We need the 90's guys in the game already...
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@cubandoctor21 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
How could you possibly know that
I don't, at least for Sosa, Mcgwire and Palmeiro. That is 100% true for Bonds though. I just Think it's safe to assume the same for the others
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@cubandoctor21 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
How could you possibly know that
It's a matter of rights and when acquiring the right to their likeness some guys have a high price point cause of how the see them selves and their value in their own image. The 4 guys named all think very highly of themselves and what their image should be worth
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@cdnmoneymaker93_xbl said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@cubandoctor21 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
How could you possibly know that
It's a matter of rights and when acquiring the right to their likeness some guys have a high price point cause of how the see them selves and their value in their own image. The 4 guys named all think very highly of themselves and what their image should be worth
I can still see Palmeiro pointing his finger at the commission... what an [censored]
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Bo Jackson and Jose Canseco would be insane
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@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I want Derek Bell and Lance Berkman so I can make a true Killer B's Astros team from when I was a kid.
Also give me Glenn Davis.
It seems like Lance Berkman is underrated today. He doesnt get mentioned as often as others from that time period. He had some great seasons.
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@formallyforearms said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I want Derek Bell and Lance Berkman so I can make a true Killer B's Astros team from when I was a kid.
Also give me Glenn Davis.
It seems like Lance Berkman is underrated today. He doesnt get mentioned as often as others from that time period. He had some great seasons.
@formallyforearms said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I want Derek Bell and Lance Berkman so I can make a true Killer B's Astros team from when I was a kid.
Also give me Glenn Davis.
It seems like Lance Berkman is underrated today. He doesnt get mentioned as often as others from that time period. He had some great seasons.
Yeah, looking back he was good. At the time, I really didn't like him as much because I always felt he was just trying to hit homeruns. Every time I watched him hit, he was striking out or popping up.
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Being a Brewers fan, I watched a lot of Astros games (they were in the same division previously) and they were tough for a while. The talent just never amounted to much. Berkman, Biggio, Bagwell, Oswalt, Wagner off the top of my head. Pretty dirty. In 2004 they had the 3 Bs (Berkman, Biggio & Bagwell), Jeff Kent, Carlos Beltran, Brad Ausmus, Willy Taveras, Oswalt, Roger Clemens, Andy Pettite, Dotel, Brad Lidge.
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@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Also give me Glenn Davis.
Said no Orioles fan ever.
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I'd like a '93 Juan Gonzalez SS card and a Sig Julio Franco to go please.
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@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@formallyforearms said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I want Derek Bell and Lance Berkman so I can make a true Killer B's Astros team from when I was a kid.
Also give me Glenn Davis.
It seems like Lance Berkman is underrated today. He doesnt get mentioned as often as others from that time period. He had some great seasons.
@formallyforearms said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@schwizzle_nizzle said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I want Derek Bell and Lance Berkman so I can make a true Killer B's Astros team from when I was a kid.
Also give me Glenn Davis.
It seems like Lance Berkman is underrated today. He doesnt get mentioned as often as others from that time period. He had some great seasons.
Yeah, looking back he was good. At the time, I really didn't like him as much because I always felt he was just trying to hit homeruns. Every time I watched him hit, he was striking out or popping up.
Na, Berkman walked a ton. He was very patient. 100 walks a year level.. dude was an on base machine. Very underrated
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I would some more O’s 90s and 00s players to fill out my roster. Mussina, Palmeiro, Mora, Hoiles, Brady Anderson, and BJ Surhoff just to name a few. I’m still waiting for the Brady Anderson 50 HR season card.
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Give me Mark Grace
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I always wonder if they have a wink wink (or hidden rider) agreement with MLB not to touch the controversial guys. Hell Pete Rose would probably sign up for like 600 bucks. Can’t imagine that ALL of the steroid guys Sosa, Mac, Bonds, Canseco, Clemens, etc have numbers way too high. Seems more likely SDS/MLB are not inclined to sign them. Do we really think that Griffey doesn’t cost a fortune compared to what most of the rest would cost?
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@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
uh wrong... Bonds does but the rest don't. It's the mlbpa that keeps most of those guys out.
