<![CDATA[For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down?]]>I'm looking at you, Lindor.

I'm looking at the first roster update from 2025, and there were a handful of big upgrades (3 or more, plus Judge)

Judge - 90 to 92
Tatis - 88 to 92
Miller - 86 to 89

I see a few big downgrades:

Clase - 86 to 82. He was probably throwing all of his first pitches in the dirt 🤕
Semien - 85 to 82

Is it possible for Lindor to drop from a 90 to an 88 at this stage? Probably too early, right? He started 25 at an 88.

Raleigh has been pretty bad, but does have 7 HR's. Ketel is off to a rough start, as is JRam. Not sure if it's too early for them to drop out of the 90-plus range yet.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/topic/82495/for-the-may-8th-update-do-any-big-ls-diamonds-go-downRSS for NodeWed, 10 Jun 2026 01:53:06 GMTMon, 04 May 2026 15:00:37 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 12:11:36 GMT]]>@Christuffer9917_PSN Murakami is in interesting one. His upgrade will really only come from power and they started it fairly high. Low gold seems right.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754230https://forums.theshow.com/post/754230Thu, 07 May 2026 12:11:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 04:44:26 GMT]]>@GoozeFn_PSN Yeah, I see that Pages is gonna go up now with that 3-dinger game. Also true, Max Muncy is kind of like a strikeout machine, but so is Shohei Ohtani, Aaron Judge, Munetaka Murakami, Kyle Schwarber, Cal Raleigh, etc. Half, if not at least most power hitters are strikeout machines; there's a reason why they aren't called "power contact hitters". (Sorry if this seems AI-generated, its cuz I use Grammarly.) I won't be surprised if Teoscar Hernandez goes down, dude is just an absolute strikeout machine. Can't believe Ryan Ward is being blocked by someone who strikes out so much and is a nuisiance to hitting and fielding overall. But I say Muncy will go up to 80 gold. Also Munetaka Murakami should become at least an 82 gold (hopefully im right), start duplicate buying the live series Murakami card now before bro potentially becomes a diamond.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754199https://forums.theshow.com/post/754199Thu, 07 May 2026 04:44:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 02:36:25 GMT]]>@Ditka06_MLBTS

I don’t know what else they upgrade to get him to a 92, he’s near maxed already. Maybe better control and clutch, but as someone else said, he’s a reliever, 17 innings is a tough sample size to make that big a jump. If he continues, which no one doubts, he may get to 92 mid-year.

I think Edwin hit the highest reliever mark in 2022 at 94, but that wasn’t till the end of the year if I remember correctly.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754185https://forums.theshow.com/post/754185Thu, 07 May 2026 02:36:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 02:12:30 GMT]]>@Ditka06_MLBTS Yes, but he’s also a reliever. Pitchers and especially relievers don’t seem to go as high. I think he’ll go up, but probably not what you’d think. People are holding him expecting him to go up too.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754182https://forums.theshow.com/post/754182Thu, 07 May 2026 02:12:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 00:15:06 GMT]]>@GoozeFn_PSN if he goes to a 92 you dont think his price will go up? Why are ohtani and judge so high at 92s. Is it because alot of people have pulled him already because he is an 89? Meaning his card is already out there and alot of people already have him? Couldnt we say the same for the low golds going up?

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754173https://forums.theshow.com/post/754173Thu, 07 May 2026 00:15:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 00:11:58 GMT]]>@GoozeFn_PSN

He should be regardless of the game.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754172https://forums.theshow.com/post/754172Thu, 07 May 2026 00:11:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Thu, 07 May 2026 00:10:42 GMT]]>Yordon and mason miller will go up to the 90+ barrier .Lindor and Jose Ramirez will go down. It’s kind of an MLB The Show tradition that Lindor and JRam drop below 90 then trickle back up before the end of the season.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754171https://forums.theshow.com/post/754171Thu, 07 May 2026 00:10:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 22:51:22 GMT]]>@Ditka06_MLBTS I think he could go even higher than 92, but wouldn’t be surprised if price doesn’t get that high.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754163https://forums.theshow.com/post/754163Wed, 06 May 2026 22:51:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 22:14:25 GMT]]>Miller up to a 92 watch. 80k price tag soon

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754158https://forums.theshow.com/post/754158Wed, 06 May 2026 22:14:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 21:49:11 GMT]]>@rubicante23_PSN only factors in when convenient for sds no way he moves.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754151https://forums.theshow.com/post/754151Wed, 06 May 2026 21:49:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 21:34:15 GMT]]>@Teak2112_MLBTS If it isn’t, it should be.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754147https://forums.theshow.com/post/754147Wed, 06 May 2026 21:34:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 21:34:01 GMT]]>With discipline gone is it possible BB rate ends up in vision somehow now? It would be weird having something so important not factor into an overall.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754146https://forums.theshow.com/post/754146Wed, 06 May 2026 21:34:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 20:57:37 GMT]]>

@SavageSteve74_PSN said:

@Wilbs715_XBL

Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe this is what SDS uses for attributes:

Contact - BA & K%
Power - ISO & HR%
Vision - BB% & K%

So for Pages, his BA is way up, but so is his BABIP (.382 way above league average and way over last years number so people assume he’ll regress to the mean). He may get a bump up in contact but his K% is also up so it won’t be much.

