@Rhyno1986_XBL said:

Hey Hader and King like I've said give unfair advantage.

I am going to go out on a limb here, even though I do not play competitively, and say that using Hader and King is not an exploit.

Is the issue with these cards a bug? Maybe, but using them is not an exploit.

Everybody has access to them. Everyone can use them. You can't use them in a way that was not intended by SDS, meaning you can't pitch them more often or have them pitch longer without running out of Stamina.

If everyone can obtain these cards and everyone who has them is operating under the same conditions for pitchers then using them does not provide any unfair advantage.

So just because we don't like how they operate and choose not to use them does not mean that those using them are exploiting.

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:
Yes they did lol. If it didn't hurt their bottom line they wouldn't care. Just like everything else in this game that is broken. Hence why historically if you look the only time they fix something is when it has to do with stubs and packs lol. It's okay I'm sure you are just sad you're wrong

You keep saying “bottom line” like it’s a gotcha. The exploit hurt the game economy and gave cheaters an unfair advantage. That impacts SDS and every legit player. Both things can be true.

Hey Hader and King like I've said give unfair advantage. I get it you just hate to admit trueths, that's fine. I never once said "it was a bad thing" because yeah it was. I've stated that it literally is NO different in the blunt face of ToS as EVERYTHING else and I don't feel bad when SDS has continued to ignore everything else. This years gameplay has been atrocious and they ignore it and say things like oh it's working as intended and even though we stated we removed it we left it in because it is more "realistic".

You’re not reading what I’ve been saying or you’re just so stuck in your ways that it’s not worth it. This will be my last reply to you.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:
Yes they did lol. If it didn't hurt their bottom line they wouldn't care. Just like everything else in this game that is broken. Hence why historically if you look the only time they fix something is when it has to do with stubs and packs lol. It's okay I'm sure you are just sad you're wrong

You keep saying “bottom line” like it’s a gotcha. The exploit hurt the game economy and gave cheaters an unfair advantage. That impacts SDS and every legit player. Both things can be true.

Hey Hader and King like I've said give unfair advantage. I get it you just hate to admit trueths, that's fine. I never once said "it was a bad thing" because yeah it was. I've stated that it literally is NO different in the blunt face of ToS as EVERYTHING else and I don't feel bad when SDS has continued to ignore everything else. This years gameplay has been atrocious and they ignore it and say things like oh it's working as intended and even though we stated we removed it we left it in because it is more "realistic".

Not that they would go through that trouble but they could.

@OleMiss2010_PSN said:

@Bridge-Piece_XBL I don't know anything about IP bans, but couldn't you use a VPN to get around that?

A VPN might get around a basic IP ban, but I doubt any serious enforcement would rely only on IP. Most bans can be tied to the account, console/platform, game profile, transaction history, or suspicious activity patterns.

So sure, someone could try to start over with a new account/VPN/etc., but that doesn’t mean SDS has no way to make it difficult or catch repeat abuse.

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:
Yes they did lol. If it didn't hurt their bottom line they wouldn't care. Just like everything else in this game that is broken. Hence why historically if you look the only time they fix something is when it has to do with stubs and packs lol. It's okay I'm sure you are just sad you're wrong

You keep saying “bottom line” like it’s a gotcha. The exploit hurt the game economy and gave cheaters an unfair advantage. That impacts SDS and every legit player. Both things can be true.

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@rubicante23_PSN said:

But also, its equally frustrating when people deny the glitch - its not a pretend thing or a false narrative, its real.

Yeah I'm not denying the glitch. I just personally don't feel like it impacts anything on AS or HOF. I've taken the glitched pitches + locations 450+ feet multiple times. Throw those guys to me ALL DAY vs. any of the newer cards that have been coming out.

I'm like an 850ish player, so not elite and don't play on legend. But if people didn't regularly say these guys were glitched, I wouldn't even know it. How many times have I perfectly squared up a meatball with collection Tulo and have it go 90 off the bat? It happens, it sucks, and I just don't think too much of it.

I'm also an old man, so perhaps I just care less about little things like this.

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:

Hard to feel bad about a company who is only trying to retaliate against players who did this because it hurt thier company bottom line.

