@Simple-Jack3998_XBL said:

@Pergo_MLBTS I had to look at your profile and see the hours you've put in. 274 hours compared to my 117. Seems like you have a lot more free time than I do. It is hard when you don't have the hours to put in.

It's certainly easier the more time you are able to play, no doubt about that. But that's different from where this conversation initially started.

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

DemIsE4_XBL said:

@LIONED-33_XBL said:

@Simple-Jack3998_XBL thats simply not true, i need 2 cards for Beltran, i have 3 boys, work, and a wife. I find plenty of time to hang with the kids, baseball is just ending for them, chase the wife around the house, and do house work. Oh yeah and full time. if you know how to maximize your playing time, its not hard.

Just stop. Are you going to tell us that you pulled Shohei 3x and Judge 2x and have a 10x flawless banner too?

If you don't:
get great pulls
flip cards
are elite at the game
spend money

then the game sucks balls. It is extremely unrewarding. Matter of fact easily the most unrewarding game I've ever played. Ask anyone who doesn't do the above, they'll tell you the same thing.

If you haven't done any of those 4 and got Beltran I'll call you a liar.

Don't have Beltran yet, but I could if I wanted to. Sitting on 1.2 million stubs but going to wait a week or two until prices come down so I don't have to blow it all now.

Investing is pretty much same thing as flipping. You are not getting Beltran without one of those unless you play 8+ hrs a day. You can argue with me all you want but I think you are full of [censored] gaslighting people.

Guess it depends on your definition of investing. I don't buy extras of cards to invest, I just wait and sell whatever I earn naturally when the prices are highest, usually around when these big collections come out. To me that's not investing like most people talk about, since its just cards I get as rewards from playing.

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

DemIsE4_XBL said:

@LIONED-33_XBL said:

@Simple-Jack3998_XBL thats simply not true, i need 2 cards for Beltran, i have 3 boys, work, and a wife. I find plenty of time to hang with the kids, baseball is just ending for them, chase the wife around the house, and do house work. Oh yeah and full time. if you know how to maximize your playing time, its not hard.

Just stop. Are you going to tell us that you pulled Shohei 3x and Judge 2x and have a 10x flawless banner too?

If you don't:
get great pulls
flip cards
are elite at the game
spend money

then the game sucks balls. It is extremely unrewarding. Matter of fact easily the most unrewarding game I've ever played. Ask anyone who doesn't do the above, they'll tell you the same thing.

If you haven't done any of those 4 and got Beltran I'll call you a liar.

Don't have Beltran yet, but I could if I wanted to. Sitting on 1.2 million stubs but going to wait a week or two until prices come down so I don't have to blow it all now.

Investing is pretty much same thing as flipping. You are not getting Beltran without one of those unless you play 8+ hrs a day. You can argue with me all you want but I think you are full of [censored] gaslighting people.

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

DemIsE4_XBL said:

@LIONED-33_XBL said:

@Simple-Jack3998_XBL thats simply not true, i need 2 cards for Beltran, i have 3 boys, work, and a wife. I find plenty of time to hang with the kids, baseball is just ending for them, chase the wife around the house, and do house work. Oh yeah and full time. if you know how to maximize your playing time, its not hard.

Just stop. Are you going to tell us that you pulled Shohei 3x and Judge 2x and have a 10x flawless banner too?

If you don't:
get great pulls
flip cards
are elite at the game
spend money

then the game sucks balls. It is extremely unrewarding. Matter of fact easily the most unrewarding game I've ever played. Ask anyone who doesn't do the above, they'll tell you the same thing.

If you haven't done any of those 4 and got Beltran I'll call you a liar.

Don't have Beltran yet, but I could if I wanted to. Sitting on 1.2 million stubs but going to wait a week or two until prices come down so I don't have to blow it all now.

DemIsE4_XBL said:

@LIONED-33_XBL said:

@Simple-Jack3998_XBL thats simply not true, i need 2 cards for Beltran, i have 3 boys, work, and a wife. I find plenty of time to hang with the kids, baseball is just ending for them, chase the wife around the house, and do house work. Oh yeah and full time. if you know how to maximize your playing time, its not hard.

Just stop. Are you going to tell us that you pulled Shohei 3x and Judge 2x and have a 10x flawless banner too?

If you don't:
get great pulls
flip cards
are elite at the game
spend money

then the game sucks balls. It is extremely unrewarding. Matter of fact easily the most unrewarding game I've ever played. Ask anyone who doesn't do the above, they'll tell you the same thing.

If you haven't done any of those 4 and got Beltran I'll call you a liar.

@DemIsE4_XBL said:

@LIONED-33_XBL said:

@Simple-Jack3998_XBL thats simply not true, i need 2 cards for Beltran, i have 3 boys, work, and a wife. I find plenty of time to hang with the kids, baseball is just ending for them, chase the wife around the house, and do house work. Oh yeah and full time. if you know how to maximize your playing time, its not hard.

Just stop. Are you going to tell us that you pulled Shohei 3x and Judge 2x and have a 10x flawless banner too?

If you don't:
get great pulls
flip cards
are elite at the game
spend money

then the game sucks balls. It is extremely unrewarding. Matter of fact easily the most unrewarding game I've ever played. Ask anyone who doesn't do the above, they'll tell you the same thing.

I don't do any of the above and don't feel that way at all.

@LIONED-33_XBL said:

@Simple-Jack3998_XBL thats simply not true, i need 2 cards for Beltran, i have 3 boys, work, and a wife. I find plenty of time to hang with the kids, baseball is just ending for them, chase the wife around the house, and do house work. Oh yeah and full time. if you know how to maximize your playing time, its not hard.

Just stop. Are you going to tell us that you pulled Shohei 3x and Judge 2x and have a 10x flawless banner too?

If you don't:
get great pulls
flip cards
are elite at the game
spend money

then the game sucks balls. It is extremely unrewarding. Matter of fact easily the most unrewarding game I've ever played. Ask anyone who doesn't do the above, they'll tell you the same thing.

@Player99_MLBTS said:

@Sarge1387_PSN said:

@Player99_MLBTS said:

There's no pay walls in the game,

There is if you're not a top 5% player. You have no choice but to spend $ to get the stubs to buy them. But they're 100% optional, nobody's forcing anyone to buy them.

@Player99_MLBTS said:

the best cards just by playing.

*Some of. There are plenty that are locked behind packs, and those are usually the ones required for collection completion.

It's not P2W I agree...but definitely Pay to "Earn"

Thanks for correcting me. What i will say is that people think SDS is supposedly "forcing" microtransactions onto us. People really need a reality check.

I think SDS needs the reality check. Turning into Madden very quickly before our eyes might not be next year but they're well on their way.

@I23SAVAGE23I_XBL said:

I sold Simmons yesterday at 270k and he is 370k now. Not as bad as Leiter, but still hurts.

That's insane!!

And is evidence that SDS is alienating average fans who don't flip.