Which matters the most
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I'm sure each one of these strategies are very very important in this game. But I'm getting mixed results and wondered which ones you all think are really important.
I come from a baseball background. Played 4 years in high school and am a huge fan and fantasy baseballer. Also a commissioner. I understand the game fairly well. Would never say this translates to how MLB the Show understands baseball though.
So, first...does it matter if you warm up a pitcher? I've just brought them in cold to close 'cause, on occasion, I forgot. Hernandez who is a 60 something rated pitcher just struck out the top of the A's order. Game before in the same conditions I brought in a very warm Matt Barnes to close and he got ripped for 3 runs and the loss. So, it appears it doesn't matter?
Leading off. This is one I really was cognizant of. Felt it wouldn't be in the game if it wasn't important. Well, my best base stealer without a lead stole a base against Murphy on a high fast ball. Looked like Murphy was constipated when he tried to come out of the crouch. Next game under similar circumstances with same base runner with a 2 bump lead on a change-up gets thrown out by what looked like 6 feet by Murphy. So, it appears it doesn't matter.
Left-righty advantage. Again, I thought it might be important to look at my opponent's rating against pitching hand before bringing in a reliever. This also really doesn't seem to play out consistently. I know in baseball it doesn't always, but it seems in this game it's really pretty arbitrary.
I really like this game, but if strategies like this really don't come into play it takes a whole dimension out of the approach. Don't really want to waste my time getting a big lead when I could get thrown out...but taking the lead doesn't make any difference in the result of an attempted steal.
Or do they just matter when an event is predetermined to happen in a game. Any help is appreciated.
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Dang it...I forgot one of the most important ones. Pitcher energy level. I've went against pitchers that seem to get stronger once they are in the red and completely empty. Especially if it's a "pressure" situation. Conversely, I've gotten the alerts saying "pitchers getting tired" and pitched a couple more innings with no damage. I'm sure that's because some pitchers are rated to be great under pressure, huh?
But, on the other hand (I've got 5 fingers..joking) I see the reverse as well. Anyone have a rule of "thumb"?
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Oh yeah, this one. Bunting ability. This one just seems to be almost pointless. I've watched the best bunters pop the drag right up in the air. And had power hitters with virtually no bunting ability pinch it down the line for a base-hit on a sacrifice.
Thoughts?
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You brought up several issues, but I’ll address a few in the pitching category as I see it. Others can and I’m sure will tell me I’m wrong.
The pitching stats and energy 100% are in play in both online and offline play. As the game goes on, you can even notice the pci on your end getting bigger as the other player’s energy goes down.
With that, though, confidence is a huge factor for your pitcher and confidence can be gained and lost on individual pitches. So, let’s say you square up a ball on a pitch that the pitcher has high confidence in, your results are going to generally be less stellar than if you square up (or even got close to) a pitch that I have low confidence in. That’s why that down and away breaking ball will some times get pulled on an early swing and go 400 feet, but other times that feel the exact same will cause it to be a lazy popup to left field.
As for lefty/lefty matchups, the stats can affect the likelihood of hard hits and things like that. But, in general, if the other guys can put the pci on the ball, then those kinds of things are less important than other types of stats that the pitcher has.
All of this are generalization of course. Sometime things happen that don’t fit into this description perfectly. I see that as thats how baseball goes.
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@mathman5072_psn said in Which matters the most:
You brought up several issues, but I’ll address a few in the pitching category as I see it. Others can and I’m sure will tell me I’m wrong.
The pitching stats and energy 100% are in play in both online and offline play. As the game goes on, you can even notice the pci on your end getting bigger as the other player’s energy goes down.
With that, though, confidence is a huge factor for your pitcher and confidence can be gained and lost on individual pitches. So, let’s say you square up a ball on a pitch that the pitcher has high confidence in, your results are going to generally be less stellar than if you square up (or even got close to) a pitch that I have low confidence in. That’s why that down and away breaking ball will some times get pulled on an early swing and go 400 feet, but other times that feel the exact same will cause it to be a lazy popup to left field.
As for lefty/lefty matchups, the stats can affect the likelihood of hard hits and things like that. But, in general, if the other guys can put the pci on the ball, then those kinds of things are less important than other types of stats that the pitcher has.
All of this are generalization of course. Sometime things happen that don’t fit into this description perfectly. I see that as thats how baseball goes.
Very astute. That all sounds very logical and I will have to pay attention to the cause and effect. Cool.
Still don't understand the "getting a lead" irrelevance though. It's getting to the point I don't even lead off because I, personally, believe it makes no difference from, at least, a small sample set. But the danger of getting picked off while leading off is very high.
Especially if it's a couple bumps. Which I perceive a couple bumps being about 12 feet. Any 70+ rated speed/steal should be able to steal 2nd on any off-speed pitch with that sort of lead most every attempt. Unless it's Pudge in his prime and then you would have to stumble a little coming down the line.
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@showprodigy_psn said in Which matters the most:
@mathman5072_psn said in Which matters the most:
You brought up several issues, but I’ll address a few in the pitching category as I see it. Others can and I’m sure will tell me I’m wrong.
The pitching stats and energy 100% are in play in both online and offline play. As the game goes on, you can even notice the pci on your end getting bigger as the other player’s energy goes down.
With that, though, confidence is a huge factor for your pitcher and confidence can be gained and lost on individual pitches. So, let’s say you square up a ball on a pitch that the pitcher has high confidence in, your results are going to generally be less stellar than if you square up (or even got close to) a pitch that I have low confidence in. That’s why that down and away breaking ball will some times get pulled on an early swing and go 400 feet, but other times that feel the exact same will cause it to be a lazy popup to left field.
As for lefty/lefty matchups, the stats can affect the likelihood of hard hits and things like that. But, in general, if the other guys can put the pci on the ball, then those kinds of things are less important than other types of stats that the pitcher has.
All of this are generalization of course. Sometime things happen that don’t fit into this description perfectly. I see that as thats how baseball goes.
Very astute. That all sounds very logical and I will have to pay attention to the cause and effect. Cool.
Still don't understand the "getting a lead" irrelevance though. It's getting to the point I don't even lead off because I, personally, believe it makes no difference from, at least, a small sample set. But the danger of getting picked off while leading off is very high.
Especially if it's a couple bumps. Which I perceive a couple bumps being about 12 feet. Any 70+ rated speed/steal should be able to steal 2nd on any off-speed pitch with that sort of lead most every attempt. Unless it's Pudge in his prime and then you would have to stumble a little coming down the line.
I’m not sure about stealing. A couple years ago getting a secondary step with certain ratings guaranteed a stolen base. So, they programmed it differently to keep that from happening. But, it does cause weird things to happen sometimes like you described.
I think that if you hold the ball longer, it increases the chance of a pickoff and increases the likelihood of throwing the guy out at second. So, If someone takes the extra step I actually wait for my pitcher to get fully set before I pickoff or throw home. But, I’ve never seen anyone say that. So, it could just be something I tell myself.
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