I hate…
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The state the game is in (online)…I hate that we are at this point…I hate the direction DD is headed…I hate that we as a community have been and will be ignored…I LOVE BASEBALL!!!.
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Specifically, what are you talking about?
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@Possum80_MLBTS said in I hate…:
Specifically, what are you talking about?
DD, that is why I posted in the DD topics, Gameplay has already been touched on many times.Structuring of the programs is awful and pushes Micro Transactions, this META bullsh*t when it comes to online play, the lazy add on’s every year (supercharged), the refusal to accept that going beyond the 99 attribute cap has effected and hurt online play. I really don’t think there is enough room for me to explain in detail all the thing’s I have witnessed deteriorate and turn this game into what it is today. Everyone deserves The Show that we had in previous years, they deserve the gameplay and joy that some of us were lucky enough to experience in the past. This year and even last year were not the game we have come to love, and PS/veterans of this series will tell you that the game has gone drastically downhill since ‘17, Especially online.
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I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
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@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
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@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
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@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
If sds has stayed with this kind of gameplay this long, it tells me their metrics they look at and their revenue says it's the best for them
It works for every sports game, Madden and FIFA don't make EA billions because they are good games.
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
That’s an issue that I don’t have enough beers to dive into TBH, but at least we can agree that this is not the DD the majority of us came to know and love.
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
If sds has stayed with this kind of gameplay this long, it tells me their metrics they look at and their revenue says it's the best for them
It works for every sports game, Madden and FIFA don't make EA billions because they are good games.
Madden and Fifa make EA millions because they are predatory, they set a META, much like SDS has and prey on it. But why does SDS have to be like that? They have survived off of the fact that they aren’t predatory in the past, this year show’s that they are headed in the same direction as EA. Why is it that a low budget game like Vigor can offer me a legacy battlepass but a studio supported by Sony and paid by Nintendo and Microsoft can’t offer me a legacy style program?. Why is it that SDS is marching in line with EA when they don’t have to? How as a community have we let it get to this point?.
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@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
If sds has stayed with this kind of gameplay this long, it tells me their metrics they look at and their revenue says it's the best for them
It works for every sports game, Madden and FIFA don't make EA billions because they are good games.
Madden and Fifa make EA millions because they are predatory, they set a META, much like SDS has and prey on it. But why does SDS have to be like that? They have survived off of the fact that they aren’t predatory in the past, this year show’s that they are headed in the same direction as EA. Why is it that a low budget game like Vigor can offer me a legacy battlepass but a studio supported by Sony and paid by Nintendo and Microsoft can’t offer me a legacy style program?. Why is it that SDS is marching in line with EA when they don’t have to? How as a community have we let it get to this point?.
If they want to make more money they have to, and they are a business. Any sports game studio in a major franchise would have to be silly not to follow the Madden model.
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
If sds has stayed with this kind of gameplay this long, it tells me their metrics they look at and their revenue says it's the best for them
It works for every sports game, Madden and FIFA don't make EA billions because they are good games.
Madden and Fifa make EA millions because they are predatory, they set a META, much like SDS has and prey on it. But why does SDS have to be like that? They have survived off of the fact that they aren’t predatory in the past, this year show’s that they are headed in the same direction as EA. Why is it that a low budget game like Vigor can offer me a legacy battlepass but a studio supported by Sony and paid by Nintendo and Microsoft can’t offer me a legacy style program?. Why is it that SDS is marching in line with EA when they don’t have to? How as a community have we let it get to this point?.
If they want to make more money they have to, and they are a business. Any sports game studio in a major franchise would have to be silly not to follow the Madden model.
But they made money without following the Madden model, a lot of the past and present player base came to the game because it wasn’t the Madden model. Now that they have this player base they are switching to the Madden model and it’s really a bait and switch, which to most knowledgeable consumers isn’t acceptable.
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@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
If sds has stayed with this kind of gameplay this long, it tells me their metrics they look at and their revenue says it's the best for them
It works for every sports game, Madden and FIFA don't make EA billions because they are good games.
Madden and Fifa make EA millions because they are predatory, they set a META, much like SDS has and prey on it. But why does SDS have to be like that? They have survived off of the fact that they aren’t predatory in the past, this year show’s that they are headed in the same direction as EA. Why is it that a low budget game like Vigor can offer me a legacy battlepass but a studio supported by Sony and paid by Nintendo and Microsoft can’t offer me a legacy style program?. Why is it that SDS is marching in line with EA when they don’t have to? How as a community have we let it get to this point?.
If they want to make more money they have to, and they are a business. Any sports game studio in a major franchise would have to be silly not to follow the Madden model.
But they made money without following the madden model, a lot of the past and present player base came to the game because it wasn’t the madden model. Now that they have this player base they are switching to the Madden model and it’s really a bait and switch, which to most knowledgeable consumers isn’t acceptable.
