Imagine if Pitching was Actually a skill like hitting.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL Analog might be better for some people that aren’t good at pinpoint, but pinpoint has the smallest PAR’s.
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The problem is you’re not really rewarded for throwing a perfect. It’s just going somewhere in the PAR not necessarily where you want it. So pitching is just kinda rng where your perfect will end up in the PAR. On the flip side of that if you could put it wherever you want I feel it would not be good for the game
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@Joeflakes_XBL And the size of PAR’s depend on player ratings. It’s a pretty good system when it works properly.
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The problem is you’re not really rewarded for throwing a perfect. It’s just going somewhere in the PAR not necessarily where you want it. So pitching is just kinda rng where your perfect will end up in the PAR. On the flip side of that if you could put it wherever you want I feel it would not be good for the game
The problem is when it feels like the game is working against you and the ball consistently goes in an unfavorable area within the PAR.
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@GoozeFn_PSN i dont think the pars work properly on analog. They are bigger, but If i perfect or even really good the pitch. The pitch goes exactly where I want it to go. Literally every time. Never a missed location. I also think analog maybe harder than pin point to execute. Maybe thats why. Harder to get perfects on anolog. But i use it because if I hit it. It goes exactly where I want it. The only time the pitch is off is when I dont execute properly.
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@GoozeFn_PSN yea this is my exact point, pinpoint is very easy once you know what to do and you will hit perfects very consistently.
It's like the moonshit event we just did all of my opponents are dotting the corners using 69 overall pitchers with 50 control. Doesn't really make sense to have that kind of accuracy...
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Pitching is absolutely a skill in this game. You have to understand how to tunnel pitches, read your opponents tendencies and know how to stay out of patterns.
For the first time ever I played some co op with randoms when finishing the June Countdown program. No disrespect intended but playing with those lower rated players, yeah, pitching is absolutely a skill in this game
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@doobiebross66-72_PSN I fully agree with your post.
But theres not much skill in actually doing the pitching or fielding - actually performing the inputs. That seems silly to me in a game where batting takes a ton of input skill.
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@rubicante23_PSN I absolutely agree with you.
I think it would be cool to get new or similar pitching interfaces, but, make them more “difficult” to execute based on a pitchers control rating
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL it’s same on pinpoint I have gotten very very good at clipping the zone the key is be safe rather then sorry.
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@rubicante23_PSN And yet, hitting still dominates this game. If you make pitching harder to execute, you have to make hitting even harder. That doesn’t sound like a good idea to me.
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@GoozeFn_PSN why does hitting have to be harder? Seems like they could both be equally precise and hard.
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Ah yes cuz everyone is gonna continue to play when they can’t score runs.
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@rubicante23_PSN hitting is definitely harder than pitching in this game. Its not even close.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL well yeah, thats my whole point - hitting requires a ton of input skill, pitching and fielding dont. Seems weird to me.
But every game is that way - dont think Ive ever played a baseball game that really puts an intense focus on pitching and fielding.
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@rubicante23_PSN I would like to see pitching and fielding require a little more skill as well. If you remember we had a bunch of morons complaining about pitching earlier this year about balls, strikes and pars. Somehow acting like pitching in this game was hard. I do like the new strike zone however was a good change.
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Yeah, its just easy from an input perspective.
I agree that pitch selection and location is something most players dont understand. Theres a meta way to pitch that most people know, a slightly deeper meta that some people know, and a very deep meta that only a few people know. And these metas are different depending on if youre playing all-star or legend.
It sucks that there is such a meta, cause its not realistic - but no sports or other games really try to counteract the meta. So it is...what it is.
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@rubicante23_PSN Hitting already dominates the game. If you make pitching harder, every single game will be double digits because hitting will inevitably be easier. People are already running around with .400+ averages.
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@SpawnOfDitka_XBL No one is arguing that hitting is harder.
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@GoozeFn_PSN perhaps. I think pitchers should be better early in the year, and hitters worse - that would probably fix it.
Power creep with hitting is out of control - this game plays SO much better with like gold shield batters - but people will yell their head off if they change it.
