Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
I don't see what racism has to do with Joe Carter playing 400 more games but had the same career WAR as Huff.
Nothing to do with Carter. Huff is an absolute monster internet troll spewing hate
Huff was an inferior player. Carter is a guy who the flawed WAR stat doesn’t capture how good he was. WAR aside whose career would rather have. Who would you draft on your team firsy
These kids only look at WAR and just don’t know baseball.
You want some french cries with that Whaaaburger?
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
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@SaveFarris said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
If WAR is so terrible, which stat should we use?
Please don't say RBIs...
Please don't say RBIs...I know some stats can produce some non-intuitive results, but any metric that concludes the Top 5 of all-time are Babe, Big Train, Cy, Barry, and Willie is probably doing something right.
You DONT use one stat you use many. That is what true statistical analysis does.
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
No he is correct and your use of sabermetrics as the ONLy measure of a player is a constant ignorant mistake you continually make. It doesn’t make you look knowledgeable it just shows that you don’t understand statistics. I am embarrassed for you.
I will say that Fred McGriff borderline HOF is better than Carter. McGriff was a very good player, Carter was just good.
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
You should leave the whole thing alone, Maverick is one of those people where, even if he isn't a troll, he's so self brainwashed that he's certain he's always going to be right. It's not your duty to inform him, you can't help someone who wants to be stupid
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
You should leave the whole thing alone, Maverick is one of those people where, even if he isn't a troll, he's so self brainwashed that he's certain he's always going to be right. It's not your duty to inform him, you can't help someone who wants to be stupid
I wasn’t even replying to maverick this time lol, despite it sounding exactly like something he would say.
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
You should leave the whole thing alone, Maverick is one of those people where, even if he isn't a troll, he's so self brainwashed that he's certain he's always going to be right. It's not your duty to inform him, you can't help someone who wants to be stupid
I wasn’t even replying to maverick this time lol, despite it sounding exactly like something he would say.
Oopsie I guess you're just gonna have to let me be toxic then
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
You should leave the whole thing alone, Maverick is one of those people where, even if he isn't a troll, he's so self brainwashed that he's certain he's always going to be right. It's not your duty to inform him, you can't help someone who wants to be stupid
I wasn’t even replying to maverick this time lol, despite it sounding exactly like something he would say.
Oopsie I guess you're just gonna have to let me be toxic then
I forgive you
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
You should leave the whole thing alone, Maverick is one of those people where, even if he isn't a troll, he's so self brainwashed that he's certain he's always going to be right. It's not your duty to inform him, you can't help someone who wants to be stupid
I wasn’t even replying to maverick this time lol, despite it sounding exactly like something he would say.
Oopsie I guess you're just gonna have to let me be toxic then
I forgive you
Thank you Tucker
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
Small point, but if Carter was 102 and league average was 100, then by definition he was above average, even if only by 2.
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
You should leave the whole thing alone, Maverick is one of those people where, even if he isn't a troll, he's so self brainwashed that he's certain he's always going to be right. It's not your duty to inform him, you can't help someone who wants to be stupid
I wasn’t even replying to maverick this time lol, despite it sounding exactly like something he would say.
Lol... I blocked the Seal dude because he seemed to only respond to my posts. Self brainwashed or educated. Dude can’t tell the difference
But his WAR is low. Dudes just don’t have common sense let alone understanding of real math
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There were numerous players that did not get a Sig card. Eric Davis, Matt Kemp, Jason Giambi, Brett Boone, Alan Trammel, Vida Blue, Kenny Lofton to name a few. Yet they saw fit to give Sig cards to players like Travis Hafner, Matt Carpenter, Rick Ankiel, Kerry Wood, Aubrey Huff??? Doesn’t make much sense.
All of the guys you mentioned that didn’t get an SS card already had 90+ overall cards though. Sure, they definitely could’ve still gotten one, other players with 90+ overall cards still got SS cards. I’m sure SDS just didn’t feel the need to give those guys juiced up cards, for one reason or another.
On the other hand, every guy you mentioned that did get an SS card either didn’t get any other diamond cards, or only had a lower diamond card (Wood).