I've already said this, but I'll say it again. This is a tired narrative. They didn't patch this because it hurt their bottom line. The low-lifers who exploited the glitch wouldn't think twice about buying stubs (or even have the ability to). But if the exploit wasn't patched immediately, those same people would have completely ruined the marketplace for everyone, and have already cheated their fellow community members by building super-teams through cheating. It's about the integrity of the marketplace and the player base. Not about their bottom line. You kids need to stop listening to certain content creators who think they know everything.

And if I am following correctly, this comment I made is going to cause a 3-step process to be followed:

1. call me a boot-licker
2. make the exact same comment that I can't say here
3. tell me the Hader/King "exploit" is worse than the pack glitch

So I'll save you the trouble. Yep, I do all of those things and you're all so right. You win.

Yes they did lol. If it didn't hurt their bottom line they wouldn't care. Just like everything else in this game that is broken. Hence why historically if you look the only time they fix something is when it has to do with stubs and packs lol. It's okay I'm sure you are just sad you're wrong

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:

@go4stros25_PSN said:

All the streamers are crying on twitter about how it isnt fair that sds is considering punishment for the people who did the exploit. Dont listen to them, they arent going anywhere. Sds could ban them and they would go out, buy a new game and console, and continue playing to game. Hell, they would probably make a video apologizing to sds and begging for forgiveness because not only is this game their job, its their only skill. If it werent for sds they would all have the get jobs like the rest of us. Haha I would love to see them go get a job in a blue collar shop with their whiney, holler than thou, "im so cute", attitude.

The exploiters broke tos, and yall promoted it. What does that have to do with Josh Hader? Does the game have problems? Yes, but i dont get to punch my neighbor in the face because HOA sucks.

ToS clearly states using ANY KNOW glitch to get an unfair advantage in gameplay. Using Hader and King is exactly this. As well as spamming low and away sliders to same handed hitters. This is why they say this and why it's the same. Most people use both these cards and know this so they are hypocrites and just think we'll every one is so it's okay. If you are against one and okay with people being punished, but not the other that is the problem. Because BOTH of these are SDS coding problems that SDS proved can be fixed, but only chose to fux what hurts THEIR bottom line.

I started a thread few weeks ago about SDS being hypocritical. I highlighted one event but their so many more examples out there.

I'm glad they doing something whatever it is, it's still a mystery. Maybe it's an imaginary ban but I digress, they are hypocritical.

They got to start.doimg what's best for the community as a whole not streamers, whales, cheats, exploiters.....bots.... it seems like I just eliminated 50 percent of their base.

@rubicante23_PSN said:

But also, its equally frustrating when people deny the glitch - its not a pretend thing or a false narrative, its real.

Yeah I'm not denying the glitch. I just personally don't feel like it impacts anything on AS or HOF. I've taken the glitched pitches + locations 450+ feet multiple times. Throw those guys to me ALL DAY vs. any of the newer cards that have been coming out.

I'm like an 850ish player, so not elite and don't play on legend. But if people didn't regularly say these guys were glitched, I wouldn't even know it. How many times have I perfectly squared up a meatball with collection Tulo and have it go 90 off the bat? It happens, it sucks, and I just don't think too much of it.

I'm also an old man, so perhaps I just care less about little things like this.

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:

Hard to feel bad about a company who is only trying to retaliate against players who did this because it hurt thier company bottom line.

I've already said this, but I'll say it again. This is a tired narrative. They didn't patch this because it hurt their bottom line. The low-lifers who exploited the glitch wouldn't think twice about buying stubs (or even have the ability to). But if the exploit wasn't patched immediately, those same people would have completely ruined the marketplace for everyone, and have already cheated their fellow community members by building super-teams through cheating. It's about the integrity of the marketplace and the player base. Not about their bottom line. You kids need to stop listening to certain content creators who think they know everything.

And if I am following correctly, this comment I made is going to cause a 3-step process to be followed:

1. call me a boot-licker
2. make the exact same comment that I can't say here
3. tell me the Hader/King "exploit" is worse than the pack glitch

So I'll save you the trouble. Yep, I do all of those things and you're all so right. You win.

But also, its equally frustrating when people deny the glitch - its not a pretend thing or a false narrative, its real.

Its puzzling that sds doesnt know how to fix these things. It feels less like malice and more like incompetence

@Joeflakes_XBL said:

@Rhyno1986_XBL

The same side sliders isn’t a glitch. They did explain that the pitcher should be rewarded for throwing that? Makes no sense to me but that’s how they’ve designed it so wouldn’t call it a glitch.

