This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version
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yea you're right, they should really get on fixing the gameplay, I mean its not like there is something much bigger going on in the world. It's not like they are barred from going into work or anything like that, no excuse.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
18 is still worse.
I’m not sure, I think ‘18 was only worse because of the terrible content. If it wasn’t for the souvenir paywalls, linear content pyramid scheme and only one immortal 99 available at each position (they didn’t even give us enough to fill the rotation and bullpen lmfao) then ‘18 would be a better game. That being said, I’ve never seen a game with worse content than ‘18 and probably never will (Remember how they released no content for a looooong time in summer and then we got a single Matt Holliday card that sucked and that was the entire content drop? I can’t forgive and forget that part).
As for ‘20, OP is right on the money. You cannot hit the ball well. You cannot pitch well, even if you buy stubs and upgrade your rotation in the forlorn hopes of the ball going where you want it to. You cannot be sure that your diamond outfielder will catch the ball, even if you’re camped under it. It’s absolutely awful. I hate it. Nothing works well, the game doesn’t feel fluid and natural, it’s not an enjoyable experience to play, even if you win the game by a comfortable margin. Most people only complain when they lose, but it’s immaterial really. The fun factor just isn’t there this year, every game is a slog through random outcomes that make no sense, every batter check swings at every pitch because nobody can time a fastball against offspeed and the game is often decided by whichever outfielder can’t make a play because they’re attempting to field a ball that’s hit near the outfield wall.“No changes to gameplay tuning, we’re monitoring data on the backend”
You need to hope that people are still willing to play Diamond Dynasty when you get around to crunching that data, because it’s been less than a month and I’m close to being done with online play personally. -
@ComebackLogic said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
18 is still worse.
I’m not sure, I think ‘18 was only worse because of the terrible content. If it wasn’t for the souvenir paywalls, linear content pyramid scheme and only one immortal 99 available at each position (they didn’t even give us enough to fill the rotation and bullpen lmfao) then ‘18 would be a better game. That being said, I’ve never seen a game with worse content than ‘18 and probably never will (Remember how they released no content for a looooong time in summer and then we got a single Matt Holliday card that sucked and that was the entire content drop? I can’t forgive and forget that part).
As for ‘20, OP is right on the money. You cannot hit the ball well. You cannot pitch well, even if you buy stubs and upgrade your rotation in the forlorn hopes of the ball going where you want it to. You cannot be sure that your diamond outfielder will catch the ball, even if you’re camped under it. It’s absolutely awful. I hate it. Nothing works well, the game doesn’t feel fluid and natural, it’s not an enjoyable experience to play, even if you win the game by a comfortable margin. Most people only complain when they lose, but it’s immaterial really. The fun factor just isn’t there this year, every game is a slog through random outcomes that make no sense, every batter check swings at every pitch because nobody can time a fastball against offspeed and the game is often decided by whichever outfielder can’t make a play because they’re attempting to field a ball that’s hit near the outfield wall.“No changes to gameplay tuning, we’re monitoring data on the backend”
You need to hope that people are still willing to play Diamond Dynasty when you get around to crunching that data, because it’s been less than a month and I’m close to being done with online play personally.18 definitely had more issues other than the bad content.
Pitch speeds were softball level slow, making fastballs basically useless.
An entire type of hitter was completely unusable, that being contact hitters. Those two things were massive flaws, so big that 18 is by far the worst game in the series, in my opinion. Every game will have its own issues though, so it just depends on what bothers you more.
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Oh yeah I forgot about the contact hitters somehow, although power has always been the meta. I recall Ramone laughing on stream when they released Ozzie Smith because he couldn’t hit the ball past the infield. The bronze Neikro as well, lmao. Yeah, ‘18 was cheeks.
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The games a mess.
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@NicholasHowardT5 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
Nah not at all, last year was imo way worse, and claiming they don’t care when they are more than likely working on a patch for the issues is brilliant
Why would they need a patch when the game released 10x better then this? They coulda left the game alone and worked on fixing some of the pitching issues instead of putting out a panic patch to bring everyone’s averages and ERAs down.
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Definitely not. But it does get frustrating, mainly because I truly thought this year was going to be better than we could have even imagined.
Oh well, I guess there is still some hope though. Very early yet.
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@xIAmJumpMan23x said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
It has to be right? Literally nothing works consistently or make sense
Hitting: Hitting is a complete mess. The hitting outcomes are as random and arbitrary as ever. And to add to that, people are hitting HRs (at least against me) at an insane rate. I feel like I'm back in '17 or '18 (don't remember which one) where literally anybody could hit a HR on any pitch. Perfect flyballs are low exit velos and then early/ok swings are HRs. And obviously everybody knows the problem with PCI placement. Balls in the middle are "ok" contact but balls completely outside the PCI are "good" contact. The other day I had a swing where the ball was COMPLETELY outside the inner PCI and it was a "good" contact HR.
Pitching: Pitching is a nightmare. Nobody has any control over their pitches. Fastballs are now at warp-speed and the high sinker is making a comeback. You see the same 3 pitchers in every game.
