The Problem
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@the_dragon1912 said in The Problem:
If they would have done this when they originally made the programs there would not have been a problem, that I can agree on. Doing it this way, especially after some streamers made some boise about wanting this to happen, is blatantly disrespectful to the people that give SDS their paychecks
if your spending your paycheck on this game thats on you. You can play BR and Ranked and earn two free 99's without even having to be good.
I should have clarified, I meant it as the 95% of us that get screwed over by this keep the lights on at SDS.
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You don’t NEED every card in the game but some of us WANT every card in the game and it motivates us to play and grind. That is not a participation trophy it’s putting hours of our time into a game to earn rewards. It’s okay to have opinions and different motivations to play other than being in the top 1%.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You don’t NEED every card in the game but some of us WANT every card in the game and it motivates us to play and grind. That is not a participation trophy it’s putting hours of our time into a game to earn rewards. It’s okay to have opinions and different motivations to play other than being in the top 1%.
I don't even need every card in the game, (been there done that last year and it was boring), but I need some way to play and earn stubs, I like using different players all the time, and they are shutting down at every turn ways to make stubs while playing
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You don’t NEED every card in the game but some of us WANT every card in the game and it motivates us to play and grind. That is not a participation trophy it’s putting hours of our time into a game to earn rewards. It’s okay to have opinions and different motivations to play other than being in the top 1%.
You are earning a 99 at the end of the day for a program, should they go back to the old way of BR/ranked and not give programs at all?
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@eatyum_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You don’t NEED every card in the game but some of us WANT every card in the game and it motivates us to play and grind. That is not a participation trophy it’s putting hours of our time into a game to earn rewards. It’s okay to have opinions and different motivations to play other than being in the top 1%.
I don't even need every card in the game, (been there done that last year and it was boring), but I need some way to play and earn stubs, I like using different players all the time, and they are shutting down at every turn ways to make stubs while playing
SDS isnt naive I'm almost positive by the next ranked program (this one is 4 weeks) they will add a stub voucher, they've done this in the past and i can see them doing it again with the reaction of the community. I'm all for SDS trying new things, but its just shocking to me how so many people pull the "im not good enough" card, I coach 3 sports, i work in special education and i work as an assistant to our athletic director, i have very long week days and nights. If you want to make time to get a card, you'll find the time.
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You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
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@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
IF you spent stubs wisely and have worked towards the LS collection since launch you should have collections down, online modes shouldn't have to cater to casual, its competitive for a reason, I get selling for stubs is a big deal, I'm bummed about it as well, but going 12-0 should net you a gigantic profit, for how hard it is to achieve the reward should be special.
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
thats not even how the br program worked, you could only get the BR program reward once, you cant jsut get 100 points 3 times and grab 2 BR cards, that doesnt even make since, besides the prices get marked down so much to about 125-130k when everyone has the cards, thats basically one high end collection card. Most LS diamonds are cheap now other than the big dogs.
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in The Problem:
They are closer to 2K than EA. EA might actually be almost better than them at this point. At least on madden side. Not sure fifa.
why cause they make you actually earn things now ??
I would guess most people would need to play like 10 hours to complete the BR program. I would say that is more than earning. All for a non-sellable card. Bad move imo.
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
thats not even how the br program worked, you could only get the BR program reward once, you cant jsut get 100 points 3 times and grab 2 BR cards, that doesnt even make since, besides the prices get marked down so much to about 125-130k when everyone has the cards, thats basically one high end collection card. Most LS diamonds are cheap now other than the big dogs.
That's exactly what a guy in our Custom Leagues did. Griffey several times and finished the LS. I guess you should be SortaNice
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@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
IF you spent stubs wisely and have worked towards the LS collection since launch you should have collections down, online modes shouldn't have to cater to casual, its competitive for a reason, I get selling for stubs is a big deal, I'm bummed about it as well, but going 12-0 should net you a gigantic profit, for how hard it is to achieve the reward should be special.
OK so 12-0 should be a gigantic profit but the guys who put in the time for the program don't get any profit? That's sounds fair of my time
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
thats not even how the br program worked, you could only get the BR program reward once, you cant jsut get 100 points 3 times and grab 2 BR cards, that doesnt even make since, besides the prices get marked down so much to about 125-130k when everyone has the cards, thats basically one high end collection card. Most LS diamonds are cheap now other than the big dogs.
That's exactly what a guy in our Custom Leagues did. Griffey several times and finished the LS. I guess you should be SortaNice
Thats false. You can only earn the program pack once in BR. You can't do it multiple times unless you're playing on different accounts.
