If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@thaghettoblasta said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
How would turning on Balks stop R2? The balk is called on a pitcher, so wouldn't that just cause "The Pitcher" to balk and allow the base runners to move up a base (if any)?
Turning on balks would allow SDS to remove R2 from delaying the pitch without allowing people to throw 10 pitches in 10 seconds.
IMO people will just find a way to exploit balks if they do that. It's a no win situation really.
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@thaghettoblasta said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@thaghettoblasta said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
How would turning on Balks stop R2? The balk is called on a pitcher, so wouldn't that just cause "The Pitcher" to balk and allow the base runners to move up a base (if any)?
Turning on balks would allow SDS to remove R2 from delaying the pitch without allowing people to throw 10 pitches in 10 seconds.
IMO people will just find a way to exploit balks if they do that. It's a no win situation really.
That can be said about basically any aspect of any online game. If you can’t think of how balks could be exploited then it’s at least a better option than something that is already being exploited
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Yeah I dont understand how turning on balks would effect R2 at all. These guys arent using R2 for anything more than to disrupt pitching. R2 suppose to show previous pitches, and pitch confidence and such. But what maybe 2% of people who hit R2 use it for that? And they just hold it to take a peak every now and then not tap it 3 random times every AB. There are next to no R2 abusers using it to slow down pitching, that is a fact.
But like many others have mentioned. I use PP pitching and it hasnt been an issue all year for me, even though probably about 70% of my opponents have done the R2 tap every AB. The notification they give us now works wonders.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@thaghettoblasta said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
How would turning on Balks stop R2? The balk is called on a pitcher, so wouldn't that just cause "The Pitcher" to balk and allow the base runners to move up a base (if any)?
Turning on balks would allow SDS to remove R2 from delaying the pitch without allowing people to throw 10 pitches in 10 seconds.
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@chuckclc_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
Yeah I dont understand how turning on balks would effect R2 at all. These guys arent using R2 for anything more than to disrupt pitching. R2 suppose to show previous pitches, and pitch confidence and such. But what maybe 2% of people who hit R2 use it for that? And they just hold it to take a peak every now and then not tap it 3 random times every AB. There are next to no R2 abusers using it to slow down pitching, that is a fact.
But like many others have mentioned. I use PP pitching and it hasnt been an issue all year for me, even though probably about 70% of my opponents have done the R2 tap every AB. The notification they give us now works wonders.
Simple. Turn on balks. Disable R2.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@chuckclc_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
Yeah I dont understand how turning on balks would effect R2 at all. These guys arent using R2 for anything more than to disrupt pitching. R2 suppose to show previous pitches, and pitch confidence and such. But what maybe 2% of people who hit R2 use it for that? And they just hold it to take a peak every now and then not tap it 3 random times every AB. There are next to no R2 abusers using it to slow down pitching, that is a fact.
But like many others have mentioned. I use PP pitching and it hasnt been an issue all year for me, even though probably about 70% of my opponents have done the R2 tap every AB. The notification they give us now works wonders.
Simple. Turn on balks. Disable R2.
The point people are making is they arent related. Taking out one feature and adding a new feature helps nothing. People wanting pitching slowed down arent the issue. Its people who are abusing R2 by tapping randomly every AB. So why take away being able to see pitch info for guys who want to use that stuff, (honestly makes no sense to me, players cannot do that in real life).
If you believe people that say, "slow sown your pitching and R2 wouldnt be an issue" then you are very gullible lol. The R2 abusers arent doing that because of how fast you are pitching. Or they wouldnt do it starting with your first batter, and darn sure wouldnt be tapping it multiple times an AB at random times.
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But that is why it’s there and why SDS hasn’t taken it out yet. Turning on balks takes out that reason for R2 to be in the game at all. I’m well aware many people don’t use it for what it’s intended.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
But that is why it’s there and why SDS hasn’t taken it out yet. Turning on balks takes out that reason for R2 to be in the game at all. I’m well aware many people don’t use it for what it’s intended.
I dont think you are understanding what I am saying. How does turning on balks make it were a feature that allows you to see pitch confidence and energy and previous pitch locations is no longer needed?
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Balks aren’t the answer, and no way they’ll completely remove R2 to add balks. You think SDS is capable of programming balks to be consistent and without any long-term issues? Look at how well they’re doing with check swings.
They need to remove R2 all together, there’s plenty of room on the screen to add a pitch history window, or add it to the pause screen. Allow batters 2-3 timeouts per AB instead of the one, that way you can slow down what people think are quick pitching, or add a 1-2 second delay between pitches.
Adding balks will significantly extend the time it takes to play a game, a lot of people don’t want to take 1+ hr to play a game. There’s a balance here somewhere, but it’s definitely not adding balks and removing R2.
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@savagesteve74 said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
You think SDS is capable of programming balks to be consistent and without any long-term issues? Look at how well they’re doing with check swings.
Hey, but according to some they can implement complicated coding that knows when to turn down the exit velo on your good swings, and make your guys make errors in key situations, or make you hang pitches, and turn this stuff off and on mid game so lesser opponents can make a comeback lol.