No they just straight up LIED about it. Exact quote 1 week before release "we have COMPLETELY REMOVED slider shrinkage" and once again it is coding. Just like Hader, King, the WBC packs. I would be all for everyone's hater tears if they fixed known issues and did what they said they would. Hard to feel bad about a company who is only trying to retaliate against players who did this because it hurt thier company bottom line.

@JenkinMeyer_PSN said:

@Rhyno1986_XBL

Did you know that Rhino horns are made of hair/keratin? Unless you’re a Ryne Sandberg

Then you’re made of fair bear hair

Did you know it's normally people who realize they are wrong and have no good argument to retort who resort in trying to insult people.

@Rhyno1986_XBL said:

@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS said:

@Rhyno1986_XBL go back to bed

Why? Because you know the hypocrisy of trueth just crushed you?

Same side sliders isn’t a glitch, they stated that already.

And SDS has never acknowledged Hader/King as glitches. This is just some tired narrative the community is using. Plus unless you’re a legend player, you’ll never even know they’re glitched. On All Star they’re both BP. On HOF - heck I’d rather face them than the new Miz card.

The same side sliders isn’t a glitch. They did explain that the pitcher should be rewarded for throwing that? Makes no sense to me but that’s how they’ve designed it so wouldn’t call it a glitch.

Did you know that Rhino horns are made of hair/keratin? Unless you’re a Ryne Sandberg

Then you’re made of fair bear hair

@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS said:

@Rhyno1986_XBL go back to bed

Why? Because you know the hypocrisy of trueth just crushed you?

@go4stros25_PSN said:

All the streamers are crying on twitter about how it isnt fair that sds is considering punishment for the people who did the exploit. Dont listen to them, they arent going anywhere. Sds could ban them and they would go out, buy a new game and console, and continue playing to game. Hell, they would probably make a video apologizing to sds and begging for forgiveness because not only is this game their job, its their only skill. If it werent for sds they would all have the get jobs like the rest of us. Haha I would love to see them go get a job in a blue collar shop with their whiney, holler than thou, "im so cute", attitude.

The exploiters broke tos, and yall promoted it. What does that have to do with Josh Hader? Does the game have problems? Yes, but i dont get to punch my neighbor in the face because HOA sucks.

ToS clearly states using ANY KNOW glitch to get an unfair advantage in gameplay. Using Hader and King is exactly this. As well as spamming low and away sliders to same handed hitters. This is why they say this and why it's the same. Most people use both these cards and know this so they are hypocrites and just think we'll every one is so it's okay. If you are against one and okay with people being punished, but not the other that is the problem. Because BOTH of these are SDS coding problems that SDS proved can be fixed, but only chose to fux what hurts THEIR bottom line.

Anyone who cheats doesn’t really care about a ban, they’re practically inviting it because they’re tired of the game

Gives a nice excuse to give the bird as they do other stuff

But their cheating directly affects those of us who do stick around and just want to play a good game of baseball

They’ve ruined the market, they ruin gameplay. They’re just, well, cheaters and trolls

@Bridge-Piece_XBL said:

@go4stros25_PSN said:

All the streamers are crying on twitter about how it isnt fair that sds is considering punishment for the people who did the exploit. Dont listen to them, they arent going anywhere. Sds could ban them and they would go out, buy a new game and console, and continue playing to game. Hell, they would probably make a video apologizing to sds and begging for forgiveness because not only is this game their job, its their only skill. If it werent for sds they would all have the get jobs like the rest of us. Haha I would love to see them go get a job in a blue collar shop with their whiney, holler than thou, "im so cute", attitude.

The exploiters broke tos, and yall promoted it. What does that have to do with Josh Hader? Does the game have problems? Yes, but i dont get to punch my neighbor in the face because HOA sucks.

Buying a new game / console won’t do anything for an IP ban

You gotta move to a different place if you want the IP ban to dissappear.

I used to watch a fair amount of Twitch but now I pretty much just use it for SDS streams. I start their live stream and then mute it so that I can get the packs and I then watch the actual stream on Youtube.

There are plenty of good content creators out there who act like adults but they usually are not the ones you hear about.

When it comes to watching others play games it is usually a game that I am interested in or thinking about playing but need more info on before I start. I will try and watch enough to get a good idea on whether or not I think I will enjoy the game.