@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

You just likely don't notice them. The pitching one is very prevalent. I see this way more than the discord one.

I've been saying for a while this game is infested. WAY too many people dotting with pitchers.

That was my experience today. Saw a lot of pitch after pitch where the baseball just grazes the strike zone...

Definitely unfortunate if there’s that many cheaters in this game. Truly didn’t expect or realize it. I’ll pay more attention.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:
40k people in a cheating discord that is pretty expensive. Not a small number and likely not the only place to get that one. The other device you can get at Walmart and GameStop (another showing of greed over integrity) for what $100. EVERY online game is littered with cheats. Yet a game that most legit people (I say this because I think the majority of people above 900 are not legit) find difficult to pitch and hit doesn't have them? People just need some common sense. Seems to be quite lacking these days.

While that's a disgusting number, I heard that wasn't all for MLB The Show. I also don't take anything that Kyle guy says seriously because he's super toxic and just spews garbage.

TBH, I didn't know there was a $100 device you could plug in, but even still, I don't understand the point. Aren't people playing this game to have fun? What's the fun in not actually playing the game or cheating? I don't get it.

It's hard for me to think that most people over 900 are not legit. I probably would be a 900 player if I actually tried to get there, but I don't want to play on Legend, so I stop before that. And I'm old and don't consider myself to be amazing at the game.

Now I will say this. While I don't think, or at least haven't assumed, that I've played cheaters this year, I do have these weird games where someone kind of stinks at hitting, but they mostly shut me down. I usually just assume I'm slumping or something. Then I score a bunch of runs the next game and blame it on RNG, my old eyes, or whatever else.

I'm really not sure. It also might be me assuming that if you cheat, you're a horrible piece of garbage, and even though I've seen plenty of this community on X prove that point, I still hate to believe it while I'm actually in a H2H game.

Connections vary game to game. At least for me and I am on wired fiber internet. It has done this on PS5 and Series X. I truly don't know how people get constant connections in this game. I played ball at a high level so maybe I see things other people don't. There are seasons on this game I don't hit as good as I did in A ball which completely baffles me. Lately the pitches have looked like they are 120 mph and I wonder how on earth people are hitting .450 on legend. I can watch a streamer play legend and it looks like slow pitch softball compared to what I see on all star. Someone posted a response about it but even if I am just watching and not swinging, it looks way faster on my screen. Being a former high level baseball player, seeing and reading the pitches shouldn't be an issue but it is a lot of time. Being my age, I understand and have zero problem if my reactions are a little slow. That being said though the games I'm seeing lately I couldn't hit when I was 21.

All online games are infested. That is just a fact no one can dispute and it's been this way for a decade. Lucky for us, I never suspected people of cheating in this game until last year. People do it for different reasons. Make friends online by appearing better than they really are, tired of thinking they are getting cheated on, not being able to perform like they want in their favorite game, frustrate opponents, stick it to the game devs, etc.

@rubicante23_PSN said:

I recently ran into an Xbox player who got six really good home run swings in a row. A couple of them on very tough pitches (turning on perfectly located inside cutter).

There was also some "glitchiness" to the swing - like, it looked like the ball was past the bat, then glitch and its a home run. A few balls that looked like the fielder was too far away - and then glitch and its caught. Could just be server issues...and its possible he just got super hot for two innings, that can happen...but he did nothing the other seven innings, lol

Could have just saw your pitcher really good. Did he lose the game? There are certain things I look for. Dotting with low control pitchers, scoring when they need to (like if you would have taken a lead and he magically started doing it again), if it happens to multiple pitchers and you can also slide step which throws off the cheat device because of the different release point. These are for the discord one. As far as I know the other one doesn't do hitting, only pitching.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:
40k people in a cheating discord that is pretty expensive. Not a small number and likely not the only place to get that one. The other device you can get at Walmart and GameStop (another showing of greed over integrity) for what $100. EVERY online game is littered with cheats. Yet a game that most legit people (I say this because I think the majority of people above 900 are not legit) find difficult to pitch and hit doesn't have them? People just need some common sense. Seems to be quite lacking these days.

While that's a disgusting number, I heard that wasn't all for MLB The Show. I also don't take anything that Kyle guy says seriously because he's super toxic and just spews garbage.

TBH, I didn't know there was a $100 device you could plug in, but even still, I don't understand the point. Aren't people playing this game to have fun? What's the fun in not actually playing the game or cheating? I don't get it.

It's hard for me to think that most people over 900 are not legit. I probably would be a 900 player if I actually tried to get there, but I don't want to play on Legend, so I stop before that. And I'm old and don't consider myself to be amazing at the game.