His ISO is flat at .187 and his HR% is actually down.

Walks are up so maybe an uptick to vision but again, his K% is also up.

I think they’ll bump him up 1 possibly 2 but I don’t see him going diamond.

Muncy is intriguing, his BA is waaay up and his BABIP at .316 is slightly above league avg (.295). His BB% and K% are a touch worse than last year but not far off from career avg. His ISO and HR% are up so his power is off to a better start. He’s not going diamond but could be upgraded to a low gold.

Take my analysis with a grain of salt, especially since SDS does wonky things sometimes with upgrades that surprise even the most veteran attribute investors.

Contact is avg vs L, vs R
Power is iso vs L, vs R
Vision is K%
They don't use K rate for contact, hr rate for power or walk rate for vision.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754132https://forums.theshow.com/post/754132Wed, 06 May 2026 20:57:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 20:51:11 GMT]]>Pages 3HR game might get him to diamond now.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754129https://forums.theshow.com/post/754129Wed, 06 May 2026 20:51:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 20:30:52 GMT]]>@DeleteyourTTVBTW_MLBTS Aaron judge won a silver slugger and rookie of the year, was voted an all star, and finished 2nd in mvp voting. He is also a Yankees. He also kept his pace basically all year. Doesn’t Walker won’t get it but judge is one of the exception then the rule.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754120https://forums.theshow.com/post/754120Wed, 06 May 2026 20:30:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 20:20:53 GMT]]>@ApolloZ_99_MLBTS I would argue that he wasn’t an elite hitter from 23-25. He has turned it back up this year, but I just don’t see where the upgrade comes from. Frankly, his stats are already higher than his stats over the last 3 years deserve. I get why they continue to prop him up. I just don’t see how they can justify giving him an upgrade.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754115https://forums.theshow.com/post/754115Wed, 06 May 2026 20:20:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 20:05:36 GMT]]>@Dolenz_PSN Judge went from Common to Diamond in less than half a year and every week people said he wouldn’t even go gold. It’s always possible lol.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754112https://forums.theshow.com/post/754112Wed, 06 May 2026 20:05:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 19:47:14 GMT]]>@GoozeFn_PSN trout should never be drop lower than an 85. He is still one of the elite hitters in the lg. the only thing that holds him back from being higher is being injured all the time affecting his defense and his base running.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754108https://forums.theshow.com/post/754108Wed, 06 May 2026 19:47:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 19:26:23 GMT]]>Does Skubal move since he's out for 3 months - or does that not factor in?

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754097https://forums.theshow.com/post/754097Wed, 06 May 2026 19:26:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 18:33:26 GMT]]>@LIONED-33_XBL

Lindor is on IL, I don’t think they’ve ever updated someone while they were on IL.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754091https://forums.theshow.com/post/754091Wed, 06 May 2026 18:33:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 18:14:44 GMT]]>@GoozeFn_PSN because they love trout. He's still one of the biggest names in the game. He'll go up.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754087https://forums.theshow.com/post/754087Wed, 06 May 2026 18:14:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 18:13:40 GMT]]>Onix_Savage22_PSN maybe soto stays no way lindor stays 90

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754086https://forums.theshow.com/post/754086Wed, 06 May 2026 18:13:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 18:13:19 GMT]]>

@Sarge1387_PSN said:

@GoozeFn_PSN said:

@Wilbs715_XBL I wasn’t saying Pages would be diamond. Just saying he’s going up. 84 seems right. Also didn’t say Muncy wasn’t go up. Simply saying there’s zero chance he’s going diamond.

I think he hits 84 tops

I agree, I think both go up.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754085https://forums.theshow.com/post/754085Wed, 06 May 2026 18:13:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to For the May 8th update, do any "big" LS diamonds go down? on Wed, 06 May 2026 18:08:50 GMT]]>@Dolenz_PSN Several commons got double digit increases in the first roster update last year. Soderstrom is a good example similar to Walker’s situation. He got +10 from 65. Walker has been significantly better than what he did. Okert got +13. So did Shane Smith.

]]>https://forums.theshow.com/post/754083https://forums.theshow.com/post/754083Wed, 06 May 2026 18:08:50 GMT