I’m sure circumstance played a major role as well. I doubt Hafner gets an SS card if the All-Star Game isn’t in cleveland. Rick Ankiel is just a novelty. Aubrey Huff was just to give the Rays another SS card, since they lack legends. Carpenter because one of the head DD guys is a big Cardinals fan apparently lol
So maybe the Giambi, Davis, Lofton group should have gotten SS while the comically bad Huff, Hafner, Carpenter group should’ve got the seasonal cardOh and more importantly Sig Joe Carter. Even the most depraved fan cannot possibly think Racist Huff is more deserving
Still stuck on the Joe Carter Sig? LOL He will be remembered for his clutch not for his average MLB career.
You mean the Joe Carter that from 86 to 97 (12 seasons) was a sure bet/averaged 30 HRs/100 RBIs in an era that saw very few 40 HRs+ hitters? That "average" Joe Carter? He's basically a RH Fred McGriff. You have to put him in context of his era.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
From 86-97, Joe Carter had an average wRC+ of 102, with 100 being league average. So he was literally a league average offensive player.McGriff however, had a 139 average wRC+ from 87-98. Same era, same amount of seasons. McGriff was a far, far superior hitter.
Small point, but if Carter was 102 and league average was 100, then by definition he was above average, even if only by 2.
Oh boy, you got me
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The problem with comparing Carter to Huff is they played in two different eras of baseball. Huff played on a time when all offensive numbers across the board were increased. I'm not saying Carter was better, but look at Huffs stats compared to his contemporaries and Carters stats compared to his contemporaries, then tell me how much better Huff is?
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@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
The problem with comparing Carter to Huff is they played in two different eras of baseball. Huff played on a time when all offensive numbers across the board were increased. I'm not saying Carter was better, but look at Huffs stats compared to his contemporaries and Carters stats compared to his contemporaries, then tell me how much better Huff is?
Huff has a career 111 wRC+. Carter has a career 102 wRC+.
Huff had four 130+ wRC+ seasons, with one being 144. Carter never had a 130 season, and only had 120 three times, his highest being 125.
Using wRC+, we can see that Huff was better compared to the league average when he played, than Carter was to the league average when he played.
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@DriveByTrucker17 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
The problem with comparing Carter to Huff is they played in two different eras of baseball. Huff played on a time when all offensive numbers across the board were increased. I'm not saying Carter was better, but look at Huffs stats compared to his contemporaries and Carters stats compared to his contemporaries, then tell me how much better Huff is?
Huff has a career 111 wRC+. Carter has a career 102 wRC+.
Huff had four 130+ wRC+ seasons, with one being 144. Carter never had a 130 season, and only had 120 three times, his highest being 125.
Using wRC+, we can see that Huff was better compared to the league average when he played, than Carter was to the league average when he played.
Still trying to understand wRC+ does that take expansion into account?
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@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
The problem with comparing Carter to Huff is they played in two different eras of baseball. Huff played on a time when all offensive numbers across the board were increased. I'm not saying Carter was better, but look at Huffs stats compared to his contemporaries and Carters stats compared to his contemporaries, then tell me how much better Huff is?
Huff has a career 111 wRC+. Carter has a career 102 wRC+.
Huff had four 130+ wRC+ seasons, with one being 144. Carter never had a 130 season, and only had 120 three times, his highest being 125.
Using wRC+, we can see that Huff was better compared to the league average when he played, than Carter was to the league average when he played.
Still trying to understand wRC+ does that take expansion into account?
It’s easier if you just read this.
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/10/30/3567746/sabermetrics-101-wrc -
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
The problem with comparing Carter to Huff is they played in two different eras of baseball. Huff played on a time when all offensive numbers across the board were increased. I'm not saying Carter was better, but look at Huffs stats compared to his contemporaries and Carters stats compared to his contemporaries, then tell me how much better Huff is?
Huff has a career 111 wRC+. Carter has a career 102 wRC+.
Huff had four 130+ wRC+ seasons, with one being 144. Carter never had a 130 season, and only had 120 three times, his highest being 125.
Using wRC+, we can see that Huff was better compared to the league average when he played, than Carter was to the league average when he played.