Now I will say this. While I don't think, or at least haven't assumed, that I've played cheaters this year, I do have these weird games where someone kind of stinks at hitting, but they mostly shut me down. I usually just assume I'm slumping or something. Then I score a bunch of runs the next game and blame it on RNG, my old eyes, or whatever else.

I'm really not sure. It also might be me assuming that if you cheat, you're a horrible piece of garbage, and even though I've seen plenty of this community on X prove that point, I still hate to believe it while I'm actually in a H2H game.

There is Twitch, YouTube, etc….

Money is at stake and people are actually trying to cheat their way into views and recognition.

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:
40k people in a cheating discord that is pretty expensive. Not a small number and likely not the only place to get that one. The other device you can get at Walmart and GameStop (another showing of greed over integrity) for what $100. EVERY online game is littered with cheats. Yet a game that most legit people (I say this because I think the majority of people above 900 are not legit) find difficult to pitch and hit doesn't have them? People just need some common sense. Seems to be quite lacking these days.

While that's a disgusting number, I heard that wasn't all for MLB The Show. I also don't take anything that Kyle guy says seriously because he's super toxic and just spews garbage.

TBH, I didn't know there was a $100 device you could plug in, but even still, I don't understand the point. Aren't people playing this game to have fun? What's the fun in not actually playing the game or cheating? I don't get it.

It's hard for me to think that most people over 900 are not legit. I probably would be a 900 player if I actually tried to get there, but I don't want to play on Legend, so I stop before that. And I'm old and don't consider myself to be amazing at the game.

Now I will say this. While I don't think, or at least haven't assumed, that I've played cheaters this year, I do have these weird games where someone kind of stinks at hitting, but they mostly shut me down. I usually just assume I'm slumping or something. Then I score a bunch of runs the next game and blame it on RNG, my old eyes, or whatever else.

I'm really not sure. It also might be me assuming that if you cheat, you're a horrible piece of garbage, and even though I've seen plenty of this community on X prove that point, I still hate to believe it while I'm actually in a H2H game.

There was also some "glitchiness" to the swing - like, it looked like the ball was past the bat, then glitch and its a home run. A few balls that looked like the fielder was too far away - and then glitch and its caught. Could just be server issues...and its possible he just got super hot for two innings, that can happen...but he did nothing the other seven innings, lol

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@Sarge1387_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

I highly doubt anyone is running into them in the lower levels of Ranked

You'd be surprised. I've run into a bunch, not the majority of my opponenets by any stretch but a fair amount.

I mean I've noticed a crazy amount of perfect releases, but even then, I just assumed that's a talented pitcher. I probably have a perfect release on 75% of my pitches as well.

While people do dot me, I don't immediately think they're cheating. Not saying this isn't the case, but not once this year did I assume I was playing a cheater.

40k people in a cheating discord that is pretty expensive. Not a small number and likely not the only place to get that one. The other device you can get at Walmart and GameStop (another showing of greed over integrity) for what $100. EVERY online game is littered with cheats. Yet a game that most legit people (I say this because I think the majority of people above 900 are not legit) find difficult to pitch and hit doesn't have them? People just need some common sense. Seems to be quite lacking these days.

@Sarge1387_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

I highly doubt anyone is running into them in the lower levels of Ranked

You'd be surprised. I've run into a bunch, not the majority of my opponenets by any stretch but a fair amount.

I mean I've noticed a crazy amount of perfect releases, but even then, I just assumed that's a talented pitcher. I probably have a perfect release on 75% of my pitches as well.

While people do dot me, I don't immediately think they're cheating. Not saying this isn't the case, but not once this year did I assume I was playing a cheater.

@Onix_Savage22_PSN said:

I just got blooped to death

These are the only hits I ever really give up, unless I'm pipeshotting so people can get their stats.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

I highly doubt anyone is running into them in the lower levels of Ranked

You'd be surprised. I've run into a bunch, not the majority of my opponenets by any stretch but a fair amount.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

I’m also not the best player (850ish)

This puts you firmly in the top 10% of players, so strictly speaking you are one of the best players.

I do agree on your take about the bear-down pitching though. My counterpoint to that is that only works a couple times consecutively. When you see someone with JR Richard's Cityscape card constantly dotting(his PAR is literally half the zone), it's a major tell.

@DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTS said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

Lol the disingenuous king strikes again. People aren’t even trying anymore guys. No sweats even play online, no cheats are being used at all, just Pergo DOMINATING everyone in his path all weekend. Totally real and true.