Fielding: Outsiders don't lock on and infielders make way too many errors
Seriously....what is good about this game? The content. Maybe, but who cares when every aspect of the game is atrocious. Follow CardinalBird on Twitter. The dude is an MLBTheShow OG and basically does nothing but complain about the horrible gameplay
CardinalBird sounds like my kind of person. lol
Someone else with some common sense.
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Releasing a patch to fix hitting, when most of the community was still playing on veteran difficulty was asinine. Of course averages and HR's were up on the easiest difficulty level in the game.
You'd think they would at least wait until one person had reached world series before jacking up the game.
Hopefully they return it to the release state and let it play out.
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Its dumb anyway because who cares if the top 0.5% of the player base has unrealistic batting averages? Now half the players are struggling to hit .200 and that's not realistic either, or fun.
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A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
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@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
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@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
You talking about This guy or?...
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1243320920594206721?s=21
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@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
You talking about This guy or?...
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1243320920594206721?s=21
Yep, the guy that said this https://twitter.com/YourFriendKyle_/status/1246924046870044672
He goes back and forth. He wants to like the game, but he's thrown in the towel until it gets patched.
Your post is from last month my dude, mine is from 48 hours ago.
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@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
You talking about This guy or?...
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1243320920594206721?s=21
Yep, the guy that said this https://twitter.com/YourFriendKyle_/status/1246924046870044672
He goes back and forth. He wants to like the game, but he's thrown in the towel until it gets patched.
Your post is from last month my dude, mine is from 48 hours ago.
1 day ago
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1246842241366159361?s=21
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@xIAmJumpMan23x said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
It has to be right? Literally nothing works consistently or make sense
Hitting: Hitting is a complete mess. The hitting outcomes are as random and arbitrary as ever. And to add to that, people are hitting HRs (at least against me) at an insane rate. I feel like I'm back in '17 or '18 (don't remember which one) where literally anybody could hit a HR on any pitch. Perfect flyballs are low exit velos and then early/ok swings are HRs. And obviously everybody knows the problem with PCI placement. Balls in the middle are "ok" contact but balls completely outside the PCI are "good" contact. The other day I had a swing where the ball was COMPLETELY outside the inner PCI and it was a "good" contact HR.
Pitching: Pitching is a nightmare. Nobody has any control over their pitches. Fastballs are now at warp-speed and the high sinker is making a comeback. You see the same 3 pitchers in every game.
Fielding: Outsiders don't lock on and infielders make way too many errors
Seriously....what is good about this game? The content. Maybe, but who cares when every aspect of the game is atrocious. Follow CardinalBird on Twitter. The dude is an MLBTheShow OG and basically does nothing but complain about the horrible gameplay
Yup, you nailed all the problems. So much potential. So little communication. At least tell us this is how they intend the game to be played.
They said they were gonna fix the homerun banner glitch weeks ago. Still there. If Coronavirus is causing delay, please say so.
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@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
You talking about This guy or?...
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1243320920594206721?s=21
Yep, the guy that said this https://twitter.com/YourFriendKyle_/status/1246924046870044672
He goes back and forth. He wants to like the game, but he's thrown in the towel until it gets patched.
Your post is from last month my dude, mine is from 48 hours ago.
1 day ago
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1246842241366159361?s=21
I'm a member/mod on his stream. We did have a lot of fun! Lots of people were there, and we got lots of new subs.
That has nothing to do with the quality of the game...lol
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@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
You talking about This guy or?...
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1243320920594206721?s=21
Yep, the guy that said this https://twitter.com/YourFriendKyle_/status/1246924046870044672
He goes back and forth. He wants to like the game, but he's thrown in the towel until it gets patched.
Your post is from last month my dude, mine is from 48 hours ago.
1 day ago
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1246842241366159361?s=21
I'm a member/mod on his stream. We did have a lot of fun! Lots of people were there, and we got lots of new subs.
That has nothing to do with the quality of the game...lol
So.. the most fun he’s ever had streaming since he’s been streaming since what 15? 16? But hey the game can’t have anything to do with it...
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@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@lucas8181 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
@skepple15 said in This is now the worst gameplay of any Show version:
A lot of people are finding out that they’re not as good as they thought they were in 18 and 19, are there some issues with fielding and pitching? Yea there are, but hitting is pretty [censored] close to being great.
Also, CB5 has been a constant complainer since the game got more popular and people started to pass him in the game.
The first two players to make WS are agreeing that hitting is broken. Since that's not you, I'll agree with them and the majority of the community.
Nice flex attempt though
You talking about This guy or?...
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1243320920594206721?s=21
Yep, the guy that said this https://twitter.com/YourFriendKyle_/status/1246924046870044672
He goes back and forth. He wants to like the game, but he's thrown in the towel until it gets patched.
Your post is from last month my dude, mine is from 48 hours ago.
1 day ago
https://twitter.com/yourfriendkyle_/status/1246842241366159361?s=21
I'm a member/mod on his stream. We did have a lot of fun! Lots of people were there, and we got lots of new subs.
That has nothing to do with the quality of the game...lol
So.. the most fun he’s ever had streaming since he’s been streaming since what 15? 16? But hey the game can’t have anything to do with it...
He just started streaming, and he just started his youtube channel.
Yes, it's fun when people sub and you make money off of your new business. Not to sound rude, but you aren't an adult are you...
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You play 18? 18 was the worst game I've ever played