They made money yes, but they can make more on the Madden model. Also when it comes to gaming, especially sports games, there aren't many "knowledgeable" consumers, idk if you watch youtube but Angryjoeshow has been railing on sports gamers for years on accepting mediocrity.
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Unfortunately they have taken to the model of Player Retension which brings them the most money. Playing as intended ring a bell? It’s not about their behind the scenes stats. I do agree with you that 16 & 17 were the best gameplay. Trading posts with the devils advocate will do nothing more than frustrate you. Out
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
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@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I disagree that it would keep pushing them to improve, games like this are designed for a reason and fewer people then you think are interested in "getting good"
The gameplay in ‘16 and especially’17 pushed me to become a better player, I went from AS in ‘16 to a WS player in ‘17. If they are not willing to improve than that just proves SDS catered to a specific player base and continues too. We will never know though because unfortunately none of these players will ever get to experience gameplay where their pitcher can’t throw 102 for 12 innings or have a hitter with a PCI smaller than the continent of North America. Look I make the best out of this game every year, even if it means spending a lot of my time offline on Franchise mode, but you can’t tell me as a Vet of the franchise that the gameplay especially in DD hasn’t gone downhill.
I'm not telling you it hasn't gone downhill. I'm telling you the reality, and using yourself as an example doesn't work because todays games aren't like that and most gamers aren't like that.
If sds has stayed with this kind of gameplay this long, it tells me their metrics they look at and their revenue says it's the best for them
It works for every sports game, Madden and FIFA don't make EA billions because they are good games.
Madden and Fifa make EA millions because they are predatory, they set a META, much like SDS has and prey on it. But why does SDS have to be like that? They have survived off of the fact that they aren’t predatory in the past, this year show’s that they are headed in the same direction as EA. Why is it that a low budget game like Vigor can offer me a legacy battlepass but a studio supported by Sony and paid by Nintendo and Microsoft can’t offer me a legacy style program?. Why is it that SDS is marching in line with EA when they don’t have to? How as a community have we let it get to this point?.
If they want to make more money they have to, and they are a business. Any sports game studio in a major franchise would have to be silly not to follow the Madden model.
But they made money without following the madden model, a lot of the past and present player base came to the game because it wasn’t the madden model. Now that they have this player base they are switching to the Madden model and it’s really a bait and switch, which to most knowledgeable consumers isn’t acceptable.
They made money yes, but they can make more on the Madden model. Also when it comes to gaming, especially sports games, there aren't many "knowledgeable" consumers, idk if you watch youtube but Angryjoeshow has been railing on sports gamers for years on accepting mediocrity.
And I am with him, we as a community have allowed this to happen. We as consumers can make change but we don’t e.g. Microsoft users and the xbox live price hike.
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@TEXAS10PT_PSN said in I hate…:
Unfortunately they have taken to the model of Player Retension which brings them the most money. Playing as intended ring a bell? It’s not about their behind the scenes stats. I do agree with you that 16 & 17 were the best gameplay. Trading posts with the devils advocate will do nothing more than frustrate you. Out
I understand the player retention side of it, they were retaining players based on previous models, this years model is more micro transaction oriented, whats next year going to look like? How far away are we from being able to buy stubs and not just packs? Where do we as the community draw the line with SDS?
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It is really a shame what the game has turned into with new generation consoles. I get you brother but I think this is a glimpse of things to come. There needs to be competition because people will still buy this game despite its shortcomings because there is no other baseball game. RBI doesn’t really count either.
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@JEEZY-E_MLBTS said in I hate…:
@eatyum_PSN said in I hate…:
I don't hate it, I don't think it's bad. It's just mediocre.
I think that’s what I hate about it the most!…we shouldn’t be getting mediocre at this point!.
Hot and probably unpopular take.
But if you take 17 gameplay and slap it on this game, there would still be loud bellyaching from everyone.
Thats because you have 100+ attributes messing with the RNG, ‘17 gameplay without 100+ attributes would annoy the new players at first, but like the rest of us the enjoyment from the gameplay would push them to continue to improve. W.E this is that they are throwing out as DD and gameplay is not The Show, it’s a horrible attempt to attract and hook casual’s, while making money at the same time.
I love the game and the content. Not a huge fan of having to grind against the cpu to get some of the cards, but I also don’t have a better idea for how the community can earn cards otherwise. I think it’s become more and more popular to [censored] on the game online, but in my opinion, it’s the best sports game on the market. I don’t get all the YFK clones out here complaining. A lot of the complaints are ridiculous. They didn’t super charge enough cards? Who tf cares? There’s two “99” Clemente cards - 1 locked behind a collection, the other available to everyone in a program released for Roberto Clemente Day - we’re crying about that? There are too many juiced cards, so everyone isn’t using the same 8 cards? I don’t see any of this as a bad thing. The biggest issues I have with this game is the toxic community- people trying to find every exploit and every way to be annoying in online matches and then running here or to twitter every time they lose and crying about the RNG.