Huh? I never said no sweats play online, never said no cheats are being used at all, and I definitely never said I dominate everyone. Quite the opposite actually. Not sure why you feel the need to make things up? Kinda weird and...disingenuous.

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

Lol the disingenuous king strikes again. People aren’t even trying anymore guys. No sweats even play online, no cheats are being used at all, just Pergo DOMINATING everyone in his path all weekend. Totally real and true.

Seriously...we all face people who can dot the corners like a master marksman. Just cause you perceive that people are cheating does not necessarily mean they are. It is a skill issue if nothing else. If you throw the same pitch pattern constantly you will be easily read and get walked all over. If you swing at every conceivable pitch you will NEVER hit anything cause it means you have the discipline of a toddler who would rather go right to dessert than eat the full meal.

What I'm trying to say is you need to learn patience. Otherwise you're going to be frustrated continuously.

Also...the casuals are not gone from the game yet. I'm one of them and honestly you grouping everyone who you think just plays to play into one lumped group tells me that you are part of that group too.

steps off soapbox

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

You just likely don't notice them. The pitching one is very prevalent. I see this way more than the discord one.

I've been saying for a while this game is infested. WAY too many people dotting with pitchers.

If I'm just not noticing them, shouldn't I be losing a lot more? I am not very good at this game, yet I still win online far more than I lose. Are the cheaters hiding it so well that they are losing on purpose? If so, that seems like an odd use of a cheat. Cheating but losing and not gaining much in the way of stats is pretty strange.

The pitching cheat device does not have a hitting cheat with it. Many people struggle with pitching in this game. This device eliminates that struggle. I can use pinpoint very well but with the PARS, I can't nip the edge all the time. I see this frequently.

If they were to ever ban these people you would see a noticeable difference in pitching.

@DannyDFurman_XBL said:

If anyone reading this is actually good at this game you’re a [censored]. Some of yall need to go outside and eat some salad instead of playing video games. Ya you can find your pitches well but your saturated fat filled bodies will never cease to exist

Grow up. Take some writing courses. Maybe some anger management.

@DannyDFurman_XBL said:

If anyone reading this is actually good at this game you’re a [censored]. Some of yall need to go outside and eat some salad instead of playing video games. Ya you can find your pitches well but your saturated fat filled bodies will never cease to exist

Why do they have to go outside to eat salad?

They dont have salads inside?

@I23SAVAGE23I_XBL said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

You just likely don't notice them. The pitching one is very prevalent. I see this way more than the discord one.

I've been saying for a while this game is infested. WAY too many people dotting with pitchers.

If I'm just not noticing them, shouldn't I be losing a lot more? I am not very good at this game, yet I still win online far more than I lose. Are the cheaters hiding it so well that they are losing on purpose? If so, that seems like an odd use of a cheat. Cheating but losing and not gaining much in the way of stats is pretty strange.

Idk, I still am beating them, but it seems impossible to be clipping at such a high rate with the PARs.

Just seems really weird to cheat just so you can lose and not rack up many stats.

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

You just likely don't notice them. The pitching one is very prevalent. I see this way more than the discord one.

I've been saying for a while this game is infested. WAY too many people dotting with pitchers.

If I'm just not noticing them, shouldn't I be losing a lot more? I am not very good at this game, yet I still win online far more than I lose. Are the cheaters hiding it so well that they are losing on purpose? If so, that seems like an odd use of a cheat. Cheating but losing and not gaining much in the way of stats is pretty strange.

Idk, I still am beating them, but it seems impossible to be clipping at such a high rate with the PARs.

@D_e_m_I_s_E_MLBTS said:

@Pergo_MLBTS said:

Been playing online a lot this weekend for the challenges, haven't run in to any sweats or cheaters. Have had some really fun games.

You just likely don't notice them. The pitching one is very prevalent. I see this way more than the discord one.

I've been saying for a while this game is infested. WAY too many people dotting with pitchers.

If I'm just not noticing them, shouldn't I be losing a lot more? I am not very good at this game, yet I still win online far more than I lose. Are the cheaters hiding it so well that they are losing on purpose? If so, that seems like an odd use of a cheat. Cheating but losing and not gaining much in the way of stats is pretty strange.

I’m guessing once they figure out how to use that device on 2k it’s going to be easy on other games.

With good control pitchers - perfect tracing and release can dot pitches. There’s also bear down pitching which shrinks the PARS.

I’m also not the best player (850ish) and frankly dot quite a good deal of pitches myself.

But in events like moonshot I also hang my fair share as well.