Where are the diamonds in packs ???
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I've pulled more diamonds at this point in the game (9 LS and 3 Coby Mayo Pipeline) than i have since DD became a thing.
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I guess we need another forum lesson on how statistics work again.
Each pack has a 1:50 odds. Each pack opening is an independent event and therefore no other amount of pack openings affect the odds of each given pack. This means that you are not guaranteed a pack after opening 50 or even 150 packs. Opening 50 packs has a 36.42% chance of seeing a diamond pulled. So, if 3 people each opened up 50 packs each, chances are only 1 of them would actually see a diamond. Each pack you only have a 1.961% chance of seeing a diamond and a 98.039% chance of not seeing a diamond. These are your chances for each and every pack you open regardless of how many packs you have opened in the past.
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- No one asked for this - his complaint is still valid. He's very unlucky.
- You flipped the odds. Its's a 63.6% chance of seeing a diamond.
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@TubaTim90 I wasn't going to wait for someone to ask me! No, his complaint is not valid, the math proves his complaint is worth less than what your opinion matters to me (which is somewhere between zero and zero). Also, I did not flip the odds (the odds are 1:50) and I didn't flip the probability (0.3642) nor the percentage (36.42%). Regardless every pack has less than 2% chance regardless of how many packs he opens because each pack is an independent event and the odds never change with the number of pack openings.
His chance of pulling a diamond on pack number 150 after getting 149 packs without a diamond is still less than 2%.
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I feel like I shouldn't complain about packs as I pulled trout in a free HL pack but I am forever thankful for SDS making packs as bad as they are because they remind me not to spend stubs on packs lol
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Ever since I started playing this game when it came to Xbox I've never pulled a high or mid diamond at the beginning of the year. I've only pulled them when the game is dying out at the end of the season. You aren't the only one with the horrible luck.
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I also find it funny that so many people whine about the number of diamonds they pull. That is funny to me because they want the se diamonds because they are "worth a lot". However, if the probability of pulling diamonds were higher, the value would go way down because everyone would have these diamonds which would also make everything else worthless. So many people on here have expectations that they are entitled to pulling diamonds is such nonsense, but we have so many people who want a participation trophy just for whining.
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@TubaTim90 said in Where are the diamonds in packs ???:
You flipped the odds. Its's a 63.6% chance of seeing a diamond.
True, according to Gemini...
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I can't complain, during early access I pulled Chris Sale, Judge, Kyle Tucker, Paul Skenes twice, and couple others I am forgetting. Once the main launch hit my luck has dried up, but I have been very lucky.
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@dap1234567890 I wasn’t complaining I was asking what other people’s thoughts were .
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@ArGenTin32 seems that way .
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I've opened 90 packs and gotten 1 diamond. 85 Logan Gilbert.
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So I just noticed the option to see drop rates online in the store . And forget the odds . The percentages for players are eye opening .
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@TPRwell love him but he’s not valued in this game like others . I bought him outright for like 4k
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@xbigdaddy42x I believe you. This time of year, every year, someone makes this post (and usually are whining) thinking they deserve a diamond for every 50 packs. My original post wasn't meant to single you out, but I was trying to make the statement in general because there are a lot of people who feel entitled to being able to pack a diamond. Someone else said you were complaining and I responded to that, but shouldn't have said you were complaining because that person doesn't speak for you. Standard packs have horrible odds (1:50) with a very low probability of getting a diamond (0.01961) and it is the same regardless the number of packs one has opened. For most people a dry spell does feel like the odds aren't the way SDS says it is. However, the math proves that is a feeling and not necessarily a fact. This feeling is normal when after opening 153 packs the math says that one would have had a 95% chance of having a diamond. However, there is a lot more to it than just the number of packs and the probability with those numbers. I believe these packs contents are generated upon receipt of the pack. If one had received 150 packs in a row where no one else received a pack in the middle of those 150, then that probability should be accurate. However, when looking at the number of players of the game receiving packs, one is not going to receive 150 packs generated in a row. So, people are receiving a sample of 150 of a huge population of packs. This will have a huge impact on the probability of receiving a diamond in a sample of drawn packs. This is where luck weighs heavily into the number of diamonds draw from a sample of 150 packs. I hope you have better luck!
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Yea dude, you literally have the odds backwards. Sorry to break it to you.
It’s easy to try to act smart and drop statistics, until you realize you actually don’t know anything.
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To answer the question: typically in the rightmost card.
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i finally got my first one today (mookie)
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@TubaTim90 said in Where are the diamonds in packs ???:
Yea dude, you literally have the odds backwards. Sorry to break it to you.
It’s easy to try to act smart and drop statistics, until you realize you actually don’t know anything.
Everything he said is correct except the rate. He switched that (the percent he gave, 36ish, is the chance of not seeing a single diamond in 50 packs). But to say he doesn’t know anything is disingenuous. The reality of pack luck, and people’s misunderstanding of it, are confusing for a lot of people. He explained it very well.
Long story short, the big take away for being whining about pack rates is this:
They haven’t changed. You’re just experiencing bad luck. Everyone has those strings of good/bad luck. Don’t use luck to make decisions, though. Opening 50 packs without a diamond doesn’t mean your chances of getting one next time are better. (and vice versa). That’s the gamblers fallacy, and many people’s lives have been ruined with this thought process.
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Diamond odds are exactly what they are stated and haven’t changed from previous games. Some are lucky and some are not. Some people have pulled multiple Ohtanis. You not pulling any diamonds is not statistically significant the grand scheme of the odds. If it was easier to pull diamonds the cards would all just be quick sell and no one would care about them.
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