Finally my horrific pack luck has changed. Bite the bullet and bought a beach pack expecting to just choose Loften....and boom I'm facing Hotnsby, Robert's and Ryan.....naturally took Hornsby.....irony I sold Cards Musial seconds earlier just to replace with another redbird.....I think him and grenk have been my only high pulls. Late night luck I suppose. No way I try with my second one...I'll save those stubs there