joy and reason to play this game. They’re advocating for you, too, whether you know it or not.

@eatyum_PSN you get paid in packs. The packs contain 99.9% cheap cards.

When investors drive the price of those cheap cards up you are getting a raise. When they sell those cards and the price sits at quick sell you are getting minimum wage.

You have to rip 3-4 times as many ballin packs to quick sell the golds to get an ohtani this year compared to last year.

You took a 75% pay cut and you think that’s good?

Do you want a job IRL? I’ll hire you.

@xero4019_XBL you should judge the value of live series in terms of how many gold cards it takes. If gold cards are 2.5k, a 2.5m set is a lot easier than when golds average 600-700.

Yes, the total is still high. Ohtani is now 500+ gold cards. Last year he was 150-200 so when you grind out that ballin’ is a gold pack you were 2-3 times closer to finishing live series than you are today.

And that’s specifically because unused cards are all sitting at quick sell and credit card burners are driving up the price of the 9-15 best cards sky high. Because there’s no reason now to buy and hold any more than 1 copy of cards that aren’t on your team.

You’re an offline only player?

Again. This post was not for you. Move along to your forums and leave us alone. None of this affects you either way.

@Easy_Duhz_It__PSN

Good luck using 85’s when the money spenders have 98’s. /shrug

But either way, wouldn’t you prefer if the live series cards you get in packs you earn by grinding still have some value going forward?

No? You don’t care? You don’t like being rewarded for your time? Ok. The rest of us do.

@Teak2112_MLBTS

Nope. Just glad that people are posting so much about this. I hope it never stops. I don’t want to see this game turned into 2k where you have to drop $3500 for one card and can’t sell it when it’s no longer relevant. And even though because you are not an investor and think these changes don’t affect you and your game experience; they do. I’m actually advocating FOR you too. You just can’t see it.

@PAinPA_PSN

One week in and live series is already Quicksell series. That’s a dead economy.

In past years you could earn packs and rip them and get something in the market for your live series cards. But these restrictions mean the people who used to buy your cards aren’t there. so now you will be quick selling everything except a few cards all year.

Your insults are dunning-krueger tier. You haven’t thought this through whatsoever. Just move along, this post isn’t intended for you.

Nearly every card is sitting at Quick sell value in under 1 week. No demand for anything except shohei and a few others. That it literally what a dead economy means. There was nothing hyperbolic about my post.

And it’s because if you aren’t using the card there’s no reason to buy it now. You can’t hold enough of them to make a reasonable profit when they get upgraded in overall, and it’s too cumbersome to make exchange packs.

Dead. Economy. Live series is already quicksell series in less than a week.

That is not good for investors, obviously, but it’s not good for anyone else either.

He will take you 3 times as long to grind this year. You may not value your time, but you should. Time literally is what you trade for money in this world