2nd inning predictions
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Last boss is Vet HanRam from 2013. Where he played only 86 games might as well have his clevend card from last year.
Really he should be breakout 2008
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@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Last boss is HanRam
A Florida Marlins HanRam?
That is the only version that counts
No Bias
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@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Last boss is HanRam
A Florida Marlins HanRam?
That is the only version that counts
No Bias
Nope 2013 vet 92 overall had his highest batting average that year but only play in 86 games. It should be the 2008 or 2009 version
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@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Last boss is HanRam
A Florida Marlins HanRam?
That is the only version that counts
No Bias
Nope 2013 vet 92 overall had his highest batting average that year but only play in 86 games. It should be the 2008 or 2009 version
I just saw the tweet....Big time let down
I was hoping for 2009
151 Games
.342 Batting Avg (Lead League)
.342/.410./543
7.4 WAR (Career High)
148 OPS+ (I love this stat)
and finished #2 in MVP voting (to some dude in St. Louis, who is really good;) ) -
@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Last boss is HanRam
A Florida Marlins HanRam?
That is the only version that counts
No Bias
Nope 2013 vet 92 overall had his highest batting average that year but only play in 86 games. It should be the 2008 or 2009 version
Is 2013 a guess or you saw/heard something?
I was thinking 2009
151 Games
.342 Batting Avg (Lead League)
.342/.410./543
7.4 WAR (Career High)
148 OPS+ (I love this stat)
and finished #2 in MVP voting (to some dude in St. Louis, who is really good;) )I saw it on twitter 2013 Vet HanRam 92 diamond
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@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Last boss is HanRam
A Florida Marlins HanRam?
That is the only version that counts
No Bias
Nope 2013 vet 92 overall had his highest batting average that year but only play in 86 games. It should be the 2008 or 2009 version
Is 2013 a guess or you saw/heard something?
I was thinking 2009
151 Games
.342 Batting Avg (Lead League)
.342/.410./543
7.4 WAR (Career High)
148 OPS+ (I love this stat)
and finished #2 in MVP voting (to some dude in St. Louis, who is really good;) )I saw it on twitter 2013 Vet HanRam 92 diamond
So did I, I edited my post to reflect that.
These 2nd inning bosses leave alot to be desired.
Compared to last year (98 OVR MadBum), it is a big drop off. These 2nd inning bosses will not last long on most teams. -
Will they at least have a prestige to a blood diamond version like the first ones?
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@BTurgeon90 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Will they at least have a prestige to a blood diamond version like the first ones?
But a 2013 Vet HanRam??? should be breakout 09
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@Boneman05 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@BTurgeon90 said in 2nd inning predictions:
Will they at least have a prestige to a blood diamond version like the first ones?
But a 2013 Vet HanRam??? should be breakout 09
I’m aware.. but we can’t change/decide that now.. I’m just curious if we’ll be able to grind a better version of the boss we choose or if it’s just gonna be a fire sale as soon you get them.
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@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
His career wRC+ is 102, almost the definition of an average player.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
His career wRC+ is 102, almost the definition of an average player.
Why all the Joe Carter hate? Are you a Phillies fan?
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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
His career wRC+ is 102, almost the definition of an average player.
Why all the Joe Carter hate? Are you a Phillies fan?
Don’t hate joe carter, he just happens to be a prime example of a player that wasn’t very good but people will stubbornly say was good.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
His career wRC+ is 102, almost the definition of an average player.
Why all the Joe Carter hate? Are you a Phillies fan?
Don’t hate joe carter, he just happens to be a prime example of a player that wasn’t very good but people will stubbornly say was good.
Fair enough. He was never amazing. But he did have plenty of good years. I just noticed that you've been pretty adamant about Joe Carter being overrated on these forums, that's why I asked.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
I know. The OPS is also good-but-not-great. The point is that during his prime he was a good player who was highly valued and helped his team win. No-one argues that he's comparable to Ted Williams, Babe Ruth and Stan Musial. He's in the Jimmy Rollins, Alex Gordon, Pablo Sandoval etc. kind of category. Good players on championship teams.
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@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
Don’t mind drivebytrucker, he hates Carter so much I suspect he’s her mom’s baby mama but never talked to him and she never got child support
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@AfackinI said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@e_tough said in 2nd inning predictions:
I bet joe carter and bob feller are two
Of the bossesSDS would never make joe carter a boss, that’s ridiculous, he wasn’t good enough.
Oh wait...
Oh no...These truly are dark times.
He did hit possibly one of coolest most hype homers ever...
exactly and thank you for saying this - ppl who weren't even alive at the time of that HR commenting like they know the Carter Magic
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@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
His career wRC+ is 102, almost the definition of an average player.
Why all the Joe Carter hate? Are you a Phillies fan?
Jack,
I was thinking the same thing, then I went to his baseball-reference page.
OMG, his numbers are VERY average. My memories of him do not line up with his numbers.A Career WAR of 19.6
An OPS+ of 105 for his career.
A career slash line of .259/.306/.464If you just look at the numbers and forget the Mitch Williams HR, the dude was average. I originally thought he was a good, perennial All Star, but he wasn't even that. He made the All Star team 5 times.
DrivebyTrucker is correct on this one. -
Joe carters “prime season” which earned him a 93, he finished with an OPS+ stat in the low 120’s, meaning he was above average but not spectacular. Definition of a low diamond imo
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@ItsaCanesthing said in 2nd inning predictions:
@IIJACKINTHBOXII said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in 2nd inning predictions:
@Rbase_96 said in 2nd inning predictions:
From 1991-1993 Joe Carter hit 100 home runs, finished 5th, 3rd and 12th in the MVP voting respectively and won 2 silver sluggers. And of course he helped Toronto to consecutive world series rings, capped of by one of the most iconic home runs ever. I'd say that's certainly good enough for a prime card and early boss, despite the fact that he's not an all-time great.
He also only had an average 117 wRC+ during those 3 years, which is nothing special.
His career wRC+ is 102, almost the definition of an average player.
Why all the Joe Carter hate? Are you a Phillies fan?
Jack,
I was thinking the same thing, then I went to his baseball-reference page.
OMG, his numbers are VERY average. My memories of him do not line up with his numbers.A Career WAR of 19.6
An OPS+ of 105 for his career.
A career slash line of .259/.306/.464If you just look at the numbers and forget the Mitch Williams HR, the dude was average. I originally thought he was a good, perennial All Star, but he wasn't even that. He made the All Star team 5 times.
DrivebyTrucker is correct on this one.Oh yeah, I agree for sure. Joe Carter is overrated. I was just wondering why DriveBy was so active in the Joe Carter discussion on these forums. DriveBy seems to hate Carter more than others, that's why I asked.