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@DemIsE4_XBL said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@GoTitans3_XBL said in The Problem:
They are closer to 2K than EA. EA might actually be almost better than them at this point. At least on madden side. Not sure fifa.
why cause they make you actually earn things now ??
I would guess most people would need to play like 10 hours to complete the BR program. I would say that is more than earning. All for a non-sellable card. Bad move imo.
would you rather the old way and no reward at all? You're still getting a choice at a very good card.
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
IF you spent stubs wisely and have worked towards the LS collection since launch you should have collections down, online modes shouldn't have to cater to casual, its competitive for a reason, I get selling for stubs is a big deal, I'm bummed about it as well, but going 12-0 should net you a gigantic profit, for how hard it is to achieve the reward should be special.
OK so 12-0 should be a gigantic profit but the guys who put in the time for the program don't get any profit? That's sounds fair of my time
Exactly. Make sure the .01% that can go 12-0 in 4-5 hours make 300k stubs but everyone else has to grind 10 hours+ for a non-sellable card.
With this, ranked and best cards hidden behind packs with less than a 1% chance of getting them, I don't think this is going to end to well for SDS. You may profit now but at what cost in the future?
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@DemIsE4_XBL said in The Problem:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in The Problem:
@SotaNice-_PSN said in The Problem:
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
you can still get the card for free tho by doing the same exact thin
@TripleH-4481_PSN said in The Problem:
You’re right and they have made getting those cards much more difficult but cutting back rewards, limiting sellable cards, and generally turning earning those cards into more of a job. Most of us play for fun and not just to do more work. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have to work for them just that making it 10x harder to get those cards unless you are amazing at the game is going to ruffle some feathers and make it not worth the time investment any longer.
You can get the same exact card for free??? By doing the same thing, its no different then like a boss choice pack, who are you going to pick? You're a tigers fan, you really want to sell that Veralnder? His card will play very well and be a top notch arm in the game.
He probably wants to get to 100 points 3 times in BR so he can sell two and keep one. Then finish the LS. That's what most people were doing in Set 1 with Griffey. How is that a hard concept to fathom? Or would you rather he spend $300 in real money just to get 450K in Monopoly Money?
IF you spent stubs wisely and have worked towards the LS collection since launch you should have collections down, online modes shouldn't have to cater to casual, its competitive for a reason, I get selling for stubs is a big deal, I'm bummed about it as well, but going 12-0 should net you a gigantic profit, for how hard it is to achieve the reward should be special.
OK so 12-0 should be a gigantic profit but the guys who put in the time for the program don't get any profit? That's sounds fair of my time
Exactly. Make sure the .01% that can go 12-0 in 4-5 hours make 300k stubs but everyone else has to grind 10 hours+ for a non-sellable card.
With this, ranked and best cards hidden behind packs with less than a 1% chance of getting them, I don't think this is going to end to well for SDS. You may profit now but at what cost in the future?
I could bet stub vouchers will be a thing, SDS tried something new and they have been very good this year on making changes.
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This is so much better. They really don’t need to be giving out so many participation trophies. There should be a real benefit to playing well. Last season the ws rewards had no real market value.
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Time to make the elites cry....I have played lots of pvp type games, from mmorpg's to fps games and they all have one thing in common....a massive elite troll problem. I have no problem with elite players getting rewarded, they should be, however what I do have a problem with is said players earning said rewards and using them to flex their fragile egos by using these elite rewards to destroy players less skilled then them. My solution...cue the elite crying here...when you reach a threshold, you are locked there. By that I mean, you reach WS (900) in a given season, you are lock to 900 and above. That means you cannot drop lower than 900 ever for the remainder of said season no matter how many games you lose, also the range of players you play can't be lower than 100 rating points lower. That to me would make for a much better online experience and less toxic experience for all.
Now I know there is a good portion of elites that stay were they belong, and for you I salute you, but there are just as many, if not more, that will deliberately drop to troll lesser skilled players to boost their fragile egos. This could alleviate some of the animosity between the haves and have nots.
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@the_dragon1912 said in The Problem:
If they would have done this when they originally made the programs there would not have been a problem, that I can agree on. Doing it this way, especially after some streamers made some boise about wanting this to happen, is blatantly disrespectful to the people that give SDS their paychecks
THIS THIS THIS. Don't implement something like this in the second (Ranked) and third (BR) programs of those modes.