Still trying to understand wRC+ does that take expansion into account?
It’s easier if you just read this.
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/10/30/3567746/sabermetrics-101-wrc@DriveByTrucker17 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@DriveByTrucker17 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
@nflman2033 said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
The problem with comparing Carter to Huff is they played in two different eras of baseball. Huff played on a time when all offensive numbers across the board were increased. I'm not saying Carter was better, but look at Huffs stats compared to his contemporaries and Carters stats compared to his contemporaries, then tell me how much better Huff is?
Huff has a career 111 wRC+. Carter has a career 102 wRC+.
Huff had four 130+ wRC+ seasons, with one being 144. Carter never had a 130 season, and only had 120 three times, his highest being 125.
Using wRC+, we can see that Huff was better compared to the league average when he played, than Carter was to the league average when he played.
Still trying to understand wRC+ does that take expansion into account?
It’s easier if you just read this.
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/10/30/3567746/sabermetrics-101-wrcI get it. Totally counter intuitive to what I saw watching both eras, Carter was an all star popular player who teams and fans loved. Huff was solid player who played at a time when there was a lot of far better players.
Which you can see by his 0 all star appearances vs Carter who was a 5 time all star. See I see the two players having the same SLG but Huff being in an offensive era as being worse. But since Carter didnt walk as much as Huff he looks way less valuable. Is SLG an end all be all stat, no, but I think you should look at all stats. I am old I am never going to believe that there is any one stat that says a guy is a good or bad player. It's clear from our discussion that you believe that.
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That’s why wRC+ is the better stat. It tells us who is truly the better hitter. Base stats don’t take enough factors into account.
And no, I don’t believe in just using wRC+.
OPS and OPS+ both have a lot of value as well.Also, all star appearances tell nothing about who is the better hitter. Just like RBI tells nothing about a hitters ability.
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It's always funny when people make all-encompassing statements like "whoa X was way better than Y but never saw Y play and rely on stats. I know nerds, some/most of which I respect have made their cases for why this or that stat is overvalued, and yes I understand that RBIs is dependant on circumstances, but there's a reason why you put X in the 3rd/4th spot in the lineup and not 7th. Take any stat and I can give you a for and counter for each one. I could tell, for example, with the way the game is played now and the Ks for hitters being irrelevant because a stathead said so, yet this ignores a basic principle of baseball: if the ball is hit, there are a gazillion probabilities.
And I did mention you have to use the era in context. Aubrey Huffs in his era are a dime a dozen; Joe Carters were not. Howard Johnson won the NL HR title in 1991 for crying out loud! Cecil Fielder was mind boggling back then. Parks were big, the juicers were fewer, the ball wasn't as lively. To boil it down to a single metric is fun for arguments on forums but not definitive by any means. But hey, it's a Twitter world where it's one or the other, what do I know.
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@yankblan said in Aaron Judge did not get a single flashback in MLB 19:
It's always funny when people make all-encompassing statements like "whoa X was way better than Y but never saw Y play and rely on stats. I know nerds, some/most of which I respect have made their cases for why this or that stat is overvalued, and yes I understand that RBIs is dependant on circumstances, but there's a reason why you put X in the 3rd/4th spot in the lineup and not 7th. Take any stat and I can give you a for and counter for each one. I could tell, for example, with the way the game is played now and the Ks for hitters being irrelevant because a stathead said so, yet this ignores a basic principle of baseball: if the ball is hit, there are a gazillion probabilities.
And I did mention you have to use the era in context. Aubrey Huffs in his era are a dime a dozen; Joe Carters were not. Howard Johnson won the NL HR title in 1991 for crying out loud! Cecil Fielder was mind boggling back then. Parks were big, the juicers were fewer, the ball wasn't as lively. To boil it down to a single metric is fun for arguments on forums but not definitive by any means. But hey, it's a Twitter world where it's one or the other, what do I know.
Wrc+ adjusts for era with your said "dime a dozen" hitters, Joe Carter wasn't special in his time, also players are hit based on stats that aren't rbis and they happen to get more opportunities from hitting where they are
Your favorite team's gm doesn't use rbis, it's not a good stat