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@chuckclc_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
But that is why it’s there and why SDS hasn’t taken it out yet. Turning on balks takes out that reason for R2 to be in the game at all. I’m well aware many people don’t use it for what it’s intended.
I dont think you are understanding what I am saying. How does turning on balks make it were a feature that allows you to see pitch confidence and energy and previous pitch locations is no longer needed?
That’s only part of why R2 exists. The other part it to essentially “pause” the game
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@savagesteve74 said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
Balks aren’t the answer, and no way they’ll completely remove R2 to add balks. You think SDS is capable of programming balks to be consistent and without any long-term issues? Look at how well they’re doing with check swings.
They need to remove R2 all together, there’s plenty of room on the screen to add a pitch history window, or add it to the pause screen. Allow batters 2-3 timeouts per AB instead of the one, that way you can slow down what people think are quick pitching, or add a 1-2 second delay between pitches.
Adding balks will significantly extend the time it takes to play a game, a lot of people don’t want to take 1+ hr to play a game. There’s a balance here somewhere, but it’s definitely not adding balks and removing R2.
Yeah any solution that removes R2 and still prevents people from speed pitching I’m down with. 1-2 second delay would be great.
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R2 should only prevent pitching until the pitcher comes set. Once a pitcher comes set, R2 shouldn't prevent the pitcher from pitching. This would still give people the ability to stop people from quick pitching, but people wouldn't be able to grief and mess with the pitchers timing to attempt to get meatballs.
SDS should also implement a accuracy penalty if you pitch before the pitcher comes set.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
But that is why it’s there and why SDS hasn’t taken it out yet. Turning on balks takes out that reason for R2 to be in the game at all. I’m well aware many people don’t use it for what it’s intended.
Put it this way. If you were allowed to force a balk (which turning this function on would do) idiots would stop their pitch in the middle of every single at bat and you would wish R2 was back in the game.
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@thaghettoblasta said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
But that is why it’s there and why SDS hasn’t taken it out yet. Turning on balks takes out that reason for R2 to be in the game at all. I’m well aware many people don’t use it for what it’s intended.
Put it this way. If you were allowed to force a balk (which turning this function on would do) idiots would stop their pitch in the middle of every single at bat and you would wish R2 was back in the game.
How would they be able to force a balk? I honestly don’t care about R2 at all. I don’t use it and when people use it on me it doesn’t bother me. I’m just saying there has to be a way for people to slowdown the pitches incoming. I can handle 10 pitches in 10 seconds but for a casual player that’s not a fun time.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@thaghettoblasta said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
But that is why it’s there and why SDS hasn’t taken it out yet. Turning on balks takes out that reason for R2 to be in the game at all. I’m well aware many people don’t use it for what it’s intended.
Put it this way. If you were allowed to force a balk (which turning this function on would do) idiots would stop their pitch in the middle of every single at bat and you would wish R2 was back in the game.
How would they be able to force a balk? I honestly don’t care about R2 at all. I don’t use it and when people use it on me it doesn’t bother me. I’m just saying there has to be a way for people to slowdown the pitches incoming. I can handle 10 pitches in 10 seconds but for a casual player that’s not a fun time.
That part I get. Speed pitching IRL does exist, but not to the extent that a pitcher IRL doesn't have a ball put in hand immediately after throwing. R2 is the only way to stop it. If guys are going to pitch so fast to the point where I can't call a timeout, you bet I'm gonna R2 that person.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
1-2 second delay would be great.
See I wouldnt like that as a hitter. As a hitter I need to be in rhythm. It is a pitchers job to disrupt the hitters rhythm. Guys that pitch as soon as they can one right after another are best for getting in a rhythm. Feels like batting practice. As a hitter I dont want time to think about things too much. That is never good. That helps a pitcher. When I am pitching I take a different amount of time between every pitch no matter if I know what I am gonna do next or not.
But these things arent an issue right now. The only issue is guys tapping R2 over and over when you are pitching. Noone cares if someone hold down R2 to at the beginning of a pitch and then lets go. It is the abusers that are bad.
@agent512_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
SDS should also implement a accuracy penalty if you pitch before the pitcher comes set.
I am pretty sure that is already a thing. Another reason I love when pitchers keep my hitters in rhythm by pitching fast. They arent gonna be as effective.
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Not everyone wants to play at that kind of pace though and it’s insanely unrealistic.
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@genopolanco_psn said in If you hit R2 Three Times Before EVERY PITCH…..:
Not everyone wants to play at that kind of pace though and it’s insanely unrealistic.
True, and to be clear I would have no problem with R2 being removed all together. I literally never use it. I dont look at that info and if I do there are other ways. I always have more than 3 min in pause time left by end of game so I have no problem pausing and looking at that info there rather than using R2 mid game. I was just trying to make an argument for the guys that legitimately do look at that info and arent cheesing. But it is whatever. the fact that we have to talk in such great lengths about what to do is probably why nothing will be done. And if there is something done just as many people will be mad about whatever they do as are mad now.
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My issue is that sometimes when they time the R2 right when I start my windup. I see the icon pop up, and let go of the stick with PP pitching, and then that motion registers when they quickly release R2 and now I throw a wild pitch.
