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@PAinPA said in Very early:
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@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Oh...you haven’t seen it...obviously that means it doesn’t exist.
Get real. You’re complaining because you’re frustrated and I get that. But you’re also ignoring reality.
I'm not frustrated at all, I'm supporting OP in his opinion and then I explain why with good factual arguments.
But it’s not factual. It’s your opinion.
Then show me that video please, where a batter who sits fastball is able to foul off a 70mph curveball. I'll wait.
Fine. Here you go.
Thank you for proving me right, poor troll job too. Consider yourself muted.
I saw hoskins do it sometime in 2019, fouled off 8 pitches and on the 14th pitch hit a homer, but I'm not digging through 8 months of highlights to find the clip
It happens quite often. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@PAinPA said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Oh...you haven’t seen it...obviously that means it doesn’t exist.
Get real. You’re complaining because you’re frustrated and I get that. But you’re also ignoring reality.
I'm not frustrated at all, I'm supporting OP in his opinion and then I explain why with good factual arguments.
But it’s not factual. It’s your opinion.
Then show me that video please, where a batter who sits fastball is able to foul off a 70mph curveball. I'll wait.
Fine. Here you go.
Thank you for proving me right, poor troll job too. Consider yourself muted.
I saw hoskins do it sometime in 2019, fouled off 8 pitches and on the 14th pitch hit a homer, but I'm not digging through 8 months of highlights to find the clip
It happens quite often. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
And Hoskins has terrible bat to ball skills..
A good hitter can foul off tons of pitches until he gets his pitch.. example. Prime Jose Bautista (like 2010-2015).. dude would foul off anything thrown near the black until he got something to handle...
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@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
I don't see that happening on higher difficulty.. it also ties into the hitter's vision rating and pitcher's K/9 rating 100%..
What's the point of getting better cards if these ratings don't affect gameplay?And watch a game. Most major league hitters can adjust to stay alive off a slow curve when sitting fastball. Also, who throws a 70mph curve that also throws hard irl?
My point is that someone who sits fastball and swings without any discipline at every offspeed pitch in the dirt shouldn't be rewarded by keeping the at bat alive. No matter how much you try to argue that is is "normal" in real life baseball, it really isn't. And it shouldn't happen in this game either. If you can't sit back, you should strike out. Learn to adapt.
Agree that it is pointless to reward bad input so consistently, but have you ever watched an Eddie Rosario at-bat? He swings at literally everything and generally has good enough bat-to-ball skills to foul off anything, regardless of pitch type or location. It shouldnt be rewarded that way in a video game, just saying it can happen IRL.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
FYI, hitters foul off out of zone pitches all the time in baseball.. this is not far fetched even slightly
OK. If you are swinging for a fastball you will never sniff making contact with an off-speed pitch especially not in the big leagues.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
FYI, hitters foul off out of zone pitches all the time in baseball.. this is not far fetched even slightly
OK. If you are swinging for a fastball you will never sniff making contact with an off-speed pitch especially not in the big leagues.
Sure, Jan.
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@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
FYI, hitters foul off out of zone pitches all the time in baseball.. this is not far fetched even slightly
OK. If you are swinging for a fastball you will never sniff making contact with an off-speed pitch especially not in the big leagues.
If that were the case and you couldn't adjust, there would be 20-25 strikeouts a game per team, genius...
Even when you're not talking about your ping or complaining about something, you offer bad insight. Way to go buddy
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
FYI, hitters foul off out of zone pitches all the time in baseball.. this is not far fetched even slightly
OK. If you are swinging for a fastball you will never sniff making contact with an off-speed pitch especially not in the big leagues.
If that were the case and you couldn't adjust, there would be 20-25 strikeouts a game per team, genius...
Even when you're not talking about your ping or complaining about something, you offer bad insight. Way to go buddy
In addition, fouls have gone up like 12% in the last 20 years. It's a ridiculous notion to think that world class athletes wouldn't be able to adjust at least enough to chop a ball foul.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
FYI, hitters foul off out of zone pitches all the time in baseball.. this is not far fetched even slightly
Didn’t say they don’t foul off pitches out of the zone? I said completely flailing is super rare and unrealistic when they do it 10+ times a game
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I’m sure you’ve got data to back that up...surely it’s not just how you feel...
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@PAinPA said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
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@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Oh...you haven’t seen it...obviously that means it doesn’t exist.
Get real. You’re complaining because you’re frustrated and I get that. But you’re also ignoring reality.
I'm not frustrated at all, I'm supporting OP in his opinion and then I explain why with good factual arguments.
But it’s not factual. It’s your opinion.