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@pats1124_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I always wonder if they have a wink wink (or hidden rider) agreement with MLB not to touch the controversial guys. Hell Pete Rose would probably sign up for like 600 bucks. Can’t imagine that ALL of the steroid guys Sosa, Mac, Bonds, Canseco, Clemens, etc have numbers way too high. Seems more likely SDS/MLB are not inclined to sign them. Do we really think that Griffey doesn’t cost a fortune compared to what most of the rest would cost?
mlbpa don't want those guys in... Only a few of the steroid guys are in the game... piazza(accused), braun, giambi are the only ones i can think of right off rip. Braun won't be when he retires and is no longer a part of the mlbpa.
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@bwheel1977_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
uh wrong... Bonds does but the rest don't. It's the mlbpa that keeps most of those guys out.
SDS negotiates with all retired players individually. They aren't in the MLBPA after they retire
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@bwheel1977_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@pats1124_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I always wonder if they have a wink wink (or hidden rider) agreement with MLB not to touch the controversial guys. Hell Pete Rose would probably sign up for like 600 bucks. Can’t imagine that ALL of the steroid guys Sosa, Mac, Bonds, Canseco, Clemens, etc have numbers way too high. Seems more likely SDS/MLB are not inclined to sign them. Do we really think that Griffey doesn’t cost a fortune compared to what most of the rest would cost?
mlbpa don't want those guys in... Only a few of the steroid guys are in the game... piazza(accused), braun, giambi are the only ones i can think of right off rip. Braun won't be when he retires and is no longer a part of the mlbpa.
Braun was caught and suspended for it. Giambi never was because it wasn't tested when he did, though he admitted to using during the Balco probe.
I think the theme here is if you are suspended for it (past 2003 basically), and are out of MLBPA (retired), you won't be in the game..
Save for steroid cover boys Bonds and Clemens. Even though their case is no different than Giambi -
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@bwheel1977_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
uh wrong... Bonds does but the rest don't. It's the mlbpa that keeps most of those guys out.
SDS negotiates with all retired players individually. They aren't in the MLBPA after they retire. It isn't the MLBPA keeping them out. It's themselves. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if SDS approached Curt Schilling in the past and said "hey would you like to be in our video game for _____ amount of money" and schilling replied "video games are for liberals you can shove it"
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@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@bwheel1977_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@the_dragon1912 said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
Steroids isn't why they aren't in the game. All those guys have extremely high egos and won't give up their rights. At least not for what SDS is willing to pay
uh wrong... Bonds does but the rest don't. It's the mlbpa that keeps most of those guys out.
SDS negotiates with all retired players individually. They aren't in the MLBPA after they retire
I think you misunderstand. The mlbpa has a say on who sds negotiates with and they don't want them to negotiate with the steroid guys.
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@nanthrax_1_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@bwheel1977_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
@pats1124_psn said in We need the 90's guys in the game already...:
I always wonder if they have a wink wink (or hidden rider) agreement with MLB not to touch the controversial guys. Hell Pete Rose would probably sign up for like 600 bucks. Can’t imagine that ALL of the steroid guys Sosa, Mac, Bonds, Canseco, Clemens, etc have numbers way too high. Seems more likely SDS/MLB are not inclined to sign them. Do we really think that Griffey doesn’t cost a fortune compared to what most of the rest would cost?
mlbpa don't want those guys in... Only a few of the steroid guys are in the game... piazza(accused), braun, giambi are the only ones i can think of right off rip. Braun won't be when he retires and is no longer a part of the mlbpa.
Braun was caught and suspended for it. Giambi never was because it wasn't tested when he did, though he admitted to using during the Balco probe.
I think the theme here is if you are suspended for it (past 2003 basically), and are out of MLBPA (retired), you won't be in the game..
Save for steroid cover boys Bonds and Clemens. Even though their case is no different than GiambiYeah that's why i don't think braun will ever be in the game when he retires unless they change their tune which i hope like heck they do.. No reason why clemens,sosa,mcgwire couldn't be in the game.. Bonds is a different animal as he literally shot himself in the foot on royalities like this when he got out of the mlbpa back in the day..