Then show me that video please, where a batter who sits fastball is able to foul off a 70mph curveball. I'll wait.
Fine. Here you go.
Thank you for proving me right, poor troll job too. Consider yourself muted.
I saw hoskins do it sometime in 2019, fouled off 8 pitches and on the 14th pitch hit a homer, but I'm not digging through 8 months of highlights to find the clip
It happens quite often. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
And Hoskins has terrible bat to ball skills..
A good hitter can foul off tons of pitches until he gets his pitch.. example. Prime Jose Bautista (like 2010-2015).. dude would foul off anything thrown near the black until he got something to handle...
Not lunging and completely off balance though
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@PAinPA said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Oh...you haven’t seen it...obviously that means it doesn’t exist.
Get real. You’re complaining because you’re frustrated and I get that. But you’re also ignoring reality.
I'm not frustrated at all, I'm supporting OP in his opinion and then I explain why with good factual arguments.
But it’s not factual. It’s your opinion.
Then show me that video please, where a batter who sits fastball is able to foul off a 70mph curveball. I'll wait.
Fine. Here you go.
Thank you for proving me right, poor troll job too. Consider yourself muted.
I saw hoskins do it sometime in 2019, fouled off 8 pitches and on the 14th pitch hit a homer, but I'm not digging through 8 months of highlights to find the clip
I’m not saying foul ball aren’t a thing . I think u guys aren’t understanding . I’m talking about completely flailing on one foot, very early there’s no way they should hit that .
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@raesONE said in Very early:
@PAinPA said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@WiryHooligan22 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Oh...you haven’t seen it...obviously that means it doesn’t exist.
Get real. You’re complaining because you’re frustrated and I get that. But you’re also ignoring reality.
I'm not frustrated at all, I'm supporting OP in his opinion and then I explain why with good factual arguments.
But it’s not factual. It’s your opinion.
Then show me that video please, where a batter who sits fastball is able to foul off a 70mph curveball. I'll wait.
Fine. Here you go.
Thank you for proving me right, poor troll job too. Consider yourself muted.
I saw hoskins do it sometime in 2019, fouled off 8 pitches and on the 14th pitch hit a homer, but I'm not digging through 8 months of highlights to find the clip
I'm not saying batters can't foul off pitches consistently. I'm saying that if a batter sells out on a fastball, there is NO WAY he can make contact on a 70mph curveball in the dirt while flailing. It's just not possible.
Exactly . These guys think that I’m complaining that there are foul balls , that’s not the case. I totally understand foul ball are part of the game . I’m stating about the lunging on the front foot where they just sit heater no matter what and are fouling pitches in the dirt off 99 Kluber on one foot till this game hangs them a meatball .
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@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Google Vlad Guerrero... The best bad pitch hitter there ever was...; Starlin Castro is pretty decent at it too
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It’s not as bad as years before. It never will be SDS feels people would rather make random contact than receive a strikeout if they miss. And it looks like it’s working as far as this thread goes lol
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This game is trash and skill is NOT rewarded
Very Early & Very Late should be a swing and a miss but then Little Billy’s wont be able to “compete”
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@CapnBob78 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@raesONE said in Very early:
This has been a problem for years, it keeps at bats undeservingly alive. Worst thing is when they foul off 5 or 6 pitches in this manner and then you hang 1 for a homer.
This literally happens regularly in baseball.. like, every game!!
So? I wasn't saying it's unrealistic or that it doesn't happen in real life baseball. I'm saying it's a problem in this game because it decreases the skill gap in a pointless and frustrating manner.
Oh and btw, I've never seen a batter who sits fastball being able to flail and still make contact on a 70mph curveball. Show me the video of that please.
Google Vlad Guerrero... The best bad pitch hitter there ever was...; Starlin Castro is pretty decent at it too
Those are very rare instances. It’s like saying that because one player is a pitcher that can throw with either arm, now every pitcher should be able to do that.
Your logic makes no sense sorry.
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@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
@D_e_m_I_s_E said in Very early:
@Nanthrax_1 said in Very early:
FYI, hitters foul off out of zone pitches all the time in baseball.. this is not far fetched even slightly
OK. If you are swinging for a fastball you will never sniff making contact with an off-speed pitch especially not in the big leagues.
If that were the case and you couldn't adjust, there would be 20-25 strikeouts a game per team, genius...
Even when you're not talking about your ping or complaining about something, you offer bad insight. Way to go buddy
You tell any major league baseball player to swing at every pitch like it is a 95 mph fastball and they will miss anything slower than 90. Do you people not know anything about baseball? You can foul off those pitches in this game. Not in the real deal.
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